I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?


NT

On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, wrote:
I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?


NT

Is it flat on flat? If not you might want something gap filling like
Shoe Goo.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:32:17 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, wrote:
I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?


NT

Is it flat on flat? If not you might want something gap filling like
Shoe Goo.
+1
refixed soles on shoes, much stronger than Evo Stick.

On Saturday, 13 August 2016 10:13:20 UTC+1, Davidm wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:32:17 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, tabbypurr wrote:

I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?

Is it flat on flat? If not you might want something gap filling like
Shoe Goo.
+1
refixed soles on shoes, much stronger than Evo Stick.

Thanks, I'd better look for it then.


NT

On 8/13/2016 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, 13 August 2016 10:13:20 UTC+1, Davidm wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:32:17 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, tabbypurr wrote:

I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?

Is it flat on flat? If not you might want something gap filling like
Shoe Goo.
+1
refixed soles on shoes, much stronger than Evo Stick.

Thanks, I'd better look for it then.


NT

It's the gap filling and flexibility where Shoe Goo wins. For putting
laminate on worktops, or vinyl down on flooring chipboard then the
standard EvoStik type "rubber solutions" are absolutely fine.

If you need a fillet to protect an edge (a bit like a capping weld, say)
Shoe Goo is good for that too. Try to apply just the right amount, and
let it shape itself by surface tension before it sets, then you get a
neat finish.

On Sunday, 14 August 2016 14:42:46 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 8/13/2016 1:12 PM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 13 August 2016 10:13:20 UTC+1, Davidm wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:32:17 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, tabbypurr wrote:

I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?

Is it flat on flat? If not you might want something gap filling like
Shoe Goo.
+1
refixed soles on shoes, much stronger than Evo Stick.

Thanks, I'd better look for it then.


NT

It's the gap filling and flexibility where Shoe Goo wins. For putting
laminate on worktops, or vinyl down on flooring chipboard then the
standard EvoStik type "rubber solutions" are absolutely fine.

If you need a fillet to protect an edge (a bit like a capping weld, say)
Shoe Goo is good for that too. Try to apply just the right amount, and
let it shape itself by surface tension before it sets, then you get a
neat finish.

I'm after whatever will take repeated physical forces best. It will flex slightly in use. I'm not sure whether it'll need to gap fill, but probably more likely it will. The wilko options would avoid postage fwiw.


NT

On Sunday, 14 August 2016 14:42:46 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 8/13/2016 1:12 PM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 13 August 2016 10:13:20 UTC+1, Davidm wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:32:17 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, tabbypurr wrote:

I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?

Is it flat on flat? If not you might want something gap filling like
Shoe Goo.
+1
refixed soles on shoes, much stronger than Evo Stick.

Thanks, I'd better look for it then.


NT

It's the gap filling and flexibility where Shoe Goo wins. For putting
laminate on worktops, or vinyl down on flooring chipboard then the
standard EvoStik type "rubber solutions" are absolutely fine.

If you need a fillet to protect an edge (a bit like a capping weld, say)
Shoe Goo is good for that too. Try to apply just the right amount, and
let it shape itself by surface tension before it sets, then you get a
neat finish.

'Shoe Goo is composed of toluene, styrene-butadiene copolymer, and solvent naphtha.[4][5]'
Well well, builder's SBR is just that, styrene butadiene.
'About 50% of car tires are made from various types of SBR. The styrene/butadiene ratio influences the properties of the polymer: with high styrene content, the rubbers are harder and less rubbery.['
' Other uses include shoe heels and soles, gaskets, and even chewing gum.[3]'

So maybe I could use some diyer's SBR? IIUC it's emulsified rather than dissolved, but the end result is almost identical.


NT

On 8/14/2016 5:04 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 14:42:46 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 8/13/2016 1:12 PM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 13 August 2016 10:13:20 UTC+1, Davidm wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:32:17 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, tabbypurr wrote:

I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?

Is it flat on flat? If not you might want something gap filling like
Shoe Goo.
+1
refixed soles on shoes, much stronger than Evo Stick.

Thanks, I'd better look for it then.


NT

It's the gap filling and flexibility where Shoe Goo wins. For putting
laminate on worktops, or vinyl down on flooring chipboard then the
standard EvoStik type "rubber solutions" are absolutely fine.

If you need a fillet to protect an edge (a bit like a capping weld, say)
Shoe Goo is good for that too. Try to apply just the right amount, and
let it shape itself by surface tension before it sets, then you get a
neat finish.

'Shoe Goo is composed of toluene, styrene-butadiene copolymer, and solvent naphtha.[4][5]'
Well well, builder's SBR is just that, styrene butadiene.
'About 50% of car tires are made from various types of SBR. The styrene/butadiene ratio influences the properties of the polymer: with high styrene content, the rubbers are harder and less rubbery.['
' Other uses include shoe heels and soles, gaskets, and even chewing gum.[3]'

So maybe I could use some diyer's SBR? IIUC it's emulsified rather than dissolved, but the end result is almost identical.


NT

That's the American MSDS, my tube says it contains perchloroethylene.

As you say, SBR is emulsified rather than dissolved. Evaporated shoe goo
leaves you with solid polymer, dried out SBR leaves you with individual
particles with variable adhesion. And no real gap filling.

On Sunday, 14 August 2016 21:13:14 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 8/14/2016 5:04 PM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 14:42:46 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 8/13/2016 1:12 PM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 13 August 2016 10:13:20 UTC+1, Davidm wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:32:17 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, tabbypurr wrote:

I'm looking for the toughest most durable rubber tyre to EPDM rubber glue possible.
Evo-stik contact adhesive is the classic one, though I'm not seeing it stocked anywhere nearby, so would need to buy online.
Wilko have:
All purpose clear glue 67g £1.50, which was recommended on here as one to use
Permanent rubber adhesive
Contact adhesive - these 2 just under £2 each.

Which one's best?

Is it flat on flat? If not you might want something gap filling like
Shoe Goo.
+1
refixed soles on shoes, much stronger than Evo Stick.

Thanks, I'd better look for it then.


NT

It's the gap filling and flexibility where Shoe Goo wins. For putting
laminate on worktops, or vinyl down on flooring chipboard then the
standard EvoStik type "rubber solutions" are absolutely fine.

If you need a fillet to protect an edge (a bit like a capping weld, say)
Shoe Goo is good for that too. Try to apply just the right amount, and
let it shape itself by surface tension before it sets, then you get a
neat finish.

'Shoe Goo is composed of toluene, styrene-butadiene copolymer, and solvent naphtha.[4][5]'
Well well, builder's SBR is just that, styrene butadiene.
'About 50% of car tires are made from various types of SBR. The styrene/butadiene ratio influences the properties of the polymer: with high styrene content, the rubbers are harder and less rubbery.['
' Other uses include shoe heels and soles, gaskets, and even chewing gum.[3]'

So maybe I could use some diyer's SBR? IIUC it's emulsified rather than dissolved, but the end result is almost identical.

That's the American MSDS, my tube says it contains perchloroethylene.

perc is just a solvent. SBR is the solid component.

As you say, SBR is emulsified rather than dissolved. Evaporated shoe goo
leaves you with solid polymer, dried out SBR leaves you with individual
particles with variable adhesion. And no real gap filling.


NT