Suicide is not the answer.

On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.
Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington
The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack.


Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

Mind you if George stops paying benefits and buys sterling or gold, he
could clear the national debt on the bounce



--
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's
too dark to read.

Groucho Marx

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.
Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington
The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack.


Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

Mind you if George stops paying benefits and buys sterling or gold, he
could clear the national debt on the bounce

I'm really upset for the jocks, the fish twins, Salmond and Sturgeon must be
really miffed. Lets hope they have a new referendum and **** off out of the
UK.

On 24/06/16 05:42, bm wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.
Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington
The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack.


Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

Mind you if George stops paying benefits and buys sterling or gold, he
could clear the national debt on the bounce

I'm really upset for the jocks, the fish twins, Salmond and Sturgeon must be
really miffed. Lets hope they have a new referendum and **** off out of the
UK.


The problem there is that we will need to rebuild Hadrian's wall with
machine guns..

Once refugees start flooding into Scotland.


--
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

What surprised me much more is that the bookies got it so wrong.

For the first time with a binary result as far as I can remember.

Going to be interesting to see what evidence shows up
that was done by deliberately betting to produce that
result by some that would benefit from Britain leaving.

What I haven't seen yet is any decent analysis of whether
the result seen is due to a different bias in who bothered
to vote at all between the two groups and that will always
be hard to determine.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.

I doubt that is what happened. I doubt they cared what he wanted.
Bet it was actually much more due to them being opposed to the
very high levels of immigration from the EU instead.

Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money

True.

All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington

Which is a problem with the line that it was driven by
immigration from the EU, that area is likely much more
affected by that than most unless many of the immigrant
dont end up in London because of the high rental costs there.

The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack.

Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Plenty of them must have said the opposite to get a 48/52 result.

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be.

Going to be more interesting to see how the majority of
MPs who dont want to leave will react in Westminster.

IMO they are unlikely to ignore the referendum result and
keep Britain in the EU anyway, but nothing's impossible I spose.

Starting with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

Yeah, pretty spectacular and makes no logical sense.

We have to be punished. And they will.

Even with the pound slumping by 10% that doesnt really
punish anyone much, not even those who spend most of
their benefits on food which will certainly see some effect
on the cost of the most basic food ingredients that goes
into their fast food and ready meals etc. But will have ****
all effect on the retail price of that food. Its more the toffs
pigging out on the fancy food from the most expensive
CAP sheltered operations in the EU that will see the biggest
effect on their food prices, but they spend **** all on food
anyway as a percentage of their spending, so even with those
it doesnt actually punish them unless they choose to change
from the most expensive frog wine to cheaper non EU wine.
Bet they dont.

It is war.

I dont believe that.

Mind you if George stops paying benefits and buys sterling or gold, he
could clear the national debt on the bounce

He's not going to be that stupid given the obscene gesture the
voters have just made in the general direction of politicians.

When's the leaving ****up for UKIP MEPs?

On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

Huh?
Brian

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Suicide is not the answer.

On 24/06/16 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

#
Looks like it :-)

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

Don't be silly. Its happening
Huge sums of money are being placed to move the markets around to ensure
that doom is the result of a vote which will have no effect whatsoever
for months, if not years.

Pour encourager les autres....






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On 24/06/16 09:21, Brian Gaff wrote:
Huh?
Brian

WHOOSH!

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Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

I thought this all sounds like a bookies myself.

Lets see, Cameron will stay till October, and if he has a better offer by
then from EU who in Brussels are ****ting themselves knowing other countries
are thinking like we are about project federal Europe, then he may find
enough of parliament agree that we need a general election. Then new faces
old values and oh, this new deal we have is a game changer, so we will go
with this instead as the referendum, held under EU law is not legally
binding.
Simples. Find the lady you are wrong again its over here...
Brian

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On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.
Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington
The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack.


Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

Mind you if George stops paying benefits and buys sterling or gold, he
could clear the national debt on the bounce



--
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too
dark to read.

Groucho Marx

On 24/06/2016 09:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

#
Looks like it :-)

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

Don't be silly. Its happening
Huge sums of money are being placed to move the markets around to ensure
that doom is the result of a vote which will have no effect whatsoever
for months, if not years.

You're being dafter than a brush. You're suggesting there's a worldwide
conspiracy against you, with millions of participants, and it's being
kept quiet?

The prospects for the UK are worse, and the market price of sterling has
adjusted accordingly.




Pour encourager les autres....

On 24/06/16 09:26, Brian Gaff wrote:
I thought this all sounds like a bookies myself.

Lets see, Cameron will stay till October, and if he has a better offer by
then from EU who in Brussels are ****ting themselves knowing other countries
are thinking like we are about project federal Europe, then he may find
enough of parliament agree that we need a general election. Then new faces
old values and oh, this new deal we have is a game changer, so we will go
with this instead as the referendum, held under EU law is not legally
binding.
Simples. Find the lady you are wrong again its over here...
Brian

I don't think so. Even the MSM and even the Bucking Feeb, are saying
'thats it, we're out, not let's get on with it'

I think TPTB have decided that a UK outside the EU, but having its
economy wrecked, is the best option.


--
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

On 24/06/16 09:29, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 09:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

#
Looks like it :-)

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

Don't be silly. Its happening
Huge sums of money are being placed to move the markets around to ensure
that doom is the result of a vote which will have no effect whatsoever
for months, if not years.

You're being dafter than a brush. You're suggesting there's a worldwide
conspiracy against you, with millions of participants, and it's being
kept quiet?


Not against ME you ****,. against the UK!

The prospects for the UK are worse, and the market price of sterling has
adjusted accordingly.


No, the perception is being generated, with huge sums of money, that the
prospects for the UK are worse.

Do you really not know how the markets work?






Pour encourager les autres....









--
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

On 24/06/2016 09:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:29, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 09:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be.
Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

#
Looks like it :-)

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market
went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

Don't be silly. Its happening
Huge sums of money are being placed to move the markets around to ensure
that doom is the result of a vote which will have no effect whatsoever
for months, if not years.

You're being dafter than a brush. You're suggesting there's a worldwide
conspiracy against you, with millions of participants, and it's being
kept quiet?


Not against ME you ****,. against the UK!

What difference does it make? How would this conspiracy be kept secret.

And, just as important, suppose that a big investor knew about this
conspiracy. He could make billions simply by taking a contrary position.
That's what George Soros did when John Major was trying to keep the UK
in the ERM.



The prospects for the UK are worse, and the market price of sterling has
adjusted accordingly.


No, the perception is being generated, with huge sums of money, that the
prospects for the UK are worse.

No, the market anticipates what's going to happen. You and others like
you, have got your way, and ****ed up the economy for generations to come.



Do you really not know how the markets work?

Yes, I do. Unlike you.

On 24/06/16 10:01, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 09:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:29, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 09:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be.
Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

#
Looks like it :-)

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market
went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have
pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

Don't be silly. Its happening
Huge sums of money are being placed to move the markets around to
ensure
that doom is the result of a vote which will have no effect whatsoever
for months, if not years.

You're being dafter than a brush. You're suggesting there's a worldwide
conspiracy against you, with millions of participants, and it's being
kept quiet?


Not against ME you ****,. against the UK!

What difference does it make? How would this conspiracy be kept secret.


It isn't secret!

And, just as important, suppose that a big investor knew about this
conspiracy. He could make billions simply by taking a contrary position.
That's what George Soros did when John Major was trying to keep the UK
in the ERM.


And you think they haven't?

Huge sums put on bets on the remain side, to make it look like we were
in, but no one saw the other side, the pound quietly being sold short

Bless!




The prospects for the UK are worse, and the market price of sterling has
adjusted accordingly.


No, the perception is being generated, with huge sums of money, that the
prospects for the UK are worse.

No, the market anticipates what's going to happen. You and others like
you, have got your way, and ****ed up the economy for generations to come.


Bad loser.



Do you really not know how the markets work?

Yes, I do. Unlike you.


No, you don't.


--
€œIt is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.€�

Thomas Sowell

On 24/06/2016 10:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 10:01, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 09:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:29, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 09:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be.
Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have
got it
in for you, Turnip?

#
Looks like it :-)

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market
went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If
the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have
pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

Don't be silly. Its happening
Huge sums of money are being placed to move the markets around to
ensure
that doom is the result of a vote which will have no effect whatsoever
for months, if not years.

You're being dafter than a brush. You're suggesting there's a worldwide
conspiracy against you, with millions of participants, and it's being
kept quiet?


Not against ME you ****,. against the UK!

What difference does it make? How would this conspiracy be kept secret.


It isn't secret!

And, just as important, suppose that a big investor knew about this
conspiracy. He could make billions simply by taking a contrary position.
That's what George Soros did when John Major was trying to keep the UK
in the ERM.


And you think they haven't?

Huge sums put on bets on the remain side, to make it look like we were
in, but no one saw the other side, the pound quietly being sold short

Bless!




The prospects for the UK are worse, and the market price of sterling
has
adjusted accordingly.


No, the perception is being generated, with huge sums of money, that the
prospects for the UK are worse.

No, the market anticipates what's going to happen. You and others like
you, have got your way, and ****ed up the economy for generations to
come.


Bad loser.



Do you really not know how the markets work?

Yes, I do. Unlike you.


No, you don't.

On 24/06/2016 10:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

What difference does it make? How would this conspiracy be kept secret.


It isn't secret!

Can you give me two references to it, other than in your imagination?



And, just as important, suppose that a big investor knew about this
conspiracy. He could make billions simply by taking a contrary position.
That's what George Soros did when John Major was trying to keep the UK
in the ERM.


And you think they haven't?

Huge sums put on bets on the remain side, to make it look like we were
in, but no one saw the other side, the pound quietly being sold short

That's possible. The betting market is very small compared to the
currency market, so easy enough to influence. Whether anyone did it is
harder to determine.

Of course, that's got nothing to do with your alleged worldwide
conspiracy to punish the UK. You seem rather confused.


No, the market anticipates what's going to happen. You and others like
you, have got your way, and ****ed up the economy for generations to
come.


Bad loser.

We're all massive losers. My kids, and so on.






Do you really not know how the markets work?

Yes, I do. Unlike you.


No, you don't.


I'll have to bear in mind that some bloke on the internet thinks my
years of training and professional qualifications are not worth anything.

On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
8


Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Do you not find it interesting that the ones you claimed were most
affected by immigrants and migrants in Birmingham were evenly split?
The ones in London voted to stay.


Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

Don't be stupid, its capitalism and its what you asked for, or do you
not remember saying we would have a drop in the pound so we could export
more?

Don't try and pass the blame onto others when you were told what would
happen and you chose not to believe anyone.

On 24/06/2016 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

All those that voted to leave will have to blame someone if it goes
wrong, its human nature for people who lack trust to blame others and
turnip posted a poll that showed leavers didn't trust anyone.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.
Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington
The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack.

It's noticeable that in the Tory heartlands down south, the only consistent
Remainers was a slew of Thames Valley districts, the bit of the UK (outside
London) where all the well paid jobs are. I was going to call them the "I'm
all right Jack" brigade, but I see you've done that already.

The rest of us voted Leave.

(FTAOD, I am "all right" too, I just think more about the welfare of others
than some of my clan.)

tim

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On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

What surprised me much more is that the bookies got it so wrong.

For the first time with a binary result as far as I can remember.

Going to be interesting to see what evidence shows up
that was done by deliberately betting to produce that
result by some that would benefit from Britain leaving.

What I haven't seen yet is any decent analysis of whether
the result seen is due to a different bias in who bothered
to vote at all between the two groups and that will always
be hard to determine.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.

I doubt that is what happened. I doubt they cared what he wanted.
Bet it was actually much more due to them being opposed to the
very high levels of immigration from the EU instead.

Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money

True.

All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington

Which is a problem with the line that it was driven by
immigration from the EU, that area is likely much more
affected by that than most unless many of the immigrant
dont end up in London because of the high rental costs there.

I think it's more of the case that large numbers of Brits working in jobs
that have seen wages depressed because of immigrants, don't end up there due
to high rental costs.

In London you are either working in a well paid job, or a foreigner (who
mostly, didn't get to vote), plus a small number living in social housing

tim

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 05:42, bm wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.
Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington
The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack.


Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

Mind you if George stops paying benefits and buys sterling or gold, he
could clear the national debt on the bounce

I'm really upset for the jocks, the fish twins, Salmond and Sturgeon
must be
really miffed. Lets hope they have a new referendum and **** off out
of the
UK.


The problem there is that we will need to rebuild Hadrian's wall with
machine guns..

Once refugees start flooding into Scotland.


You've already posted that picture!

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

#
Looks like it :-)

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

Don't be silly. Its happening
Huge sums of money are being placed to move the markets around to
ensure that doom is the result of a vote which will have no effect
whatsoever for months, if not years.

Pour encourager les autres....







No, it's traders cutting their losses. Look at the Euro.

dennis@home wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote

Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Do you not find it interesting that the ones you claimed were most
affected by immigrants and migrants in Birmingham were evenly split? The
ones in London voted to stay.

Yes, that certainly is interesting.

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

Don't be stupid, its capitalism and its what you asked for, or do you not
remember saying we would have a drop in the pound so we could export more?

Bet that doesnt happen, whatever he said.

Don't try and pass the blame onto others when you were told what would
happen and you chose not to believe anyone.

He never said that on the pound and it remains to be
seen if there is a recession because Britain left the EU.

IMO there won't be, but even if there is, Britain survived
the worst recession since the Great Depression fine and
STILL has one of the lowest unemployment rates of the
majors in europe and so can clearly handle that fine.

Yes, the agricultural sector very likely will be ****ed over
very comprehensively indeed, essentially because about
half their income is from CAP subsidys, but that's life
and that sort of propping up of the high cost ag sector
never made any sense at all and mostly employs EU
citizens to do the work anyway.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 24/06/2016 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

All those that voted to leave will have to blame someone if it goes wrong,
its human nature for people who lack trust to blame others and turnip
posted a poll that showed leavers didn't trust anyone.

More lies, they do trust some, just far fewer than the remainers.

On 24/06/16 10:22, dennis@home wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten
people, said '**** EU'.

Do you not find it interesting that the ones you claimed were most
affected by immigrants and migrants in Birmingham were evenly split?
The ones in London voted to stay.

Thats because there is over 50% 1st/2nd generation immigrants in London
and the rest are Islington champagne socialists and EU funded *******s
anyway.



Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

Don't be stupid, its capitalism and its what you asked for, or do you
not remember saying we would have a drop in the pound so we could export
more?


Well I'd better start upo an export business damned quick.


Don't try and pass the blame onto others when you were told what would
happen and you chose not to believe anyone.


Oh get you!

NOTHING has happened really yet. This is pure market volatility, and
billions are being made on it. The fundamentals haven't really changed.







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A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
its shoes.

On 24/06/16 10:26, dennis@home wrote:
On 24/06/2016 09:17, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting
with a run on the pound and the FTSE.

We have to be punished. And they will. It is war.

You mean that all the hedge fund managers around the world have got it
in for you, Turnip?

Initially, it looked like we would remain in the EU, and the market went
up. The £ reached $1.50 (it's now roughly 10% lower than that). If the
elite were in the business of punishing you, why would they have pushed
the market up? All those investors all over the world? All against
little you?

There's something rather conceited about paranoia, you know.

All those that voted to leave will have to blame someone if it goes
wrong, its human nature for people who lack trust to blame others and
turnip posted a poll that showed leavers didn't trust anyone.

Correct. But it makes a change for blaming Nigel Farage for Jo Cox, anyway.



--
A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
its shoes.

On 24/06/16 10:36, tim... wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and
the huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class
came out and totally shafted corbyn.
Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington
The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack.

It's noticeable that in the Tory heartlands down south, the only
consistent Remainers was a slew of Thames Valley districts, the bit of
the UK (outside London) where all the well paid jobs are. I was going
to call them the "I'm all right Jack" brigade, but I see you've done
that already.

The rest of us voted Leave.

(FTAOD, I am "all right" too, I just think more about the welfare of
others than some of my clan.)


Exactly.

Its the tradesmen who are happy, nit the stockbroker belt.

And the stockbrokers do very nicely out of cosy globalisation.

Basically we have now a map of who did well out of the EU and who did not.

don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the
first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples
pockets.

Oh, of course our lefty friends don't do 'work' do they?

tim




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You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone.

Al Capone

"tim..." wrote in message
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"jjjuu78" wrote in message
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote:
Suicide is not the answer.


What has surprised me, is who voted which way.

What surprised me much more is that the bookies got it so wrong.

For the first time with a binary result as far as I can remember.

Going to be interesting to see what evidence shows up
that was done by deliberately betting to produce that
result by some that would benefit from Britain leaving.

What I haven't seen yet is any decent analysis of whether
the result seen is due to a different bias in who bothered
to vote at all between the two groups and that will always
be hard to determine.

I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the
huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came
out and totally shafted corbyn.

I doubt that is what happened. I doubt they cared what he wanted.
Bet it was actually much more due to them being opposed to the
very high levels of immigration from the EU instead.

Who voted in?

Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money
Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money

True.

All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money
Londonistan, including Islington

Which is a problem with the line that it was driven by
immigration from the EU, that area is likely much more
affected by that than most unless many of the immigrant
dont end up in London because of the high rental costs there.

I think it's more of the case that large numbers of Brits working in jobs
that have seen wages depressed because of immigrants, don't end up there
due to high rental costs.

In London you are either working in a well paid job, or a foreigner (who
mostly, didn't get to vote), plus a small number living in social housing

Dunno. None of the londoners who have commented in here appear to fit into
any of your categories. Sure, this group is nothing like representative, but
still...

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as
the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working
peoples pockets.

Oh, of course our lefty friends don't do 'work' do they?






No, it only took them a few hours to gather outside Johnson's
house in order to abuse him for winning. Sore losers!

On 24/06/16 11:55, Capitol wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as
the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working
peoples pockets.

Oh, of course our lefty friends don't do 'work' do they?






No, it only took them a few hours to gather outside Johnson's
house in order to abuse him for winning. Sore losers!

They are just losers.
Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do.



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"When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

Josef Stalin

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

They are just losers.
Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do.

Whereas you've got those voices in your head.


michael adams

...

On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

They are just losers.
Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do.

Whereas you've got those voices in your head.


michael adams

...



Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate...

On 24/06/16 12:32, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

They are just losers.
Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to
do.

Whereas you've got those voices in your head.


michael adams

...



Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate...
and bad losers.

Anyway the good thing about those voices is, they are ME. And they dont
tell me what to do!

And they agree with everything I think! Because they are ME, THINKING!!!



--
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone.

Al Capone

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

They are just losers.
Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do.

Whereas you've got those voices in your head.


michael adams

...



Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate...

This is UseNet. If you want quality debate try the
Oxford Union.

Although quite you should chose to jump to the defence
of Turnip, quite possibly one of the most offensive posters
on this NewsGroup, is anybody's guess.

Unless of course you're in possession of privileged information
concerning the state of Turnip's Mental Health, denied to anyone
else.

Which would certainly explain a few things.


michael adams

....

On 24/06/16 12:46, michael adams wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

They are just losers.
Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do.

Whereas you've got those voices in your head.


michael adams

...



Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate...

This is UseNet. If you want quality debate try the
Oxford Union.

Although quite you should chose to jump to the defence
of Turnip, quite possibly one of the most offensive posters
on this NewsGroup, is anybody's guess.

Unless of course you're in possession of privileged information
concerning the state of Turnip's Mental Health, denied to anyone
else.

Which would certainly explain a few things.


Splendid - keep the ad-homs coming.

As for me, quite sane thank you - and I voted based on many things, not
on what I was told to do by the government or Germany or the EU
commission's head.

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 24/06/16 12:46, michael adams wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

They are just losers.
Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do.

Whereas you've got those voices in your head.


michael adams

...



Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate...

This is UseNet. If you want quality debate try the
Oxford Union.

Although quite you should chose to jump to the defence
of Turnip, quite possibly one of the most offensive posters
on this NewsGroup, is anybody's guess.

Unless of course you're in possession of privileged information
concerning the state of Turnip's Mental Health, denied to anyone
else.

Which would certainly explain a few things.


Splendid - keep the ad-homs coming.

As for me, quite sane thank you

I didn't ask about you. What makes you think I did ?

Your being in possession of information concerning Turnip's
Mental Health has no bearing on your own mental health.
Although it might imply your being in a position of
resposibility of some kind. Being in charge of Turnip's
ward, releasing him from his strait jacket every morning,
or whatever.


michael adams

....

On 24/06/16 12:53, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/06/16 12:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 12:32, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

They are just losers.
Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to
do.

Whereas you've got those voices in your head.


michael adams

...



Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate...
and bad losers.

Possibly. To be fair, you should probably cut back on the ad hominems
too I know you don't like Dave P, but there's not need for the two of
you to be perpetually insulting each other. Just sayin...


I am very fond of Dave P. He just needs the benefit of education and I
have to give it to him.

He is like a boy in my class at prep school who couldn't get his head
round latin, till the headmaster hit him over the head every time he got
it wrong.

In 5 mins he had 'amo, amas, amat' down pat.

Now Dave didn't have the benefit of that sort of privileged upbringing,
and so I have taken it upon myself to give it to him.



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true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

On 24/06/2016 11:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the
first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples
pockets.

You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people!

On 24/06/16 13:37, dennis@home wrote:
On 24/06/2016 11:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the
first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples
pockets.

You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people!


Of course. Why else did they vote for it?



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"When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

Josef Stalin