Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

jim laid this down on his screen :
John Wrote in message:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Ms polymer e.g.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ts/d180/Grab+A
dhesive/sd3199/Stixall+Adhesive+%26+Sealant+290ml/p69243

Also in black & clear

Thanks Jim but that's a bit much for the tiny bit I'll need. Was hoping
for something in a 'modelling' size tube maybe ^^

John Wrote in message:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Ms polymer e.g.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ts/d180/Grab+A
dhesive/sd3199/Stixall+Adhesive+%26+Sealant+290ml/p69243

Also in black & clear

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On 14/08/2016 15:15, John wrote:

Ms polymer e.g.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ts/d180/Grab+A
dhesive/sd3199/Stixall+Adhesive+%26+Sealant+290ml/p69243

Also in black & clear

Thanks Jim but that's a bit much for the tiny bit I'll need. Was hoping
for something in a 'modelling' size tube maybe ^^

Well yeah but you'll be able to put it back every time it falls off for
years.

Bill

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

Gorilla glue might do it, clean all of the old stuff off first with
something like isopropyl alcohol. You need a very thin layer, or a tiny
drop near the centre, since it foams slightly and you would need to
hold the switch in place while it sets with a bit of tape. I've got a
double wall socket stuck to the tiles in the kitchen with that stuff.
Try some test sticking first so that you don't end up with a foamy
brown ring around the switch.

The 60ml one would be plenty and it doesn't keep that long after
opening;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111091991826

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Bill Wright pretended :
On 14/08/2016 15:15, John wrote:

Ms polymer e.g.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ts/d180/Grab+A
dhesive/sd3199/Stixall+Adhesive+%26+Sealant+290ml/p69243

Also in black & clear

Thanks Jim but that's a bit much for the tiny bit I'll need. Was hoping
for something in a 'modelling' size tube maybe ^^

Well yeah but you'll be able to put it back every time it falls off for
years.

Bill

lol lol lol

On 14/08/16 15:03, John wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on.
You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

Evostik contact.

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diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

On 8/14/2016 3:15 PM, John wrote:
jim laid this down on his screen :
John Wrote in message:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need
to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it
all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've
ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Ms polymer e.g.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ts/d180/Grab+A
dhesive/sd3199/Stixall+Adhesive+%26+Sealant+290ml/p69243

Also in black & clear

Thanks Jim but that's a bit much for the tiny bit I'll need. Was hoping
for something in a 'modelling' size tube maybe ^^

I think I would try a double sided foam sticky pad, cut to fit.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SELLOTAPE-...AOSwKtlWsn2 n

Car interiors get warm, so they might not last forever. Car rear view
mirror stickers are a stronger version and will withstand solar heating.

Or (since I have some), a little blob of Shoe Goo, bearing in mind that
this would be a near permanent solution.

jim was thinking very hard :
John Wrote in message:
jim laid this down on his screen :
John Wrote in message:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Ms polymer e.g.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ts/d180/Grab+A
dhesive/sd3199/Stixall+Adhesive+%26+Sealant+290ml/p69243

Also in black & clear

Thanks Jim but that's a bit much for the tiny bit I'll need. Was hoping
for something in a 'modelling' size tube maybe ^^


Put the cap on after you've used a bit.

What else can you see as easily available for that
price anyway?

Did you look what I'm wanting it for? The whole switch is only 20mm
square and as the wires come in to the middle I can only put the glue
around the edges, so a few drops is all I need. Someone suggested Evo
Stick contact and that's in a small tube with a much more manageable
nozzle more suited to this application for £2.09. Thanks for your input
though mate, it is appreciated.

John Wrote in message:
jim laid this down on his screen :
John Wrote in message:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Ms polymer e.g.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ts/d180/Grab+A
dhesive/sd3199/Stixall+Adhesive+%26+Sealant+290ml/p69243

Also in black & clear

Thanks Jim but that's a bit much for the tiny bit I'll need. Was hoping
for something in a 'modelling' size tube maybe ^^


Put the cap on after you've used a bit.

What else can you see as easily available for that price anyway?

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On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.




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John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

http://www.screwfix.com/p/eurocel-do...mm-x-25m/93189

http://tinyurl.com/gu27spv

Chris

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After serious thinking Chris Whelan wrote :
John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

http://www.screwfix.com/p/eurocel-do...mm-x-25m/93189

http://tinyurl.com/gu27spv

Chris

A good idea Chris and I appreciate the suggestion but I'm a clumsy sod
at the best of times and have fat, sausage-like fingers. If you look at
the photo, that's the only wiggle room I've got. I can't pull the
switch forward so would have to cut to size then cut a slit to get over
the wires, remove the backing and try to stick to the switch first,
before removing second backing to stick to dash. It just ain't gonna
happen :')

John used his keyboard to write :
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to put it
on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all dribble down. I
have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car. They're
self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on. You can see
what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

Thanks folks, I'm going to try TNP's suggestion of Evostik contact as
that should be easy enough to get on the required surfaces.

Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need
to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it
all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've
ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.
Beware of the Pound Shop stuff. Sometimes it sets like steel, sometimes like
cheese.

I would suggest 2 rolls of adhesive velco strip. One roll hooks , one roll loops. se as and when required. I find a tape width of around 30mm is ideal for lots of different jobs.

On Sunday, 14 August 2016 15:02:58 UTC+1, John wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

Gorilla.
Or gorilla tape.
Wonderful stuff.
Stuff needs clamping, the glue expands to fill gaps.
Read instruction, goes off with moisture.

John Wrote in message:
jim was thinking very hard :
John Wrote in message:
jim laid this down on his screen :
John Wrote in message:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Ms polymer e.g.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ts/d180/Grab+A
dhesive/sd3199/Stixall+Adhesive+%26+Sealant+290ml/p69243

Also in black & clear

Thanks Jim but that's a bit much for the tiny bit I'll need. Was hoping
for something in a 'modelling' size tube maybe ^^


Put the cap on after you've used a bit.

What else can you see as easily available for that
price anyway?

Did you look what I'm wanting it for? The whole switch is only 20mm
square and as the wires come in to the middle I can only put the glue
around the edges, so a few drops is all I need. Someone suggested Evo
Stick contact and that's in a small tube with a much more manageable
nozzle more suited to this application for £2.09. Thanks for your input
though mate, it is appreciated.


Hope it works out for you "mate"....
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John Wrote in message:
John used his keyboard to write :
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to put it
on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all dribble down. I
have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car. They're
self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on. You can see
what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

Thanks folks, I'm going to try TNP's suggestion of Evostik contact as
that should be easy enough to get on the required surfaces.


Which is a viscous liquid, which you said you didnt
want, and is
not suitable for use on several plastics...

Good luck with that.

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On 14/08/2016 16:03, John wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on.
You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

I bought this glue at the London Model Engineering Exhibition, and it's
absolutely amazing. It's basically a cyanoacrylate, but more viscous.
Sticks most things to most things, and helps me uphold my reputation for
"Grandpa fix it":
http://www.hafixs.co.uk/

--
Peter

On 14/08/16 16:20, Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.



....will not adhere to anything remotely plastic.





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twenty-first centurys developed world went into hysterical panic over a
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

On 14/08/16 17:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need
to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it
all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've
ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.

Is dangerously wrong.

Epoxies are almost always the worst glues for any amateur bonding.

And are useless on olefins like polythene, or some more flexible
plastics like vinyls.

They require extremely accurate measuring and very comprehensive mixing
and ideally a fair amount of heat to set to their best strength.





Beware of the Pound Shop stuff. Sometimes it sets like steel, sometimes like
cheese.




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All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
fully understood.

On 14/08/16 17:34, jim wrote:
John Wrote in message:
John used his keyboard to write :
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to put it
on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all dribble down. I
have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car. They're
self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on. You can see
what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

Thanks folks, I'm going to try TNP's suggestion of Evostik contact as
that should be easy enough to get on the required surfaces.


Which is a viscous liquid, which you said you didnt
want, and is
not suitable for use on several plastics...


The reason its 'not suitable for use '; is that it attacks some plastics
but that actaully makes a better bond, and it doesn't stay a viacous
liquid for very long.


Good luck with that.



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all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
fully understood.

In article ,
Ramsman wrote:
On 14/08/2016 16:03, John wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on.
You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

I bought this glue at the London Model Engineering Exhibition, and it's
absolutely amazing. It's basically a cyanoacrylate, but more viscous.
Sticks most things to most things, and helps me uphold my reputation for
"Grandpa fix it":
http://www.hafixs.co.uk/

I have that reputation, too - especially as there's no daddy in evidence.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 18:47:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 14/08/16 16:20, Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.



...will not adhere to anything remotely plastic.



Car body filler?
ducks


--

Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On 14/08/16 19:24, Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 18:47:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 14/08/16 16:20, Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.



...will not adhere to anything remotely plastic.



Car body filler?

wont adhere to many plastics either...:-(


ducks




--
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/08/16 17:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need
to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it
all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing
I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the
car. They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't
stay stuck on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.

Is dangerously wrong.

Epoxies are almost always the worst glues for any amateur bonding.

And are useless on olefins like polythene, or some more flexible
plastics like vinyls.

Wrong.

They require extremely accurate measuring and very comprehensive
mixing and ideally a fair amount of heat to set to their best
strength.
Been using Araldite for many years with no problems.
As usual you are talking ********




Beware of the Pound Shop stuff. Sometimes it sets like steel,
sometimes like cheese.

On 14/08/16 19:39, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/08/16 17:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need
to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it
all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing
I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the
car. They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't
stay stuck on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.

Is dangerously wrong.

Epoxies are almost always the worst glues for any amateur bonding.

And are useless on olefins like polythene, or some more flexible
plastics like vinyls.

Wrong.

They require extremely accurate measuring and very comprehensive
mixing and ideally a fair amount of heat to set to their best
strength.
Been using Araldite for many years with no problems.

Been using it and other epoxies since around 1963, with many many problems.


As usual you are talking ********

Nope. I'm talking truth.

It's great to fix china, if you use heat to set it.

Its not bad to fix metal to metal, given heat, but usually car body
filler does a better job for an amateur.

Its quite useful for brickwork or rebder applications too. It sticks to
stone.



Its almost useless as a wood glue, especially on more porous wood,
because it doesn't penetrate. It always simply tears the surface off the
wood off. PVA is in fact better overall. And way cheaper.


It's best mixed on polythene sheet, because it doesn't stick to
polythene and can be peeled off when set.

IN every case solvent weld or 'plastic cement' is better on plastic, and
solvent based contact (rubber solution, evostik) are more reliable on
non gap filling plastic to plastic joints.

IN order to fully set epoxy it must be mixed in an exact ratio,
Generally 50:50 for 'hobby' formulations. Failure to do this results in
a rubbery matrix of unset epoxy. Additionally poor mixing will result in
the same effect. Heating it helps it to mix better and also makes it set
far faster and far harder, and less liable to fail under heat
subsequently. E.g. repaired china put through a dishwasher.

This is all knowledge gained by reading up about it and using it
exhaustively for over 50 years.








Beware of the Pound Shop stuff. Sometimes it sets like steel,
sometimes like cheese.




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"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/08/16 19:39, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/08/16 17:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I
need to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to
have it all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the
only thing I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the
car. They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't
stay stuck on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.

Is dangerously wrong.

Epoxies are almost always the worst glues for any amateur bonding.

And are useless on olefins like polythene, or some more flexible
plastics like vinyls.

Wrong.

They require extremely accurate measuring and very comprehensive
mixing and ideally a fair amount of heat to set to their best
strength.

They require reasonably accurate measuring which is not difficult to do.
As for heat, this is a switch in a car, he is not gluing the wings on a
jumbo jet.



Been using Araldite for many years with no problems.

Been using it and other epoxies since around 1963, with many many
problems.

Oh dear.


As usual you are talking ********

Nope. I'm talking truth.

It's a Switch in a car!

It's great to fix china, if you use heat to set it.

No need for heat, just time to let it cure.

Its not bad to fix metal to metal, given heat, but usually car body
filler does a better job for an amateur.

You would use kipper to fix a switch in a car?
Oh, you are baiting me.

Its quite useful for brickwork or rebder applications too. It sticks
to stone.

Dunno.



Its almost useless as a wood glue, especially on more porous wood,
because it doesn't penetrate. It always simply tears the surface off
the wood off. PVA is in fact better overall. And way cheaper.

I've used it on wood with no problems.

It's best mixed on polythene sheet, because it doesn't stick to
polythene and can be peeled off when set.

I've always used a bit of cardboard.

IN every case solvent weld or 'plastic cement' is better on plastic,
and solvent based contact (rubber solution, evostik) are more
reliable on non gap filling plastic to plastic joints.

IN order to fully set epoxy it must be mixed in an exact ratio,
Generally 50:50 for 'hobby' formulations. Failure to do this results
in a rubbery matrix of unset epoxy. Additionally poor mixing will result
in the same effect. Heating it helps it to mix better and also makes
it set far faster and far harder, and less liable to fail under heat
subsequently. E.g. repaired china put through a dishwasher.

He wants to glue a switch to his dashboard, that is all he wants to do.

This is all knowledge gained by reading up about it and using it
exhaustively for over 50 years.

I first used it 40 years ago. It has never failed me.








Beware of the Pound Shop stuff. Sometimes it sets like steel,
sometimes like cheese.

In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 14/08/16 19:39, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/08/16 17:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need
to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it
all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing
I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the
car. They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay
stuck on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.

Is dangerously wrong.

Epoxies are almost always the worst glues for any amateur bonding.

And are useless on olefins like polythene, or some more flexible
plastics like vinyls.

Wrong.

They require extremely accurate measuring and very comprehensive
mixing and ideally a fair amount of heat to set to their best strength.
Been using Araldite for many years with no problems.

Been using it and other epoxies since around 1963, with many many
problems.

around 1963, a colleague rebuillt the teeth on his A35 gearbox using
Araldite!

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 14/08/16 17:34, jim wrote:
John Wrote in message:
John used his keyboard to write :
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to put it
on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all dribble down. I
have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car. They're
self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on. You can see
what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

Thanks folks, I'm going to try TNP's suggestion of Evostik contact as
that should be easy enough to get on the required surfaces.


Which is a viscous liquid, which you said you didnt
want, and is
not suitable for use on several plastics...


The reason its 'not suitable for use '; is that it attacks some plastics
but that actaully makes a better bond, and it doesn't stay a viacous
liquid for very long.


You'd think they'd know that and would use it as a sales point
rather than something they feel the need to cover themselves
explicitly for....

YMMV

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Ramsman Wrote in message:
On 14/08/2016 16:03, John wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on.
You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

I bought this glue at the London Model Engineering Exhibition, and it's
absolutely amazing. It's basically a cyanoacrylate, but more viscous.
Sticks most things to most things, and helps me uphold my reputation for
"Grandpa fix it":
http://www.hafixs.co.uk/


Mmm informative.... ;-)

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Jim K


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charles Wrote in message:
In article ,
Ramsman wrote:
On 14/08/2016 16:03, John wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck on.
You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

I bought this glue at the London Model Engineering Exhibition, and it's
absolutely amazing. It's basically a cyanoacrylate, but more viscous.
Sticks most things to most things, and helps me uphold my reputation for
"Grandpa fix it":
http://www.hafixs.co.uk/

I have that reputation, too - especially as there's no daddy in evidence.


You alpha male you.....
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:02:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 14/08/16 19:39, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/08/16 17:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need
to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it
all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing
I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the
car. They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't
stay stuck on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.

Is dangerously wrong.

Epoxies are almost always the worst glues for any amateur bonding.

And are useless on olefins like polythene, or some more flexible
plastics like vinyls.

Wrong.

They require extremely accurate measuring and very comprehensive
mixing and ideally a fair amount of heat to set to their best
strength.
Been using Araldite for many years with no problems.

Been using it and other epoxies since around 1963, with many many problems.


As usual you are talking ********

Nope. I'm talking truth.

It's great to fix china, if you use heat to set it.

Its not bad to fix metal to metal, given heat, but usually car body
filler does a better job for an amateur.

Its quite useful for brickwork or rebder applications too. It sticks to
stone.



Its almost useless as a wood glue, especially on more porous wood,
because it doesn't penetrate. It always simply tears the surface off the
wood off. PVA is in fact better overall. And way cheaper.


It's best mixed on polythene sheet, because it doesn't stick to
polythene and can be peeled off when set.

IN every case solvent weld or 'plastic cement' is better on plastic, and
solvent based contact (rubber solution, evostik) are more reliable on
non gap filling plastic to plastic joints.

IN order to fully set epoxy it must be mixed in an exact ratio,
Generally 50:50 for 'hobby' formulations. Failure to do this results in
a rubbery matrix of unset epoxy. Additionally poor mixing will result in
the same effect. Heating it helps it to mix better and also makes it set
far faster and far harder, and less liable to fail under heat
subsequently. E.g. repaired china put through a dishwasher.

This is all knowledge gained by reading up about it and using it
exhaustively for over 50 years.

My favourite glue is contact adhesive. Put glue on both parts, wait 10 minutes, push together and it already has enough strength to hold the parts in place.

--
Billy bashed bandy Brian's ******** because bandy Brian broke Billy's big brown blowup boy before breakfast began.
Bigtits Beryl bit Barry's boner because Barry banged black Barbara's bare bruised bottom beside Brighton beach's battered blue bandstand.

James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:02:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 14/08/16 19:39, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/08/16 17:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I
need to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want
to have it all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the
only thing I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the
car. They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't
stay stuck on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.

Is dangerously wrong.

Epoxies are almost always the worst glues for any amateur bonding.

And are useless on olefins like polythene, or some more flexible
plastics like vinyls.

Wrong.

They require extremely accurate measuring and very comprehensive
mixing and ideally a fair amount of heat to set to their best
strength.
Been using Araldite for many years with no problems.

Been using it and other epoxies since around 1963, with many many
problems.
As usual you are talking ********

Nope. I'm talking truth.

It's great to fix china, if you use heat to set it.

Its not bad to fix metal to metal, given heat, but usually car body
filler does a better job for an amateur.

Its quite useful for brickwork or rebder applications too. It sticks
to stone.



Its almost useless as a wood glue, especially on more porous wood,
because it doesn't penetrate. It always simply tears the surface off
the wood off. PVA is in fact better overall. And way cheaper.


It's best mixed on polythene sheet, because it doesn't stick to
polythene and can be peeled off when set.

IN every case solvent weld or 'plastic cement' is better on plastic,
and solvent based contact (rubber solution, evostik) are more
reliable on non gap filling plastic to plastic joints.

IN order to fully set epoxy it must be mixed in an exact ratio,
Generally 50:50 for 'hobby' formulations. Failure to do this results
in a rubbery matrix of unset epoxy. Additionally poor mixing will
result in the same effect. Heating it helps it to mix better and
also makes it set far faster and far harder, and less liable to fail
under heat subsequently. E.g. repaired china put through a
dishwasher. This is all knowledge gained by reading up about it and using
it
exhaustively for over 50 years.

My favourite glue is contact adhesive. Put glue on both parts, wait
10 minutes, push together and it already has enough strength to hold
the parts in place.

"Wot's a joist?"
(Peter Hucker)

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:48:44 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:02:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 14/08/16 19:39, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/08/16 17:31, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:03:05 +0100, John wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I
need to put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want
to have it all dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the
only thing I've ever seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the
car. They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't
stay stuck on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg


Two-part epoxy like Araldite Rapid.

Is the correct answer.

Is dangerously wrong.

Epoxies are almost always the worst glues for any amateur bonding.

And are useless on olefins like polythene, or some more flexible
plastics like vinyls.

Wrong.

They require extremely accurate measuring and very comprehensive
mixing and ideally a fair amount of heat to set to their best
strength.
Been using Araldite for many years with no problems.

Been using it and other epoxies since around 1963, with many many
problems.
As usual you are talking ********

Nope. I'm talking truth.

It's great to fix china, if you use heat to set it.

Its not bad to fix metal to metal, given heat, but usually car body
filler does a better job for an amateur.

Its quite useful for brickwork or rebder applications too. It sticks
to stone.



Its almost useless as a wood glue, especially on more porous wood,
because it doesn't penetrate. It always simply tears the surface off
the wood off. PVA is in fact better overall. And way cheaper.


It's best mixed on polythene sheet, because it doesn't stick to
polythene and can be peeled off when set.

IN every case solvent weld or 'plastic cement' is better on plastic,
and solvent based contact (rubber solution, evostik) are more
reliable on non gap filling plastic to plastic joints.

IN order to fully set epoxy it must be mixed in an exact ratio,
Generally 50:50 for 'hobby' formulations. Failure to do this results
in a rubbery matrix of unset epoxy. Additionally poor mixing will
result in the same effect. Heating it helps it to mix better and
also makes it set far faster and far harder, and less liable to fail
under heat subsequently. E.g. repaired china put through a
dishwasher. This is all knowledge gained by reading up about it and using
it
exhaustively for over 50 years.

My favourite glue is contact adhesive. Put glue on both parts, wait
10 minutes, push together and it already has enough strength to hold
the parts in place.

"Wot's a joist?"
(Peter Hucker)

You're a pedant who distinguishes between beams and joists. They're all 2x4.

--
You can make a signature quote seem authoritative by attributing it to a famous person. -- Sun Tzu

On 14/08/2016 21:54, James Wilkinson wrote:

You're a pedant who distinguishes between beams and joists. They're all
2x4.

Thankfully, they are not in the house I am sitting in.

The joists are far larger than that!

--
Rod

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:08:02 +0100, polygonum wrote:

On 14/08/2016 21:54, James Wilkinson wrote:

You're a pedant who distinguishes between beams and joists. They're all
2x4.

Thankfully, they are not in the house I am sitting in.

The joists are far larger than that!

My floor is supported by 2x4 inch joists space 16 inches apart. The floor does not collapse or bounce. The ceiling (and loft) is the same.

--
5 Brits were injured last year in accidents involving out of control Scalextric cars.

On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 3:02:58 PM UTC+1, John wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

3M VHB tape, its what holds a lot of signs together

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-VHB-RP2...AOSwHPlWdLW E

In article ,
John wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good strong glue that isn't a liquid? I need to
put it on a vertical surface but obviously don't want to have it all
dribble down. I have no faith in Superglue - the only thing I've ever
seen it stick is skin!

It's actually to mount my LPG control switch in position in the car.
They're self-adhesive but for some reason this just won't stay stuck
on. You can see what it's for he

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...doo/switch.jpg

I rather like Evostick Serious - although it's not cheap. And does need
the two bits secured for about 24 hours for the best results. But does
stick most common materials together, and seems pretty ok with heat and so
on.

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