My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets loads
of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is still not
brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

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On 05/08/2016 18:42, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the
lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

Do you mean Block Pavers?

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:20:43 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 05/08/2016 18:42, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the
lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

Do you mean Block Pavers?

Yes, they are called many things. For example: http://www.acepaving.net/before-afte...y-after-3b.jpg
10 times smarter than big plain grey chunks of concrete.

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On 05/08/16 20:20, Bod wrote:
On 05/08/2016 18:42, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the
lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

Do you mean Block Pavers?
No. Block Paviors.


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On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:49:49 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 05/08/16 20:20, Bod wrote:
On 05/08/2016 18:42, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the
lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

Do you mean Block Pavers?
No. Block Paviors.

You're either a snob or French, most call them block pavers: http://www.pavingexpert.com/blocks03.htm
The reason is they pave, so they are pavers. Where are you getting the i and the o from?

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On 05/08/2016 20:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/08/16 20:20, Bod wrote:
On 05/08/2016 18:42, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the
lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

Do you mean Block Pavers?
No. Block Paviors.


They are called either.

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James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the
lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

It's a patio not a driveway you pillock. I'm not even sure if the flags are
actually concrete, they are very white and are not the same as the ones on
footpaths.
I had those crappy "monoblocks" on the drive at my last house. I fought the
weeds for 18 years.
I've seen a photo of your weed infested ******** drive Hucker. Very council
estate - as you are

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:38:42 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the
lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

It's a patio not a driveway you pillock.

Doesn't matter, there are much nicer things you can have there, consider upgrading to this:
http://static.concretenetwork.com/ph...rete_55094.jpg

I'm not even sure if the flags are
actually concrete, they are very white and are not the same as the ones on
footpaths.

That's a bit better.

I had those crappy "monoblocks" on the drive at my last house. I fought the
weeds for 18 years.

Bleach kills weeds stone dead. And jetwash.

I've seen a photo of your weed infested ******** drive Hucker. Very council
estate - as you are

I'm too lazy/busy to clean it often.

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On 20:43 5 Aug 2016, James Wilkinson wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:38:42 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:13:59 +0100, Fredxxx
wrote:

On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by
council tenant on account of its cost?

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable
home owner would ever use them.

Agreed. That and gravel. Just ends up all over the
lawn/flowerbed/etc. My drive is monoblocked.

It's a patio not a driveway you pillock.

Doesn't matter, there are much nicer things you can have there,
consider upgrading to this:

http://static.concretenetwork.com/ph...rete_55094.jpg

Stunning. Really nice.

Too fancy for my taste.

I'm not so sure about the barbecue pergola kitchen-bar structure.

Yeah, particularly the little pillars at the
bottom of the timber poles, looks silly IMO.

I'm not even sure if the flags are actually concrete, they are
very white and are not the same as the ones on footpaths.

That's a bit better.

I had those crappy "monoblocks" on the drive at my last house.
I fought the weeds for 18 years.

Bleach kills weeds stone dead. And jetwash.

I've seen a photo of your weed infested ******** drive Hucker.
Very council estate - as you are

I'm too lazy/busy to clean it often.

Yeah, that's the big advantage of poured concrete, no maintenance required
at all.

Fredxxx wrote:
On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Er, no.

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Thanks for your very useful input.
Now, go **** yourself.

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 19:08:07 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Fredxxx wrote:
On 05/08/2016 17:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio

I thought "concrete flag"s were a chav thing, only laid by council
tenant on account of its cost?

Er, no.

Er, yes. Plain cheap ugly slabs of concrete is for council estates.
Compare these two:
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...london/155.jpg
http://www.northeastpavingandgardens...10/slider1.jpg

Concrete flags do change and become dull, why no reputable home owner
would ever use them.

Thanks for your very useful input.
Now, go **** yourself.

I thought you scrubbed your slabs with a toothbrush?

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James Wilkinson wrote:

Er, yes. Plain cheap ugly slabs of concrete is for council estates.
Compare these two:
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...london/155.jpg
http://www.northeastpavingandgardens...10/slider1.jpg



I install block paving and slabs.

Block paving is cheaper than slabs.

50mm normal block paving, brindle with black border costs approx £10 per sq
metre to buy.
(Jewsons, but most BM's are doing them for around £12)

2X2 grey concrete utility flags are £16 per metre to buy
http://snipurl.com/2akfe3n

For driving purposes, the foundations are the same

So when you use the term 'plain and cheap', you must be referring to block
paving?

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 19:53:17 +0100, Phil L wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote:

Er, yes. Plain cheap ugly slabs of concrete is for council estates.
Compare these two:
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...london/155.jpg
http://www.northeastpavingandgardens...10/slider1.jpg



I install block paving and slabs.

Block paving is cheaper than slabs.

I just checked Beatson's prices (similar to Jewsons) and the cost is about the same.

So you have to be really stupid to get tacky plain concrete slabs when you can have monoblock for the same price.

50mm normal block paving, brindle with black border costs approx £10 per sq
metre to buy.
(Jewsons, but most BM's are doing them for around £12)

2X2 grey concrete utility flags are £16 per metre to buy
http://snipurl.com/2akfe3n

For driving purposes, the foundations are the same

So when you use the term 'plain and cheap', you must be referring to block
paving?

Look at the photos I linked to and tell me in all honesty you prefer the big grey squares.

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On 05/08/2016 19:53, Phil L wrote:
James Wilkinson wrote:

Er, yes. Plain cheap ugly slabs of concrete is for council estates.
Compare these two:
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...london/155.jpg
http://www.northeastpavingandgardens...10/slider1.jpg



I install block paving and slabs.

Block paving is cheaper than slabs.

50mm normal block paving, brindle with black border costs approx £10 per sq
metre to buy.
(Jewsons, but most BM's are doing them for around £12)

2X2 grey concrete utility flags are £16 per metre to buy
http://snipurl.com/2akfe3n

For driving purposes, the foundations are the same

So when you use the term 'plain and cheap', you must be referring to block
paving?


I think that block pavered drives look the business. They certainly
don't look cheap. Much better looking than slabs or concrete.

On 05/08/2016 19:37, James Wilkinson wrote:


Er, yes. Plain cheap ugly slabs of concrete is for council estates.
Compare these two:
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...london/155.jpg

http://www.northeastpavingandgardens...10/slider1.jpg


That bog standard herringbone pattern is the one the local councils are
putting on tenants drives around here.

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:05:28 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

On 05/08/2016 19:37, James Wilkinson wrote:


Er, yes. Plain cheap ugly slabs of concrete is for council estates.
Compare these two:
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...london/155.jpg

http://www.northeastpavingandgardens...10/slider1.jpg


That bog standard herringbone pattern is the one the local councils are
putting on tenants drives around here.

Typical council wasting money.

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dennis@home wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Er, yes. Plain cheap ugly slabs of concrete is for council estates.
Compare these two:
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...london/155.jpg

http://www.northeastpavingandgardens...10/slider1.jpg

That bog standard herringbone pattern is the one the local councils are
putting on tenants drives around here.

So why don't you lot pour a concrete slab like we do ?

Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets
loads of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is
still not brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.

Jet washing takes off a fine layer of concrete each time you do it.

It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

Yes, I do. It doesn't.

Phil L wrote:
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets
loads of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is
still not brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.

Jet washing takes off a fine layer of concrete each time you do it.

Ahhhh.

It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

Yes, I do. It doesn't.

Taa.

On 8/5/2016 5:18 PM, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets loads
of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is still not
brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?




Make a home brew cleaner - much stronger and does a really good job.

Sodium Hypochlorite (14%)

Lauryl Dimethylamine Oxide - (AKA Amine Oxide)

A suitable mix is 3L Hypo
9L water
300ml Amine

suds it up in a bucket.
With a hose wet the patio, apply solution with a soft nylon sweeping
brush (type used to wash caravans) work it in and leave ... keep it wet
with more solution ... don't let it dry.

After 5 mins you will see all algae & staining lifting off .... go over
with brush agitating it .... then after about 20min rinse off.


I found Bonnymans cheapest on-line stockists of the product.

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 22:01:41 +0100, rick wrote:

On 8/5/2016 5:18 PM, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets loads
of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is still not
brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?




Make a home brew cleaner - much stronger and does a really good job.

Sodium Hypochlorite (14%)

Lauryl Dimethylamine Oxide - (AKA Amine Oxide)

A suitable mix is 3L Hypo
9L water
300ml Amine

suds it up in a bucket.
With a hose wet the patio, apply solution with a soft nylon sweeping
brush (type used to wash caravans) work it in and leave ... keep it wet
with more solution ... don't let it dry.

After 5 mins you will see all algae & staining lifting off .... go over
with brush agitating it .... then after about 20min rinse off.


I found Bonnymans cheapest on-line stockists of the product.

A jetwash (using the narrow jet without a fancy attachment) cleans anything off anything instantly. Just don't try cleaning your tyres with it.

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On Friday, 5 August 2016 17:18:12 UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets loads
of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is still not
brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

Black algea I 'spect.
There's this sort of stuff.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Patio-Black.../dp/B00EUXJIRY

Dunno how effective it is.

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 5:18:12 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets loads
of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is still not
brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

You jet washed it with washing up liquid?????

FFS! Jet washers dilute detergents to about 3%

That won't have any effect whatsoever, other than creating a lot of bubbles! And if not rinsed off thoroughly it can leave a residue that attracts dirt.

General rule; Use washing up liquid for washing up, not patios.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 16:14:47 +0100, wrote:

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 5:18:12 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets loads
of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is still not
brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

You jet washed it with washing up liquid?????

FFS! Jet washers dilute detergents to about 3%

That won't have any effect whatsoever, other than creating a lot of bubbles! And if not rinsed off thoroughly it can leave a residue that attracts dirt.

General rule; Use washing up liquid for washing up, not patios.

A jetwash washes by brute force, no chemicals are necessary. It should take anything off a driveway all by itself.

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On 07/08/2016 16:19, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 16:14:47 +0100, wrote:

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 5:18:12 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it gets
loads
of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but it is still
not
brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

You jet washed it with washing up liquid?????

FFS! Jet washers dilute detergents to about 3%

That won't have any effect whatsoever, other than creating a lot of
bubbles! And if not rinsed off thoroughly it can leave a residue that
attracts dirt.

General rule; Use washing up liquid for washing up, not patios.

A jetwash washes by brute force, no chemicals are necessary. It should
take anything off a driveway all by itself.

True enough, although a pre spray can speed the job up. But not washing
up liquid!

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wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 5:18:12 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it
gets loads of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but
it is still not brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

You jet washed it with washing up liquid?????

FFS! Jet washers dilute detergents to about 3%

That won't have any effect whatsoever, other than creating a lot of
bubbles! And if not rinsed off thoroughly it can leave a residue that
attracts dirt.

General rule; Use washing up liquid for washing up, not patios.

If you Google it, Dave, a lot of people advocate using a bit of washing up
liquid. This has worked fine up until now and also works when I jet wash the
drive - once per year.
Mind you, I've always used a bit of washing up liquid so I would not really
know if it makes any difference.
Do You think that patio cleaner is any good?
One bloke here thinks not.

On 07/08/2016 17:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 5:18:12 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it
gets loads of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid, but
it is still not brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to now.
Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

You jet washed it with washing up liquid?????

FFS! Jet washers dilute detergents to about 3%

That won't have any effect whatsoever, other than creating a lot of
bubbles! And if not rinsed off thoroughly it can leave a residue that
attracts dirt.

General rule; Use washing up liquid for washing up, not patios.

If you Google it, Dave, a lot of people advocate using a bit of washing up
liquid. This has worked fine up until now and also works when I jet wash the
drive - once per year.

There are an awful lot of halfwits on Google in that case.


Mind you, I've always used a bit of washing up liquid so I would not really
know if it makes any difference.
Do You think that patio cleaner is any good?
One bloke here thinks not.


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David Lang wrote:
On 07/08/2016 17:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 5:18:12 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
My concrete flagged patio is looking a bit grotty even though it
gets loads of sunlight. I jet washed it using washing up liquid,
but it is still not brilliant.
I jet wash it every year.
It has been down for about 5 years and always looked fine up to
now. Does anybody know if patio cleaner really works?

You jet washed it with washing up liquid?????

FFS! Jet washers dilute detergents to about 3%

That won't have any effect whatsoever, other than creating a lot of
bubbles! And if not rinsed off thoroughly it can leave a residue
that attracts dirt.

General rule; Use washing up liquid for washing up, not patios.

If you Google it, Dave, a lot of people advocate using a bit of
washing up liquid. This has worked fine up until now and also works
when I jet wash the drive - once per year.

There are an awful lot of halfwits on Google in that case.

An awful lot.
Patio cleaner?



Mind you, I've always used a bit of washing up liquid so I would not
really know if it makes any difference.
Do You think that patio cleaner is any good?
One bloke here thinks not.

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
...


There are an awful lot of halfwits on Google in that case.

An awful lot.
Patio cleaner?


I assumed that you had used that for washing your dishes.

Washing up liquid is for common people. Dishwasher tablets and one press of
a button is all I need to do the dishes.


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