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In the event of a Brexit victory
That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:23:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. He would not survive a Brexit victory and will have no choice but to hoof it. |
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"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:23:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. He would not survive a Brexit victory and will have no choice but to hoof it. In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, he may well be free to stay for as long as he likes, if only because he would be much more likely to get more concessions from the EU to remain than a replacement like Boris who wouldnt even bother to see if he could get any. |
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On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. -- djc (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree. |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:56:51 +0100, DJC wrote:
If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. I have nightmares about who his replacement would be. Osbourne's a coke head, May's a female Hitler and I don't know what the **** Boris is. |
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On 19/06/2016 22:04, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:56:51 +0100, DJC wrote: If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. I have nightmares about who his replacement would be. Osbourne's a coke head, May's a female Hitler and I don't know what the **** Boris is. A Turk. -- Rod |
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"DJC" wrote in message ... On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough It won't be, you watch. he won't have a choice. Of course he does if enough Tory MPs decide to ignore the referendum result because they don't like it and realise that those who dont like it won't be voting Labour at the next election because they dont like that, because Labour opposes leaving the EU too. The Tory MPs certainly wont be changing to Boris if they dont want to leave the EU. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. Bet he isn't if the referendum result is to stay. |
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Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:56:51 +0100, DJC wrote: If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. I have nightmares about who his replacement would be. Osbourne's a coke head, May's a female Hitler and I don't know what the **** Boris is. A clown? IDS will take over, shudder |
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writes In article , jjjuu78 wrote: "DJC" wrote in message ... On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough It won't be, you watch. he won't have a choice. Of course he does if enough Tory MPs decide to ignore the referendum result because they don't like it and realise that those who dont like it won't be voting Labour at the next election because they dont like that, because Labour opposes leaving the EU too. The Tory MPs certainly wont be changing to Boris if they dont want to leave the EU. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. Bet he isn't if the referendum result is to stay. If it's Leave and he tries to ignore it, he'll be removed. There's easily enough MPs who wouldn't accept that who will force a leadership election. The majority of MPs are in favour of remaining in. -- bert |
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message .. . In article , jjjuu78 wrote: "DJC" wrote in message ... On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough It won't be, you watch. he won't have a choice. Of course he does if enough Tory MPs decide to ignore the referendum result because they don't like it and realise that those who dont like it won't be voting Labour at the next election because they dont like that, because Labour opposes leaving the EU too. The Tory MPs certainly wont be changing to Boris if they dont want to leave the EU. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. Bet he isn't if the referendum result is to stay. If it's Leave and he tries to ignore it, he'll be removed. Not when there is an overwhelming majority of Tory MPs who dont want Britain to leave. There's easily enough MPs who wouldn't accept that who will force a leadership election. Yes, but not enough to replace Cameron with Boris or any of the others in favour of leaving, because the bulk of the Tory MPs dont want Britain to leave. |
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"jjjuu78" wrote in message ... **** snipped Do **** off Wodney. |
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"jjjuu78" wrote in message ... "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:23:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. He would not survive a Brexit victory and will have no choice but to hoof it. In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. Just look at the lemmings leave the sinking ship if they called it wrong. tim |
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"jjjuu78" wrote in message ... "DJC" wrote in message ... On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough It won't be, you watch. he won't have a choice. Of course he does if enough Tory MPs decide to ignore the referendum result because they don't like it and realise that those who dont like it won't be voting Labour at the next election because they dont like that, because Labour opposes leaving the EU too. The Tory MPs certainly wont be changing to Boris if they dont want to leave the EU. the MPs don't get the choice they whittle the candidates down to two and the membership chooses. The chances of there being two Remain candidates on that ballot are slim, so the only way to avoid Boris is for the Remain MPs to rally around a compromise Leave candidate tim |
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Keep it simple - it is not about "getting back" at Cameron. It is about whether we should continue to be part of the EU. |
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On 19/06/2016 23:01, jjjuu78 wrote:
Yes, but not enough to replace Cameron with Boris or any of the others in favour of leaving, because the bulk of the Tory MPs dont want Britain to leave. I not convinced they don't. I suspect that there are a lot who are gambling on Remain winning and want to be on the winning side for the sake of their careers rather than because of any conviction. It will be interesting to see how many suddenly discover that they've been Eurosceptic all along if Leave wins. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On 19/06/16 21:56, DJC wrote:
On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. Depends if there's enough will in the ToryParty to stab him in the back. -- "Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will let them." |
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On 19/06/16 22:04, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:56:51 +0100, DJC wrote: If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. I have nightmares about who his replacement would be. Osbourne's a coke head, May's a female Hitler and I don't know what the **** Boris is. Boris is Boris. A clever politician with just enough nous to realise there's more to politics than winning elections. I'd pick Boris, because I think he is smart enough to put some smart people round him, and actually do something. I am more than slightly impressed with many of the 'Leave' team. -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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On 19/06/16 22:12, polygonum wrote:
On 19/06/2016 22:04, Cursitor Doom wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:56:51 +0100, DJC wrote: If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. I have nightmares about who his replacement would be. Osbourne's a coke head, May's a female Hitler and I don't know what the **** Boris is. A Turk. Thought he was hungarian? -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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On 19/06/16 23:01, jjjuu78 wrote:
Not when there is an overwhelming majority of Tory MPs who dont want Britain to leave. You have no evidence of that. There is only an overwhelming majority of Tory MPs who *say* they dont want Britain to leave. If this campaign has done anything, it should have showed you how selfish and unprincipled politicians are when it comes to their own personal gravy trains*. I can assure you that if the vote is Brexit, a majority of Tories will suddenly find that after all they only said that out of solidarity to the current leadership, and they really wanted out all along, and here are their CVS and can they have a job in the new Eurosceptic cabinet... *Except the UKIP and other Eurosceptic MEPS, who are essentially asking you to vote them out of their jobs. -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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On 20/06/16 10:27, Roger Mills wrote:
On 19/06/2016 23:01, jjjuu78 wrote: Yes, but not enough to replace Cameron with Boris or any of the others in favour of leaving, because the bulk of the Tory MPs dont want Britain to leave. I not convinced they don't. I suspect that there are a lot who are gambling on Remain winning and want to be on the winning side for the sake of their careers rather than because of any conviction. It will be interesting to see how many suddenly discover that they've been Eurosceptic all along if Leave wins. +1 -- €œIt is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.€ Thomas Sowell |
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On 20/06/16 10:49, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:36:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 19/06/16 22:12, polygonum wrote: On 19/06/2016 22:04, Cursitor Doom wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:56:51 +0100, DJC wrote: If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. I have nightmares about who his replacement would be. Osbourne's a coke head, May's a female Hitler and I don't know what the **** Boris is. A Turk. Thought he was hungarian? http://tinyurl.com/hwoykzj er...a bit mixed, there's even a bit of Turkish in him. LOL. Bloody immigrants, get everywhere! :-) Blimey Christian-Jewish-Muslim Well they say mongrels make the best pets. -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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tim... wrote: In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Have you asked them all, or simply guessing? They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. It's rather obvious Corbyn isn't 100% in favour of the EU either. Which is actually rather honest compared to the black and white approaches of both sides. -- *Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"tim..." wrote in message ... "jjjuu78" wrote in message ... "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:23:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. He would not survive a Brexit victory and will have no choice but to hoof it. In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Wrong. They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. More lies. Just look at the lemmings leave the sinking ship if they called it wrong. Lemming dont leave sinking ships, they pour over cliff tops. |
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"tim..." wrote in message ... "jjjuu78" wrote in message ... "DJC" wrote in message ... On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough It won't be, you watch. he won't have a choice. Of course he does if enough Tory MPs decide to ignore the referendum result because they don't like it and realise that those who dont like it won't be voting Labour at the next election because they dont like that, because Labour opposes leaving the EU too. The Tory MPs certainly wont be changing to Boris if they dont want to leave the EU. the MPs don't get the choice they whittle the candidates down to two So they get the choice. and the membership chooses. The chances of there being two Remain candidates on that ballot are slim, We'll see... so the only way to avoid Boris is for the Remain MPs to rally around a compromise Leave candidate And that is what they will do give that the big majority of them want to remain. |
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message .. . In article , jjjuu78 wrote: "Tim Streater" wrote in message ... If it's Leave and he tries to ignore it, he'll be removed. Not when there is an overwhelming majority of Tory MPs who dont want Britain to leave. There's easily enough MPs who wouldn't accept that who will force a leadership election. Yes, but not enough to replace Cameron with Boris or any of the others in favour of leaving, because the bulk of the Tory MPs dont want Britain to leave. Dear oh Dear Woddles, you really don't know your arse from a hole in the ground. We'll see... 1) There's enough to force a leadership election Yes. 2) The rules prevent Cameron from standing again Irrelevant to who is likely to replace him. (unlike Labour, which is what makes getting rid of Jezza so hard) 3) Of the top two candidates in the run-off, one would be bound to be Boris or Gove We'll see... - and it's a secret ballot. 4) The Tory Party membership then gets to choose between the top two Yes. a largely Eurosceptic set of people. Even sillier than you usually manage. Simples. Wrong, as always. |
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On Monday, 20 June 2016 09:10:33 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
Just look at the lemmings leave the sinking ship if they called it wrong. tim I didn't think lemmings lived on ships. |
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On Monday, 20 June 2016 11:43:02 UTC+1, jjjuu78 wrote:
"tim..." wrote in message ... "jjjuu78" wrote in message ... "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:23:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. He would not survive a Brexit victory and will have no choice but to hoof it. In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Wrong. They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. More lies. Just look at the lemmings leave the sinking ship if they called it wrong. Lemming dont leave sinking ships, they pour over cliff tops. Only in disney films |
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 03:55:51 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 20 June 2016 09:10:33 UTC+1, tim... wrote: Just look at the lemmings leave the sinking ship if they called it wrong. tim I didn't think lemmings lived on ships. They may live in Lemmington which is a long way from the sea. -- Jim S |
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"Roger Mills" wrote in message ... On 19/06/2016 23:01, jjjuu78 wrote: Yes, but not enough to replace Cameron with Boris or any of the others in favour of leaving, because the bulk of the Tory MPs dont want Britain to leave. I not convinced they don't. Cameron wouldnt have had a referendum if he didnt know that they dont. I suspect that there are a lot who are gambling on Remain winning And I bet that gamble pays off. and want to be on the winning side for the sake of their careers rather than because of any conviction. Yes, there are certainly some like that, but not enough to matter. It will be interesting to see how many suddenly discover that they've been Eurosceptic all along if Leave wins. Leave won't, you watch. |
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On 20/06/2016 11:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , wrote: In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Have you asked them all, or simply guessing? Asked them when? If you ask them *after* as Brexit vote you'll likely get a different answer from asking them now. They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. It's rather obvious Corbyn isn't 100% in favour of the EU either. Which is actually rather honest compared to the black and white approaches of both sides. I don't think it *is* honest. I think he really wants OUT but daren't say so. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/06/16 21:56, DJC wrote: On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. Depends if there's enough will in the ToryParty to stab him in the back. It's the Tory party, to quote Churchill, "the oposition are in front of me, the enemy are behind me"! I'd give Camoron 10 minutes max if Leave can win. Incidentally, I'm puzzled by the opinion polls. These all show 50/50, but the link here has very dfferent numbers:- http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...erons-11496039 |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , wrote: In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Have you asked them all, or simply guessing? They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. It's rather obvious Corbyn isn't 100% in favour of the EU either. Which is actually rather honest compared to the black and white approaches of both sides. But not honest enough to declare his position? |
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whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 20 June 2016 09:10:33 UTC+1, tim... wrote: Just look at the lemmings leave the sinking ship if they called it wrong. tim I didn't think lemmings lived on ships. They've decided to become migrants! |
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On 19/06/2016 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If he was really smart, he'd threaten to place Boris in charge of the EU negotiations. |
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On 20/06/16 11:42, jjjuu78 wrote:
"tim..." wrote in message ... "jjjuu78" wrote in message ... "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:23:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. He would not survive a Brexit victory and will have no choice but to hoof it. In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Wrong. They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. More lies. Just look at the lemmings leave the sinking ship if they called it wrong. Lemming dont leave sinking ships, they pour over cliff tops. To the lay observer, rats look very simile to lemmings -- "I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently. This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and all women" |
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On 20/06/16 12:25, Roger Mills wrote:
On 20/06/2016 11:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , wrote: In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Have you asked them all, or simply guessing? Asked them when? If you ask them *after* as Brexit vote you'll likely get a different answer from asking them now. They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. It's rather obvious Corbyn isn't 100% in favour of the EU either. Which is actually rather honest compared to the black and white approaches of both sides. I don't think it *is* honest. I think he really wants OUT but daren't say so. You don't go up against the Godfather unless you have real guts... -- "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) " Alan Sokal |
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On 20/06/16 12:35, Capitol wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 19/06/16 21:56, DJC wrote: On 19/06/16 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If the margin's big enough he won't have a choice. He'll probably be out by conference season in any case. Depends if there's enough will in the ToryParty to stab him in the back. It's the Tory party, to quote Churchill, "the oposition are in front of me, the enemy are behind me"! I'd give Camoron 10 minutes max if Leave can win. Incidentally, I'm puzzled by the opinion polls. These all show 50/50, but the link here has very dfferent numbers:- http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...erons-11496039 Its important that people think its 50/50 to get a very big turnout. To have 'remain' ahead would mean lots of soft remainers would stay in bed. That's why the leave vote has to be whittled down from being ahead, otherwise people would say 'well its a foregone conclusion' People have to be made to feel that the last vote counts but that remain is slightly ahead. Frankly, I've been around a few decades, and one thing I think I can say with certainty is that I have never seen such a bitter nasty and dirty campaign as has been fought by the remainers. And the EU, and the 'liberal press' Irrespective of whether Britain is better in or out, the EU is absolutely no longer an organisation I want to be part of, and the likes of the beeb, the labour party, Camerons 'inners' and the MSM have gained nothing but UTTER contempt from me. Anything that gets us out from under these complete and utter ****S is worth voting for. -- "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) " Alan Sokal |
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On 20/06/16 12:37, Capitol wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , wrote: In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Have you asked them all, or simply guessing? They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. It's rather obvious Corbyn isn't 100% in favour of the EU either. Which is actually rather honest compared to the black and white approaches of both sides. But not honest enough to declare his position? He is a labour politician. What else do you expect? In the EU, all national politics is about is winning elections and being a (well paid) politician. Actually governing the country doesn't come into it. -- "I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently. This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and all women" |
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Roger Mills wrote: On 20/06/2016 11:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , wrote: In the IMO unlikely event of a Brexit victory, with the bulk of Tory MPs not in favour of leaving the EU, The bulk of the Tory MPs are not in favour of staying in the EU Have you asked them all, or simply guessing? Asked them when? If you ask them *after* as Brexit vote you'll likely get a different answer from asking them now. They are only saying that because they think Remain will win and they want to back the winning side so that they will be rewarded with plum jobs afterwards. It's rather obvious Corbyn isn't 100% in favour of the EU either. Which is actually rather honest compared to the black and white approaches of both sides. I don't think it *is* honest. I think he really wants OUT but daren't say so. Nothing unusual in thinking people secretly agree with you even when it's obvious to all others they don't. Rather the same as starting a speech 'I think I'm speaking for everyone when I say... -- *Happiness is seeing your mother-in-law on a milk carton Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Cameron says he'll stay...
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Fredxxx wrote: On 19/06/2016 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: In the event of a Brexit victory That's a cunning stunt. Half the reason for voting brexit gone at a stroke. If he was really smart, he'd threaten to place Boris in charge of the EU negotiations. Absolutely. Way to make them last forever. Changing his mind overnight. Every day. -- *If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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