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I'm just saying you shouldn't interfere with
a person's choice to commit suicide.

Sure but it does make sense to make it harder for them to
cause a lot of hassle for other people when they kill themselves
or say risk other people by landing on them when they jump etc.

You're worrying about nothing.

I'm not worrying about anything, just realise what makes sense.

It's unlikely that someone would commit suicide by landing on top of
someone else.

Does happen tho.

Not often enough to care.

Everybody knows that makes the chances of death too low.

Not when you jump from high enough.

If you're stood next to a tall building, and you hear someone yelling
ARGH! above you, what do you instinctively do?

None of them yell on the way down. Bit late when they land on you.

Anyone would yell if they were plummeting to their almost certain death, deliberate or not.

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On Sunday, 31 July 2016 19:22:14 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:15:26 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Cursitor Doom wrote
Steve Walker wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

All they care about is nobody can say "poorly lit
area,
sue
them".

Just as easy to sue for "unable to see due to glare."

And anyway, why blue? Why not white?

Probably just bluish white, or whiter white than the
yellow
crap
everywhere else.

That article about reducing suicides in train stations
had
some
that
were very blue indeed. Never seen anything like that
blue
here.

Reducing murders is a good thing, but reducing suicides?
Who
gives
a
****?

I don't want my train delayed or cancelled because someone
has
stuck
themselves to the track.

A train is powerful enough to just slice through them.

But doesn't always kill them so someone has to move the
armless/
legless ****wit from the tracks before another train can use
it.

Still only 2 minutes.

Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the
bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and
talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Fire him for being such a sissy.

Takes even longer.

Have something like that in the interview.

Impossible to work out who will be like that in the interview
and not really that viable to put them in that situation to see
how they react to it even if you make someone who is about
to jump in front of a train do that say on a test track during
the recruitment process.

Easy to fake, get some movie prop guys in. Have it unexpectedly
during
the test.

And you don't think that the story would ever get out that they
do that in the interview when they do that with all of them ?

Do different stuff after a while.

It would still end up splashed all over the media.

Make it top secret.

Wouldn't work, most obviously with those who fail the interview.

Most people have no idea what is in interviews.

The media would be telling everyone if the tube started doing that.

The people scared of such things wouldn't bother applying.

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Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Plus the police treat it as a crime scene, so it can be several hours
before train service is resumed.

Maybe they should get police who don't work so bloody slowly.

Not possible when you have to check if anyone saw the individual
who ended up under the train was pushed or deliberately jumped
or was blotto or drugged out of its brain and staggered over the
edge of the platform at the time the train happened to show up etc.

They have CCTV, they don't have to ask people.

They do when it isnt clear if someone just stumbled into someone
else and pushed them over the edge of the platform accidentally
or make it look like that when it was actually done deliberately.

The camera will show just as much as a witness, and without prejudice.

Even sillier than you usually manage. No camera can
record the victim saying something to the pusher.

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Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Plus the police treat it as a crime scene, so it can be several hours
before train service is resumed.

Maybe they should get police who don't work so bloody slowly.

Not possible when you have to check if anyone saw the individual
who ended up under the train was pushed or deliberately jumped
or was blotto or drugged out of its brain and staggered over the
edge of the platform at the time the train happened to show up etc.

You can ask that after you've picked up the body.

Still takes a lot longer than 2 minutes to do all that and you
can't start the trains again until the witnesses have been asked.

Yes you can, all you need to do before starting the trains is get the dead
body out of the way of them.

PIty about the witnesses who leave on that train.

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James Wilkinson wrote
Rod Speed wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I'm just saying you shouldn't interfere with
a person's choice to commit suicide.

Sure but it does make sense to make it harder for them to
cause a lot of hassle for other people when they kill themselves
or say risk other people by landing on them when they jump etc.

You're worrying about nothing.

I'm not worrying about anything, just realise what makes sense.

It's unlikely that someone would commit suicide by landing on top of
someone else.

Does happen tho.

Not often enough to care.

Everybody knows that makes the chances of death too low.

Not when you jump from high enough.

If you're stood next to a tall building, and you hear someone yelling
ARGH! above you, what do you instinctively do?

None of them yell on the way down. Bit late when they land on you.

Anyone would yell if they were plummeting to their almost certain death,
deliberate or not.

We know that **** all of those who jump deliberately do.

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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Sunday, 31 July 2016 19:22:14 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:15:26 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Cursitor Doom wrote
Steve Walker wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

All they care about is nobody can say "poorly lit
area,
sue
them".

Just as easy to sue for "unable to see due to
glare."

And anyway, why blue? Why not white?

Probably just bluish white, or whiter white than the
yellow
crap
everywhere else.

That article about reducing suicides in train stations
had
some
that
were very blue indeed. Never seen anything like that
blue
here.

Reducing murders is a good thing, but reducing suicides?
Who
gives
a
****?

I don't want my train delayed or cancelled because
someone
has
stuck
themselves to the track.

A train is powerful enough to just slice through them.

But doesn't always kill them so someone has to move the
armless/
legless ****wit from the tracks before another train can
use
it.

Still only 2 minutes.

Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the
bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and
talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Fire him for being such a sissy.

Takes even longer.

Have something like that in the interview.

Impossible to work out who will be like that in the interview
and not really that viable to put them in that situation to see
how they react to it even if you make someone who is about
to jump in front of a train do that say on a test track during
the recruitment process.

Easy to fake, get some movie prop guys in. Have it unexpectedly
during
the test.

And you don't think that the story would ever get out that they
do that in the interview when they do that with all of them ?

Do different stuff after a while.

It would still end up splashed all over the media.

Make it top secret.

Wouldn't work, most obviously with those who fail the interview.

Most people have no idea what is in interviews.

The media would be telling everyone if the tube started doing that.

The people scared of such things wouldn't bother applying.

But those who don't know how they would react in that situation
would and those who want the job anyway would know how to
react when they pull that test during the interview etc.

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On Sunday, 31 July 2016 19:22:14 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:15:26 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Cursitor Doom wrote
Steve Walker wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

All they care about is nobody can say "poorly lit
area,
sue
them".

Just as easy to sue for "unable to see due to
glare."

And anyway, why blue? Why not white?

Probably just bluish white, or whiter white than the
yellow
crap
everywhere else.

That article about reducing suicides in train stations
had
some
that
were very blue indeed. Never seen anything like that
blue
here.

Reducing murders is a good thing, but reducing suicides?
Who
gives
a
****?

I don't want my train delayed or cancelled because
someone
has
stuck
themselves to the track.

A train is powerful enough to just slice through them.

But doesn't always kill them so someone has to move the
armless/
legless ****wit from the tracks before another train can
use
it.

Still only 2 minutes.

Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the
bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and
talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Fire him for being such a sissy.

Takes even longer.

Have something like that in the interview.

Impossible to work out who will be like that in the interview
and not really that viable to put them in that situation to see
how they react to it even if you make someone who is about
to jump in front of a train do that say on a test track during
the recruitment process.

Easy to fake, get some movie prop guys in. Have it unexpectedly
during
the test.

And you don't think that the story would ever get out that they
do that in the interview when they do that with all of them ?

Do different stuff after a while.

It would still end up splashed all over the media.

Make it top secret.

Wouldn't work, most obviously with those who fail the interview.

Most people have no idea what is in interviews.

The media would be telling everyone if the tube started doing that.

The people scared of such things wouldn't bother applying.

But those who don't know how they would react in that situation
would and those who want the job anyway would know how to
react when they pull that test during the interview etc.

Funny how the emergency stop works in the driving test yet everybody knows it's coming.

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James Wilkinson wrote

I'm just saying you shouldn't interfere with
a person's choice to commit suicide.

Sure but it does make sense to make it harder for them to
cause a lot of hassle for other people when they kill themselves
or say risk other people by landing on them when they jump etc.

You're worrying about nothing.

I'm not worrying about anything, just realise what makes sense.

It's unlikely that someone would commit suicide by landing on top of
someone else.

Does happen tho.

Not often enough to care.

Everybody knows that makes the chances of death too low.

Not when you jump from high enough.

If you're stood next to a tall building, and you hear someone yelling
ARGH! above you, what do you instinctively do?

None of them yell on the way down. Bit late when they land on you.

Anyone would yell if they were plummeting to their almost certain death,
deliberate or not.

We know that **** all of those who jump deliberately do.

Do we? Show me the evidence.

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Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Plus the police treat it as a crime scene, so it can be several hours
before train service is resumed.

Maybe they should get police who don't work so bloody slowly.

Not possible when you have to check if anyone saw the individual
who ended up under the train was pushed or deliberately jumped
or was blotto or drugged out of its brain and staggered over the
edge of the platform at the time the train happened to show up etc.

You can ask that after you've picked up the body.

Still takes a lot longer than 2 minutes to do all that and you
can't start the trains again until the witnesses have been asked.

Yes you can, all you need to do before starting the trains is get the dead
body out of the way of them.

PIty about the witnesses who leave on that train.

If they witnessed something and they want to be a witness, they'll get off the train.

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[38 lines snipped]

Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Plus the police treat it as a crime scene, so it can be several hours
before train service is resumed.

Maybe they should get police who don't work so bloody slowly.

Not possible when you have to check if anyone saw the individual
who ended up under the train was pushed or deliberately jumped
or was blotto or drugged out of its brain and staggered over the
edge of the platform at the time the train happened to show up etc.

They have CCTV, they don't have to ask people.

They do when it isnt clear if someone just stumbled into someone
else and pushed them over the edge of the platform accidentally
or make it look like that when it was actually done deliberately.

The camera will show just as much as a witness, and without prejudice.

Even sillier than you usually manage. No camera can
record the victim saying something to the pusher.

We invented the microphone a long long time ago.

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On Sunday, 31 July 2016 19:22:14 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:15:26 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Cursitor Doom wrote
Steve Walker wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

All they care about is nobody can say "poorly lit area, sue
them".

Just as easy to sue for "unable to see due to glare."

And anyway, why blue? Why not white?

Probably just bluish white, or whiter white than the yellow crap
everywhere else.

That article about reducing suicides in train stations had some
that
were very blue indeed. Never seen anything like that blue here.

Reducing murders is a good thing, but reducing suicides? Who gives
a
****?

I don't want my train delayed or cancelled because someone has stuck
themselves to the track.

A train is powerful enough to just slice through them.

But doesn't always kill them so someone has to move the armless/
legless ****wit from the tracks before another train can use it.

Still only 2 minutes.

Takes a lot longer than that to have the train stop,

Press a button on the signalling system.

Takes a minute or two to ring someone who can do that.

So we're still talking a couple of minutes then.

decide that
the fool who has just jumped in front of it actually is dead,

Remove him first, then work that out on the platform while the trains
continue.

Doing it like that risks crippling someone for life who isnt actually dead.

His fault for jumping onto the ****ing track.

And takes more than 2 minutes to do that and get the train stopped anyway.

Nope, I could do it in two.

get the train to move off the remains, have other trains stopped
so that someone can remove the remains from the tracks,

Walk onto track, pick up body, walk off track.

Not that simple when corpse is under the stopped train.

Then he's well ****ed, just continue moving the train, get him when it's left the station.

get the trains started again, etc etc etc.

Press a button on the signalling system.

Takes a lot longer than 2 mins to do all that.

Yes, pushing a button down 5mm takes ages.

In spades waiting for the cops to show up and work out whether
someone was shoved over the edge of the platform as the train
showed up, or staggered over the edge when blotto or drugged etc.

Sort that **** out later, get the trains running first.

Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

Lot more than that.

The provide an easy way for anyone to commit suicide - a drink you can buy
in a pharmacy.

Yes, that would be a much better approach. Even better off ebay, amazon or
aliexpress.

Agreed.

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wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Cursitor Doom wrote
Steve Walker wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

All they care about is nobody can say "poorly
lit
area,
sue
them".

Just as easy to sue for "unable to see due to
glare."

And anyway, why blue? Why not white?

Probably just bluish white, or whiter white than
the
yellow
crap
everywhere else.

That article about reducing suicides in train
stations
had
some
that
were very blue indeed. Never seen anything like that
blue
here.

Reducing murders is a good thing, but reducing
suicides?
Who
gives
a
****?

I don't want my train delayed or cancelled because
someone
has
stuck
themselves to the track.

A train is powerful enough to just slice through them.

But doesn't always kill them so someone has to move the
armless/
legless ****wit from the tracks before another train can
use
it.

Still only 2 minutes.

Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the
bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed
and
talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Fire him for being such a sissy.

Takes even longer.

Have something like that in the interview.

Impossible to work out who will be like that in the interview
and not really that viable to put them in that situation to see
how they react to it even if you make someone who is about
to jump in front of a train do that say on a test track during
the recruitment process.

Easy to fake, get some movie prop guys in. Have it unexpectedly
during
the test.

And you don't think that the story would ever get out that they
do that in the interview when they do that with all of them ?

Do different stuff after a while.

It would still end up splashed all over the media.

Make it top secret.

Wouldn't work, most obviously with those who fail the interview.

Most people have no idea what is in interviews.

The media would be telling everyone if the tube started doing that.

The people scared of such things wouldn't bother applying.

But those who don't know how they would react in that situation
would and those who want the job anyway would know how to
react when they pull that test during the interview etc.

Funny how the emergency stop works in the driving test yet everybody knows
it's coming.

Completely different to how you react when some fool
jumps in front of your train after the train has stopped.

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I'm just saying you shouldn't interfere with
a person's choice to commit suicide.

Sure but it does make sense to make it harder for them to
cause a lot of hassle for other people when they kill themselves
or say risk other people by landing on them when they jump etc.

You're worrying about nothing.

I'm not worrying about anything, just realise what makes sense.

It's unlikely that someone would commit suicide by landing on top of
someone else.

Does happen tho.

Not often enough to care.

Everybody knows that makes the chances of death too low.

Not when you jump from high enough.

If you're stood next to a tall building, and you hear someone yelling
ARGH! above you, what do you instinctively do?

None of them yell on the way down. Bit late when they land on you.

Anyone would yell if they were plummeting to their almost certain death,
deliberate or not.

We know that **** all of those who jump deliberately do.

Do we?

Yep, there are usually someone who sees them jump.

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Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and
talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Plus the police treat it as a crime scene, so it can be several
hours
before train service is resumed.

Maybe they should get police who don't work so bloody slowly.

Not possible when you have to check if anyone saw the individual
who ended up under the train was pushed or deliberately jumped
or was blotto or drugged out of its brain and staggered over the
edge of the platform at the time the train happened to show up etc.

You can ask that after you've picked up the body.

Still takes a lot longer than 2 minutes to do all that and you
can't start the trains again until the witnesses have been asked.

Yes you can, all you need to do before starting the trains is get the
dead
body out of the way of them.

PIty about the witnesses who leave on that train.

If they witnessed something and they want to be a witness, they'll get off
the train.

I was talking about those who were on the platform and
just want to get where they are doing to instead of wasting
an hour or more talking to the cops about what happened.

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Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

And how long before the traumatised driver can be calmed and
talked
out
of his cab and another driver fetched to move the train?

Plus the police treat it as a crime scene, so it can be several
hours
before train service is resumed.

Maybe they should get police who don't work so bloody slowly.

Not possible when you have to check if anyone saw the individual
who ended up under the train was pushed or deliberately jumped
or was blotto or drugged out of its brain and staggered over the
edge of the platform at the time the train happened to show up etc.

They have CCTV, they don't have to ask people.

They do when it isnt clear if someone just stumbled into someone
else and pushed them over the edge of the platform accidentally
or make it look like that when it was actually done deliberately.

The camera will show just as much as a witness, and without prejudice.

Even sillier than you usually manage. No camera can
record the victim saying something to the pusher.

We invented the microphone a long long time ago.

But the surveillance cameras in the train
stations can't possibly record stuff like that.

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James Wilkinson wrote
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All they care about is nobody can say "poorly lit area, sue
them".

Just as easy to sue for "unable to see due to glare."

And anyway, why blue? Why not white?

Probably just bluish white, or whiter white than the yellow
crap
everywhere else.

That article about reducing suicides in train stations had some
that
were very blue indeed. Never seen anything like that blue here.

Reducing murders is a good thing, but reducing suicides? Who
gives
a
****?

I don't want my train delayed or cancelled because someone has
stuck
themselves to the track.

A train is powerful enough to just slice through them.

But doesn't always kill them so someone has to move the armless/
legless ****wit from the tracks before another train can use it.

Still only 2 minutes.

Takes a lot longer than that to have the train stop,

Press a button on the signalling system.

Takes a minute or two to ring someone who can do that.

So we're still talking a couple of minutes then.

Not with everything that gets done.

decide that
the fool who has just jumped in front of it actually is dead,

Remove him first, then work that out on the platform while the trains
continue.

Doing it like that risks crippling someone for life who isnt actually
dead.

His fault for jumping onto the ****ing track.

But not if he say had a heart attack or hypoglycaemic
episode and ended up under the train that way.

And takes more than 2 minutes to do that and get the train stopped
anyway.

Nope, I could do it in two.

Pigs arse you could.

get the train to move off the remains, have other trains stopped
so that someone can remove the remains from the tracks,

Walk onto track, pick up body, walk off track.

Not that simple when corpse is under the stopped train.

Then he's well ****ed,

Nope. There were at least two in that surveillance footage that
you couldn't watch that were fine even when they ended up
under the train.

just continue moving the train,

And **** the individual that is under the train completely.

get him when it's left the station.

get the trains started again, etc etc etc.

Press a button on the signalling system.

Takes a lot longer than 2 mins to do all that.

Yes, pushing a button down 5mm takes ages.

That is the quickest part of what needs to be done to stop the train.

In spades waiting for the cops to show up and work out whether
someone was shoved over the edge of the platform as the train
showed up, or staggered over the edge when blotto or drugged etc.

Sort that **** out later, get the trains running first.

Taking the witnesses with them so they can't sort that **** out later.

Takes 2 minutes for a couple of cleaners to pick up the bits.

Meanwhile the trains are stopped.

Makes more sense to discourage them from jumping in front
of the train if that is possible.

For 2 lousy minutes?

Lot more than that.

The provide an easy way for anyone to commit suicide - a drink you can
buy
in a pharmacy.

Yes, that would be a much better approach. Even better off ebay, amazon
or aliexpress.

Agreed.

But a bit of a problem when some will get
some from places like that and lace the
drinks of someone they want to get rid of.