Trying to locate additional brackets for an odball shelving system. This is
similar to the "Spur" brand, but the uprights are only 15mm wide (not 25mm)
and the slots are narrower and on the edges:

http://www.jusme.com/shelf/P1060187.JPG
http://www.jusme.com/shelf/P1060189.JPG

I think it was originally sourced from Wickes but no longer stocked (in our
local at least). Any clues to the proper brand-name, or a source of brackets?
Ebay has plenty of 25mm stuff, but nothing I can see like it. The normal
Spur brackets don't fit (or even come close).

Cheers,
--
Ian

"Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

"Ian" wrote in
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Trying to locate additional brackets for an odball shelving system. This is
similar to the "Spur" brand, but the uprights are only 15mm wide (not 25mm)
and the slots are narrower and on the edges:

http://www.jusme.com/shelf/P1060187.JPG
http://www.jusme.com/shelf/P1060189.JPG

I think it was originally sourced from Wickes but no longer stocked (in our
local at least). Any clues to the proper brand-name, or a source of brackets?
Ebay has plenty of 25mm stuff, but nothing I can see like it. The normal
Spur brackets don't fit (or even come close).

Cheers,

First up thats a very unusual profile for the uprights.

Second, you're probably going to have to paint white brackets black if
you want a match.

Down the years these unusual systems appear on the market only to
disappear again. A hammered grey finish seems popular ATM.

Third both Spur brackets and uprights are made from heavy gauge steel
and are totally unforgiving when it comes to fitting in non standard
systems.

From your photo it appears the outside of any bracket needs to
be 13mm max. Screwfix brackets will meet this spec. As with
the uprights they're made from a lighter gauge steel.
Screwfix uprights are shallow. This means Spur brackets
won't fit as they hit the wall, but that Screwfix brackets
will fit all but the most shallow of all other systems.
However the actual profile of the bracket at the back
of the bracket, the large flange with the slot that's meant
to slot in the top slot and the flange which is then
meant to settle into the bottom slot can differ between
makes. All of this can be remedied with a file or angle
grinder, even to the extent of cutting off the bottom
flange altogether. As with the painting, it all depends
on how much work you're prepared to do.
As Screwfix brackets are made from thin gauge they're
likely to move around a bit in the slots which won't be
a problem if the shelves are fully loaded but otherwise
maybe. Although the problem could probably be partially
solved by packing the slots.
You can buy a single bracket from Screwfix for around £1.70
for the smallest size just to test out the possibilities
and see how much work would be required.


michael adams

....

Ian wrote:

Trying to locate additional brackets for an odball shelving system. This is
similar to the "Spur" brand, but the uprights are only 15mm wide (not 25mm)
and the slots are narrower and on the edges:

Good luck! I found that even the same manufacturer brackets from today,
don't fit the spacing of the rails from a few years ago :-(

On 2016-07-04, michael adams wrote:

"Ian" wrote in
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Trying to locate additional brackets for an odball shelving system. This is
similar to the "Spur" brand, but the uprights are only 15mm wide (not 25mm)
and the slots are narrower and on the edges:

http://www.jusme.com/shelf/P1060187.JPG
http://www.jusme.com/shelf/P1060189.JPG

I think it was originally sourced from Wickes but no longer stocked (in our
local at least). Any clues to the proper brand-name, or a source of brackets?
Ebay has plenty of 25mm stuff, but nothing I can see like it. The normal
Spur brackets don't fit (or even come close).

Cheers,

First up thats a very unusual profile for the uprights.

Second, you're probably going to have to paint white brackets black if
you want a match.

Down the years these unusual systems appear on the market only to
disappear again. A hammered grey finish seems popular ATM.

Third both Spur brackets and uprights are made from heavy gauge steel
and are totally unforgiving when it comes to fitting in non standard
systems.

From your photo it appears the outside of any bracket needs to
be 13mm max. Screwfix brackets will meet this spec. As with
the uprights they're made from a lighter gauge steel.
Screwfix uprights are shallow. This means Spur brackets
won't fit as they hit the wall, but that Screwfix brackets
will fit all but the most shallow of all other systems.
However the actual profile of the bracket at the back
of the bracket, the large flange with the slot that's meant
to slot in the top slot and the flange which is then
meant to settle into the bottom slot can differ between
makes. All of this can be remedied with a file or angle
grinder, even to the extent of cutting off the bottom
flange altogether. As with the painting, it all depends
on how much work you're prepared to do.
As Screwfix brackets are made from thin gauge they're
likely to move around a bit in the slots which won't be
a problem if the shelves are fully loaded but otherwise
maybe. Although the problem could probably be partially
solved by packing the slots.
You can buy a single bracket from Screwfix for around £1.70
for the smallest size just to test out the possibilities
and see how much work would be required.

michael adams

Thanks.

I have black paint (as you can see from the attempt to hide the
fixing screw...)

Yes, these are thinner than the Spur ones, no chance of bodging
one of those into service. I'll take a punt on the Screwfix one
and see if it works. It's only for a small shelf to hold a speaker
(5.1 centre style, not 100W bass!). I'm not even contemplating
taking them all down and replacing with something standard just
for that.


--
Ian

"Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

On 2016-07-04, Andy Burns wrote:
Ian wrote:

Trying to locate additional brackets for an odball shelving system. This is
similar to the "Spur" brand, but the uprights are only 15mm wide (not 25mm)
and the slots are narrower and on the edges:

Good luck! I found that even the same manufacturer brackets from today,
don't fit the spacing of the rails from a few years ago :-(

Quite.

It looks quite neat, and less brutalist than the usual Spur system, which is
probably why we choose it (about 15+ years ago).

--
Ian

"Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

In article
,
Ian

wrote:
On 2016-07-04, Andy Burns wrote:
Ian wrote:

Trying to locate additional brackets for an odball shelving system.
This is similar to the "Spur" brand, but the uprights are only 15mm
wide (not 25mm) and the slots are narrower and on the edges:

Good luck! I found that even the same manufacturer brackets from
today, don't fit the spacing of the rails from a few years ago :-(

Quite.

It looks quite neat, and less brutalist than the usual Spur system,
which is probably why we choose it (about 15+ years ago).

I chose a single slot aluminium system made by Spur because it looked
better. That's no longer made either. ;-)

--
*The most wasted day of all is one in which we have not laughed.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 04/07/2016 16:47, michael adams wrote:
"Ian" wrote in
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Trying to locate additional brackets for an odball shelving system. This is
similar to the "Spur" brand, but the uprights are only 15mm wide (not 25mm)
and the slots are narrower and on the edges:

http://www.jusme.com/shelf/P1060187.JPG
http://www.jusme.com/shelf/P1060189.JPG

I think it was originally sourced from Wickes but no longer stocked (in our
local at least). Any clues to the proper brand-name, or a source of brackets?
Ebay has plenty of 25mm stuff, but nothing I can see like it. The normal
Spur brackets don't fit (or even come close).

Cheers,

First up thats a very unusual profile for the uprights.

Second, you're probably going to have to paint white brackets black if
you want a match.

Down the years these unusual systems appear on the market only to
disappear again. A hammered grey finish seems popular ATM.

Third both Spur brackets and uprights are made from heavy gauge steel
and are totally unforgiving when it comes to fitting in non standard
systems.

From your photo it appears the outside of any bracket needs to
be 13mm max. Screwfix brackets will meet this spec. As with
the uprights they're made from a lighter gauge steel.
Screwfix uprights are shallow. This means Spur brackets
won't fit as they hit the wall, but that Screwfix brackets
will fit all but the most shallow of all other systems.
However the actual profile of the bracket at the back
of the bracket, the large flange with the slot that's meant
to slot in the top slot and the flange which is then
meant to settle into the bottom slot can differ between
makes. All of this can be remedied with a file or angle
grinder, even to the extent of cutting off the bottom
flange altogether. As with the painting, it all depends
on how much work you're prepared to do.
As Screwfix brackets are made from thin gauge they're
likely to move around a bit in the slots which won't be
a problem if the shelves are fully loaded but otherwise
maybe. Although the problem could probably be partially
solved by packing the slots.
You can buy a single bracket from Screwfix for around £1.70
for the smallest size just to test out the possibilities
and see how much work would be required.


michael adams

...




Element 32 is a good substitute for Spur, which may no longer
be available. Includes some useful attachment methods
like 'hanging' the uprights from a horizontal bar, useful
for stud walls.

http://element-system.com/en/wall-sh...s-classic.html

"Andrew" wrote in message
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Element 32 is a good substitute for Spur, which may no longer
be available. Includes some useful attachment methods
like 'hanging' the uprights from a horizontal bar, useful
for stud walls.

http://element-system.com/en/wall-sh...s-classic.html


One big advantage of something like Screwfix as against Spur
in the past,t is that the relative cheapness allows much smaller
centres between uprights than would have been considered in
the past. This is for full shelves of books including heavy
art books printed on coated paper.
This all depends on the state of your walls and whether the
chosen shelving material will sag, of course.
Measuring up, in the past with Spur I used 30" centres.
Using Screwfix I went down to 15" in centres including
2 sets of double uprights set 8" apart - that's 9 uprights
altogether to cover an 8 ft wall. Having the double
uprights means rather than having rather limiting
and boring 8 ft shelves running the length of the wall,
each of the three compartments can be treated separately
with staggered shelves arranged as needed.
The holes in Screwfix uprights are rather far apart as
compared with others. However being made of mild steel its
simple enough to drill extra holes as needed. Just don't
used these extra holes as a reference when presenting
the uprights to the wall.
In addition while having extra uprights might seem a pain,
with dodgy walls the odd screw not taking hold is less
of a worry as the load is spread out more.

michael adams

....

For Screwfix wherever mentioned in this thread please read
Toolstation


"michael adams" wrote in message
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"Andrew" wrote in message
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Element 32 is a good substitute for Spur, which may no longer
be available. Includes some useful attachment methods
like 'hanging' the uprights from a horizontal bar, useful
for stud walls.

http://element-system.com/en/wall-sh...s-classic.html


One big advantage of something like Screwfix as against Spur
in the past,t is that the relative cheapness allows much smaller
centres between uprights than would have been considered in
the past. This is for full shelves of books including heavy
art books printed on coated paper.
This all depends on the state of your walls and whether the
chosen shelving material will sag, of course.
Measuring up, in the past with Spur I used 30" centres.
Using Screwfix I went down to 15" in centres including
2 sets of double uprights set 8" apart - that's 9 uprights
altogether to cover an 8 ft wall. Having the double
uprights means rather than having rather limiting
and boring 8 ft shelves running the length of the wall,
each of the three compartments can be treated separately
with staggered shelves arranged as needed.
The holes in Screwfix uprights are rather far apart as
compared with others. However being made of mild steel its
simple enough to drill extra holes as needed. Just don't
used these extra holes as a reference when presenting
the uprights to the wall.
In addition while having extra uprights might seem a pain,
with dodgy walls the odd screw not taking hold is less
of a worry as the load is spread out more.

michael adams

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