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dennis@home wrote:
On 24/06/2016 11:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people! Definitely. Higher wages, less unemployment, cheaper housing and food, just to name a few. |
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"dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: 8 Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten people, said '**** EU'. Do you not find it interesting that the ones you claimed were most affected by immigrants and migrants in Birmingham were evenly split? The ones in London voted to stay. That's because the immigrants in London perform the service jobs that no-one else in London wants to do out in the sticks, the immigrants *take* all the jobs that everyone else wants to do (OK not *all* of them) tim |
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"Capitol" wrote in message o.uk... Agreed. The most compelling reason to vote leave thus putting a curb on future investment, promoting uncertaintly at every level of UK business, causing thousands of job losses in foreign owned banks and businesses, basically potentially wrecking the UK economy for maybe the next 5 to 10 years was watching Camoron saying black was white! Oh that's' all right then, well worth it, all things considered. michael adams .... |
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tim... wrote: That's because the immigrants in London perform the service jobs that no-one else in London wants to do Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. out in the sticks, the immigrants *take* all the jobs that everyone else wants to do (OK not *all* of them) Often wondered how they *take* all these jobs? Do they work for well below the legal minimum? Do free overtime? Or just lick the bosses arse? -- *One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 24/06/16 15:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , tim... wrote: That's because the immigrants in London perform the service jobs that no-one else in London wants to do Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. I know electricians and plumbers (brilliant ones) that are native British. But my regular DPD driver is an east european. DPD still manages a 3.8 score on Glassdoor so it's not the worst place to work. out in the sticks, the immigrants *take* all the jobs that everyone else wants to do (OK not *all* of them) Often wondered how they *take* all these jobs? Do they work for well below the legal minimum? Do free overtime? Or just lick the bosses arse? |
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On Friday, 24 June 2016 15:38:30 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , tim... wrote: That's because the immigrants in London perform the service jobs that no-one else in London wants to do Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. What about my friend the cycle courier who got £10k compensation after his boss sacked him for not working christmas eve and not accepting not a pay cut but a cut in pay per drop and he admitted he could do this because there were plenty of polish people looking for work. ? out in the sticks, the immigrants *take* all the jobs that everyone else wants to do (OK not *all* of them) Often wondered how they *take* all these jobs? Do they work for well below the legal minimum? Yes they don't have any other choices if they want to eat. Do free overtime? No such thing as overtime it's just work. Celebrity chef and good food fanatic Jamie Oliver has accused Britains young people of being wet, and suggested they stop whingeing and work 80 to 100-hour weeks. Or just lick the bosses arse? Part of the deal why do you think so many protitutues aren't British and working in the UK ? |
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Tim Watts wrote: Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. I know electricians and plumbers (brilliant ones) that are native British. Of course. But according to what I've been told, a local firm doesn't get any apprentiship applications from what you'd describe as English lads. Or any for time served tradesmen. And they are awash with work. Or rather were. ;-) -- *I tried to catch some fog, but I mist.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 24/06/2016 14:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 13:37, dennis@home wrote: On 24/06/2016 11:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people! Of course. Why else did they vote for it? Probably because they thought they were voting for what the brexit crowd in the pub told them. Mind you Farage's trick of saying something and then retracting it a day later appears to work so we can expect that from all in the future. You can tell from the number of people that think leaving the EU means leaving the ECHR/NATO/immigration/refugees... when it doesn't. |
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On 24/06/2016 14:21, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote: On 24/06/2016 11:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people! Definitely. Higher wages, less unemployment, cheaper housing and food, just to name a few. Not a chance. What it will probably mean is higher inflation, higher interest rates so less people being able to afford to buy the cheaper housing, more buy to rent at higher rents as they can afford the higher mortgage payments, higher food prices as we import most of it and the pound will be lower much lower than the green pound we pay for EU stuff with, higher prices for home grown food as the subsidies go, higher energy prices as we pay in dollars not sterling, .... but it will be too late to do anything. Scotland may see a resurgence in oil as the pound drops and wages for North Sea oil drop in dollar terms so they will want independence more. |
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On 24/06/2016 09:29, GB wrote:
On 24/06/2016 09:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Don't be silly. Its happening Huge sums of money are being placed to move the markets around to ensure that doom is the result of a vote which will have no effect whatsoever for months, if not years. You're being dafter than a brush. You're suggesting there's a worldwide conspiracy against you, with millions of participants, and it's being kept quiet? The prospects for the UK are worse, and the market price of sterling has adjusted accordingly. There hasn't been a 'market price' for Sterling (or Yen) for years. It is now under the control of High-frequency automatons, day trading gamblers and the likes of Soros, JPM and Goldman Sucks. If there is one thing these people *hate*, it's steady, calm conditions and nothing exciting happening. |
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On 24/06/2016 10:21, GB wrote:
I'll have to bear in mind that some bloke on the internet thinks my years of training and professional qualifications are not worth anything. You're an estate agent ?. |
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On 24/06/2016 11:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 10:36, tim... wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote: Suicide is not the answer. What has surprised me, is who voted which way. I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came out and totally shafted corbyn. Who voted in? Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money Londonistan, including Islington The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack. It's noticeable that in the Tory heartlands down south, the only consistent Remainers was a slew of Thames Valley districts, the bit of the UK (outside London) where all the well paid jobs are. I was going to call them the "I'm all right Jack" brigade, but I see you've done that already. The rest of us voted Leave. (FTAOD, I am "all right" too, I just think more about the welfare of others than some of my clan.) Exactly. Its the tradesmen who are happy, nit the stockbroker belt. Turnout on some council estates said to be 80+ %, which is almost unheard of in UK political history. Labour and their europhiles have been thrown down the well. |
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dennis@home wrote:
On 24/06/2016 14:21, Capitol wrote: dennis@home wrote: On 24/06/2016 11:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people! Definitely. Higher wages, less unemployment, cheaper housing and food, just to name a few. Not a chance. What it will probably mean is higher inflation, higher interest rates so less people being able to afford to buy the cheaper housing, more buy to rent at higher rents as they can afford the higher mortgage payments, higher food prices as we import most of it and the pound will be lower much lower than the green pound we pay for EU stuff with, higher prices for home grown food as the subsidies go, higher energy prices as we pay in dollars not sterling, ... but it will be too late to do anything. Scotland may see a resurgence in oil as the pound drops and wages for North Sea oil drop in dollar terms so they will want independence more. The belief I have, is that you whinging negative economically incompetent remainers, together with the politicians have ignored history and never read Kipling. Try this:- http://www.europeanamericansunited.o...g/awakened.htm And the last lines of this:- http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_youngbrit.htm Remember, no pain, no gain. |
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On 24/06/2016 11:55, Capitol wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. Oh, of course our lefty friends don't do 'work' do they? No, it only took them a few hours to gather outside Johnson's house in order to abuse him for winning. Sore losers! And they all arrived on their bikes !!. The same cretins who jump red lights and scream at people about to walk across a pedestrian-controlled crossing when the little man is Green. Clearly a organised bunch of rent-a-mob. Bet they are the ones who wear face masks when ever there are protest marches too. |
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On 24/06/2016 17:12, dennis@home wrote:
On 24/06/2016 14:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 24/06/16 13:37, dennis@home wrote: On 24/06/2016 11:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people! Of course. Why else did they vote for it? Probably because they thought they were voting for what the brexit crowd in the pub told them. Mind you Farage's trick of saying something and then retracting it a day later appears to work so we can expect that from all in the future. You can tell from the number of people that think leaving the EU means leaving the ECHR/NATO/immigration/refugees... when it doesn't. They *might* have been clever enough to see that a Brexit win would result in Cameron resigning. |
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On 24/06/16 20:36, Andrew wrote:
On 24/06/2016 11:55, Capitol wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. Oh, of course our lefty friends don't do 'work' do they? No, it only took them a few hours to gather outside Johnson's house in order to abuse him for winning. Sore losers! And they all arrived on their bikes !!. The same cretins who jump red lights and scream at people about to walk across a pedestrian-controlled crossing when the little man is Green. Clearly a organised bunch of rent-a-mob. Bet they are the ones who wear face masks when ever there are protest marches too. I wondered where Dave had got to.... -- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , tim... wrote: That's because the immigrants in London perform the service jobs that no-one else in London wants to do Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. out in the sticks, the immigrants *take* all the jobs that everyone else wants to do (OK not *all* of them) Often wondered how they *take* all these jobs? Do they work for well below the legal minimum? Do free overtime? Or just lick the bosses arse? Do what he wants done, because they can't just put their hands out for benefits when they get the bums rush when they refuse to do what the boss wants them to do, like we saw Dave-the-Sot's mate did. |
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On 24/06/2016 10:21, GB wrote: I'll have to bear in mind that some bloke on the internet thinks my years of training and professional qualifications are not worth anything. You're an estate agent ?. Very good! |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/16 20:36, Andrew wrote: On 24/06/2016 11:55, Capitol wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. Oh, of course our lefty friends don't do 'work' do they? No, it only took them a few hours to gather outside Johnson's house in order to abuse him for winning. Sore losers! And they all arrived on their bikes !!. The same cretins who jump red lights and scream at people about to walk across a pedestrian-controlled crossing when the little man is Green. Clearly a organised bunch of rent-a-mob. Bet they are the ones who wear face masks when ever there are protest marches too. I wondered where Dave had got to.... God, I hate coffee in the keyboard! |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Tim Watts wrote Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. I know electricians and plumbers (brilliant ones) that are native British. Of course. But according to what I've been told, a local firm doesn't get any apprentiship applications from what you'd describe as English lads. Clearly the operation Adam is involved in does. Or any for time served tradesmen. And they are awash with work. Or rather were. ;-) It would be interesting to compare that operation with the one Adam is involved in. And from memory he has said that the operation he is involved in does quite a bit of work down your way too. Presumably the one you know about is a dud operation or something. |
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dennis@home wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote dennis@home wrote The Natural Philosopher wrote don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people! Of course. Why else did they vote for it? Probably because they thought they were voting for what the brexit crowd in the pub told them. Mind you Farage's trick of saying something and then retracting it a day later appears to work so we can expect that from all in the future. Nope. He does it that way because otherwise he would get **** all media coverage. That isnt the case with the Torys and Labour that get plenty of media coverage regardless of what they say, just because they are the two major political partys. You can tell from the number of people that think leaving the EU means leaving the ECHR/NATO/immigration/refugees... when it doesn't. |
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dennis@home wrote
Capitol wrote dennis@home wrote The Natural Philosopher wrote don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. You can't possibly believe this will benefit the working people! Definitely. Higher wages, less unemployment, cheaper housing and food, just to name a few. Not a chance. We'll see... What it will probably mean is higher inflation, Why should it ? And inflation is low anyway. higher interest rates Why should it ? And interest rates are very low anyway. so less people being able to afford to buy the cheaper housing, Even sillier than you usually manage. more buy to rent at higher rents as they can afford the higher mortgage payments, Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage. higher food prices as we import most of it Another bare faced lie. and the pound will be lower Yes. much lower than the green pound we pay for EU stuff with, Even sillier than you usually manage. higher prices for home grown food as the subsidies go, You just claimed there is very little of that, liar. And they can only charge what leaves them competitive with imported food anyway. And even if the farm gate price of the food was zero, that would have very little effect on the food prices people pay at retail anyway. higher energy prices as we pay in dollars not sterling, By maybe 10% at most. And even you should have noticed that oil prices have just slumped because Britain is leaving the EU. ... but it will be too late to do anything. Dont need to do anything, just trade under the WTO rules, just like all of the EU, Canada, Japan, India, China, Australia, the EU all do right now, fine. Scotland may see a resurgence in oil as the pound drops and wages for North Sea oil drop in dollar terms so they will want independence more. Good riddance to them if that is what they want to do. |
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whisky-dave wrote: Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. What about my friend the cycle courier who got 10k compensation after his boss sacked him for not working christmas eve and not accepting not a pay cut but a cut in pay per drop and he admitted he could do this because there were plenty of polish people looking for work. ? A cycle courier who was an employee? Care to state which company he worked for? I'd expect to be sacked for refusing to work a day which was part of my normal working week or whatever too. Since Xmas eve isn't a holiday. Oh - I have worked Xmas day and Boxing day etc too. Unlike most on here. Just proves the English are a work shy. No wonder ill educated foreigners who can't speak English can take their jobs. -- *I'm not your type. I'm not inflatable. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , whisky-dave wrote: Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. What about my friend the cycle courier who got 10k compensation after his boss sacked him for not working christmas eve and not accepting not a pay cut but a cut in pay per drop and he admitted he could do this because there were plenty of polish people looking for work. ? A cycle courier who was an employee? Care to state which company he worked for? I'd expect to be sacked for refusing to work a day which was part of my normal working week or whatever too. Since Xmas eve isn't a holiday. Oh - I have worked Xmas day and Boxing day etc too. Unlike most on here. Snap. The Great British Public wouldn't want to be without their Telly on Christmas Day -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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charles wrote: In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , whisky-dave wrote: Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. What about my friend the cycle courier who got 10k compensation after his boss sacked him for not working christmas eve and not accepting not a pay cut but a cut in pay per drop and he admitted he could do this because there were plenty of polish people looking for work. ? A cycle courier who was an employee? Care to state which company he worked for? I'd expect to be sacked for refusing to work a day which was part of my normal working week or whatever too. Since Xmas eve isn't a holiday. Oh - I have worked Xmas day and Boxing day etc too. Unlike most on here. Snap. The Great British Public wouldn't want to be without their Telly on Christmas Day Quite. And quite a bit of live stuff on Boxing Day too, with all the sport. -- *Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote: In article , charles wrote: In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , whisky-dave wrote: Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. What about my friend the cycle courier who got 10k compensation after his boss sacked him for not working christmas eve and not accepting not a pay cut but a cut in pay per drop and he admitted he could do this because there were plenty of polish people looking for work. ? A cycle courier who was an employee? Care to state which company he worked for? I'd expect to be sacked for refusing to work a day which was part of my normal working week or whatever too. Since Xmas eve isn't a holiday. Oh - I have worked Xmas day and Boxing day etc too. Unlike most on here. Snap. The Great British Public wouldn't want to be without their Telly on Christmas Day Quite. And quite a bit of live stuff on Boxing Day too, with all the sport. I remember an OB from Lyddon Hill where, because of the snow, the car with the production team came off the road and never made it to the site. The engineers were there and the scenes from Lyddon appear on Grandstand. Unfortunately the event was called off, so we never go to hear the commentry from one of the crew. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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In article , The Natural Philosopher
writes On 24/06/16 05:42, bm wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote: Suicide is not the answer. What has surprised me, is who voted which way. I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came out and totally shafted corbyn. Who voted in? Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money Londonistan, including Islington The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack. Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten people, said '**** EU'. Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Starting with a run on the pound and the FTSE. We have to be punished. And they will. It is war. Mind you if George stops paying benefits and buys sterling or gold, he could clear the national debt on the bounce I'm really upset for the jocks, the fish twins, Salmond and Sturgeon must be really miffed. Lets hope they have a new referendum and **** off out of the UK. The problem there is that we will need to rebuild Hadrian's wall with machine guns.. Once refugees start flooding into Scotland. The border is well north of Hadrian's Wall. A gunboat up the Tweed might be more appropriate. -- bert |
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writes "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 24/06/16 04:20, bm wrote: Suicide is not the answer. What has surprised me, is who voted which way. What surprised me much more is that the bookies got it so wrong. For the first time with a binary result as far as I can remember. Going to be interesting to see what evidence shows up that was done by deliberately betting to produce that result by some that would benefit from Britain leaving. What I haven't seen yet is any decent analysis of whether the result seen is due to a different bias in who bothered to vote at all between the two groups and that will always be hard to determine. I have a pretty clear idea of what goes on in various boroughs, and the huge surprise for me was teh way the abandoned white working class came out and totally shafted corbyn. I doubt that is what happened. I doubt they cared what he wanted. Bet it was actually much more due to them being opposed to the very high levels of immigration from the EU instead. Who voted in? Northern Ireland, a massive recipient of someone else's money Scotland, a massive recipient of someone else's money True. All the university towns, massive recipients of someone else money Londonistan, including Islington Which is a problem with the line that it was driven by immigration from the EU, that area is likely much more affected by that than most unless many of the immigrant dont end up in London because of the high rental costs there. The well heeled southern bits who are all right, Jack. Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten people, said '**** EU'. Plenty of them must have said the opposite to get a 48/52 result. Now we will see just how bad losers the elite are going to be. Going to be more interesting to see how the majority of MPs who dont want to leave will react in Westminster. IMO they are unlikely to ignore the referendum result and keep Britain in the EU anyway, but nothing's impossible I spose. Well given that for weeks you insisted there was no chance of Brexit you will forgive me if I don't value your opinion very highly - or even not at all. Snip -- bert |
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writes On 24/06/2016 10:21, GB wrote: I'll have to bear in mind that some bloke on the internet thinks my years of training and professional qualifications are not worth anything. You're an estate agent ?. Personal Fitness trainer? -- bert |
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writes On 24/06/16 09:26, Brian Gaff wrote: I thought this all sounds like a bookies myself. Lets see, Cameron will stay till October, and if he has a better offer by then from EU who in Brussels are ****ting themselves knowing other countries are thinking like we are about project federal Europe, then he may find enough of parliament agree that we need a general election. Then new faces old values and oh, this new deal we have is a game changer, so we will go with this instead as the referendum, held under EU law is not legally binding. Simples. Find the lady you are wrong again its over here... Brian I don't think so. Even the MSM and even the Bucking Feeb, are saying 'thats it, we're out, not let's get on with it' The terms of the referendum were set by Parliament and it is advisory not legally binding. The scheming ****s could if fact simply ignore it. Over the course of this campaign the BBC have been repeatedly wrong on many statements of fact particularly about article 50. Their research has been non-existent. I think TPTB have decided that a UK outside the EU, but having its economy wrecked, is the best option. -- bert |
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writes "dennis@home" wrote in message aweb.com... On 24/06/2016 05:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: 8 Everyone else, the small people, the little people, and the forgotten people, said '**** EU'. Do you not find it interesting that the ones you claimed were most affected by immigrants and migrants in Birmingham were evenly split? The ones in London voted to stay. That's because the immigrants in London perform the service jobs that no-one else in London wants to do out in the sticks, the immigrants *take* all the jobs that everyone else wants to do (OK not *all* of them) tim They seem to in Lincolnshire. -- bert |
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writes In article , tim... wrote: That's because the immigrants in London perform the service jobs that no-one else in London wants to do Yup. Plumbers. Electricians. Pretty well all of the building trades. My regular postman is now also eastern European. All the **** jobs no Englishman would be seen dead doing. Seen dead doing? Now why is that? What is their alternative? A life on benefits paid for by the rest of us? Then cut their benefits until they learnt that we don't owe them a living. out in the sticks, the immigrants *take* all the jobs that everyone else wants to do (OK not *all* of them) Often wondered how they *take* all these jobs? Do they work for well below the legal minimum? Do free overtime? Or just lick the bosses arse? No they work at the legal minimum. The welfare dependency developed by Labour means the natives consider such work beneath them. -- bert |
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writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: don 't know why our lefty friends aren't overjoyed, Think of it as the first step in redistributing wealth back in to British working peoples pockets. Oh, of course our lefty friends don't do 'work' do they? No, it only took them a few hours to gather outside Johnson's house in order to abuse him for winning. Sore losers! Typical of the extreme left. Abuse and violence when they don't win. -- bert |
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adams writes "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... They are just losers. Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do. Whereas you've got those voices in your head. michael adams ... Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate... This is UseNet. If you want quality debate try the Oxford Union. Although quite you should chose to jump to the defence of Turnip, quite possibly one of the most offensive posters on this NewsGroup, is anybody's guess. Unless of course you're in possession of privileged information concerning the state of Turnip's Mental Health, denied to anyone else. Which would certainly explain a few things. michael adams ... So you are competing for his title then. -- bert |
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adams writes "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 24/06/16 12:46, michael adams wrote: "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... They are just losers. Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do. Whereas you've got those voices in your head. michael adams ... Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate... This is UseNet. If you want quality debate try the Oxford Union. Although quite you should chose to jump to the defence of Turnip, quite possibly one of the most offensive posters on this NewsGroup, is anybody's guess. Unless of course you're in possession of privileged information concerning the state of Turnip's Mental Health, denied to anyone else. Which would certainly explain a few things. Splendid - keep the ad-homs coming. As for me, quite sane thank you I didn't ask about you. What makes you think I did ? Your being in possession of information concerning Turnip's Mental Health has no bearing on your own mental health. Although it might imply your being in a position of resposibility of some kind. Being in charge of Turnip's ward, releasing him from his strait jacket every morning, or whatever. michael adams ... No still not up to Championship insult standard. Must do better. -- bert |
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On 27/06/16 13:59, bert wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher writes On 24/06/16 09:26, Brian Gaff wrote: I thought this all sounds like a bookies myself. Lets see, Cameron will stay till October, and if he has a better offer by then from EU who in Brussels are ****ting themselves knowing other countries are thinking like we are about project federal Europe, then he may find enough of parliament agree that we need a general election. Then new faces old values and oh, this new deal we have is a game changer, so we will go with this instead as the referendum, held under EU law is not legally binding. Simples. Find the lady you are wrong again its over here... Brian I don't think so. Even the MSM and even the Bucking Feeb, are saying 'thats it, we're out, not let's get on with it' The terms of the referendum were set by Parliament and it is advisory not legally binding. The scheming ****s could if fact simply ignore it. Over the course of this campaign the BBC have been repeatedly wrong on many statements of fact particularly about article 50. Their research has been non-existent. Given that the European markets are down 7%, Nikkei down 7%, and the FTSE 3% and the Dow 5%/.... turning round and saying 'well it was all just a joke' would go down like a lead balloon, I think. I think TPTB have decided that a UK outside the EU, but having its economy wrecked, is the best option. On reflection its all falling to pieces, This might actually precipitate the debt crisis that everyone has talked about for years... -- "It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere" |
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On 27/06/16 14:14, bert wrote:
In article , michael adams writes "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 24/06/16 12:46, michael adams wrote: "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 24/06/16 12:24, michael adams wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... They are just losers. Thats why they need the labour party and the EU, to tell them what to do. Whereas you've got those voices in your head. michael adams ... Ad hominem - the mark of quality debate... This is UseNet. If you want quality debate try the Oxford Union. Although quite you should chose to jump to the defence of Turnip, quite possibly one of the most offensive posters on this NewsGroup, is anybody's guess. Unless of course you're in possession of privileged information concerning the state of Turnip's Mental Health, denied to anyone else. Which would certainly explain a few things. Splendid - keep the ad-homs coming. As for me, quite sane thank you I didn't ask about you. What makes you think I did ? Your being in possession of information concerning Turnip's Mental Health has no bearing on your own mental health. Although it might imply your being in a position of resposibility of some kind. Being in charge of Turnip's ward, releasing him from his strait jacket every morning, or whatever. michael adams ... No still not up to Championship insult standard. Must do better. I am insulted. Surely I am the MOST insulting poster on this NG. I call a spade a spade and a lefty**** a lefty**** not a 'soshul justiss warryier' But its all done in the best possible taste, and for the highest of motives. Tony Blair taught me that you can say and do anything, yea even starting wars that kill hundreds of thousands, *as long as you believed it was the right thing to do*.. WEll I do, so **** it. -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift. |
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