Going the same way as Bliar.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21763345

Do you think its the house. Its a bit like one of those possession movies
where after a while in the house some people turned strange and weird..
Now who will write the screenplay?
Brian

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"harry" wrote in message
...
Going the same way as Bliar.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21763345

On 14/03/2013 08:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Do you think its the house. Its a bit like one of those possession movies
where after a while in the house some people turned strange and weird..
Now who will write the screenplay?
Brian

But didn't Blair actually live in 11? Something to do with number of
bedrooms?

--
Rod

On 14/03/2013 08:22, polygonum wrote:
On 14/03/2013 08:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Do you think its the house. Its a bit like one of those possession movies
where after a while in the house some people turned strange and weird..
Now who will write the screenplay?
Brian

But didn't Blair actually live in 11? Something to do with number of
bedrooms?

All those that saw the program by Jon Snow on Syria will realise that
the politicians know as little as the rest of us peasants as to why
there is fighting there, and why interference by the West in any form
whatsoever will only exasperate the problem. Oh well, what's new?

harry wrote

Going the same way as Bliar.

Nothing like Blair in fact.

Even the yanks aren't proposing to do
anything like what the shrub did either.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21763345

Brian Gaff wrote

Do you think its the house.

Unlikely, we never did see anyone else decide to
blow it to bits after that Falkes fella tried it in there.

Its a bit like one of those possession movies where after a
while in the house some people turned strange and weird..

More like that saying about power corrupts etc...

Now who will write the screenplay?

That Satan fella, the one with the horns and long tail...

"harry" wrote in message
...
Going the same way as Bliar.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21763345

On Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:57:55 AM UTC, Broadback wrote:
On 14/03/2013 08:22, polygonum wrote:

On 14/03/2013 08:12, Brian Gaff wrote:

Do you think its the house. Its a bit like one of those possession movies

where after a while in the house some people turned strange and weird..

Now who will write the screenplay?

Brian



But didn't Blair actually live in 11? Something to do with number of

bedrooms?



All those that saw the program by Jon Snow on Syria will realise that

the politicians know as little as the rest of us peasants as to why

there is fighting there, and why interference by the West in any form

whatsoever will only exasperate the problem. Oh well, what's new?



exacerbate ?


Sorry !

On 14/03/2013 08:57, Broadback wrote:
On 14/03/2013 08:22, polygonum wrote:
On 14/03/2013 08:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Do you think its the house. Its a bit like one of those possession
movies
where after a while in the house some people turned strange and weird..
Now who will write the screenplay?
Brian

But didn't Blair actually live in 11? Something to do with number of
bedrooms?

All those that saw the program by Jon Snow on Syria will realise that
the politicians know as little as the rest of us peasants as to why
there is fighting there, and why interference by the West in any form
whatsoever will only exasperate the problem. Oh well, what's new?

I watched that program on Syria, and I agree with what you say.

The actions of the west in both Afghanistan and Iraq have not changed a
lot of what happens in those countries, and it never will.

You have only to look at Northern Ireland as an example.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:22:02 +0000
polygonum wrote:

On 14/03/2013 08:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Do you think its the house. Its a bit like one of those possession
movies where after a while in the house some people turned strange
and weird.. Now who will write the screenplay?
Brian

But didn't Blair actually live in 11? Something to do with number of
bedrooms?


Yes, he and Brown switched houses. But there is supposed to be
a connecting door inside the building, so he could still emerge from
No. 10 for the photoshoots. It all probably helped Brown's belief that
he was destined for the PM job, only to be proved disastrously wrong
when he got it. The only thing I thank Blair for is that he kept Brown
out of that post for as long as he did.
--
Davey.

On 14/03/13 07:34, harry wrote:
Going the same way as Bliar.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21763345

meanwhile, the Greens are destroying Germany
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-888094.html

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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 14/03/13 08:57, Broadback wrote:
On 14/03/2013 08:22, polygonum wrote:
On 14/03/2013 08:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Do you think its the house. Its a bit like one of those possession
movies
where after a while in the house some people turned strange and weird..
Now who will write the screenplay?
Brian

But didn't Blair actually live in 11? Something to do with number of
bedrooms?

All those that saw the program by Jon Snow on Syria will realise that
the politicians know as little as the rest of us peasants as to why
there is fighting there, and why interference by the West in any form
whatsoever will only exasperate the problem. Oh well, what's new?


I think your spelling checker let you down,.

Try exacerbate.

--
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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 14/03/2013 09:52, Davey wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:22:02 +0000
polygonum wrote:

On 14/03/2013 08:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Do you think its the house. Its a bit like one of those possession
movies where after a while in the house some people turned strange
and weird.. Now who will write the screenplay?
Brian

But didn't Blair actually live in 11? Something to do with number of
bedrooms?


Yes, he and Brown switched houses. But there is supposed to be
a connecting door inside the building, so he could still emerge from
No. 10 for the photoshoots. It all probably helped Brown's belief that
he was destined for the PM job, only to be proved disastrously wrong
when he got it. The only thing I thank Blair for is that he kept Brown
out of that post for as long as he did.

That could actually contribute to a horror fantasy script...

--
Rod

On 14/03/13 10:20, polygonum wrote:
On 14/03/2013 09:52, Davey wrote:
The only thing I thank Blair for is that he kept Brown
out of that post for as long as he did.

That could actually contribute to a horror fantasy script...

Blair kept Brown out until he could clearly see that we were ruined
totally, at which point he handed the whole disaster to Brown and let
him carry the can.

Brown then handed it to the Tories..you wanna know WHY the limp dims
were rejected when they looked at at a labour coalition? No way did
Labour want to be where the coalition is now. Only Cameron was stupid
enough to want to be in power cleaning up after the biggest mess a
Labour government had ever made.




--
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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 14/03/2013 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Only Cameron was stupid enough to want to be in power cleaning up after
the biggest mess a Labour government had ever made.

He's stupid, mad, or dedicated. Or perhaps all.

Either he didn't see the mess coming.
Or he saw it coming, and thought he'd be able to fix it.
Or he saw it coming, and thought the best thing for the country would be
to take the **** rather than have more of the previous government.

Personally I'd go for mad. Specifically megalomania - which is common to
all politicians, as every single one of them has a delusional belief in
their own omnipotence. Add a touch of dedicated too.

Andy

On Thursday 14 March 2013 11:35 Andy Champ wrote in uk.d-i-y:

On 14/03/2013 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Only Cameron was stupid enough to want to be in power cleaning up after
the biggest mess a Labour government had ever made.

He's stupid, mad, or dedicated. Or perhaps all.

Either he didn't see the mess coming.
Or he saw it coming, and thought he'd be able to fix it.
Or he saw it coming, and thought the best thing for the country would be
to take the **** rather than have more of the previous government.

Personally I'd go for mad. Specifically megalomania - which is common to
all politicians, as every single one of them has a delusional belief in
their own omnipotence. Add a touch of dedicated too.

Andy

I proposed an new (well, maybe not) idea over supper the other day...

A "randomocracy". Bit like Jury service. Pull a few hundred people for 4
years and give them a ministerial job or assistant to minister job.
Including the PM.

Totally impractical I know (Jury service buggers up work, how would this
work?) but could it be better - or less worse?

No career politicians.

No buggering about voting.

Lobbying would be dealt a huge blow.


Would rely on the civil service to provide the technical analysis of each
realm of issue and advice on the expected impact of any given solution - but
that's their job, and I don't think they are bad at it...

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On 14/03/2013 14:31, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:35:04 +0000, Andy Champ wrote:

Personally I'd go for mad. Specifically megalomania - which is common to
all politicians, as every single one of them has a delusional belief in
their own omnipotence.

ITYM "importance"

Nope. Looked at the Wiki definition!

Andy

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Only Cameron was stupid
enough to want to be in power cleaning up after the biggest mess a
Labour government had ever made.

Strange the way such a small country of ours seems to have influenced
virtually the whole of the western world into a recession too?

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 14/03/2013 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/03/13 10:20, polygonum wrote:
On 14/03/2013 09:52, Davey wrote:
The only thing I thank Blair for is that he kept Brown
out of that post for as long as he did.

That could actually contribute to a horror fantasy script...

Blair kept Brown out until he could clearly see that we were ruined
totally, at which point he handed the whole disaster to Brown and let
him carry the can.

Brown then handed it to the Tories..you wanna know WHY the limp dims
were rejected when they looked at at a labour coalition? No way did
Labour want to be where the coalition is now. Only Cameron was
stupid enough to want to be in power cleaning up after the biggest
mess a Labour government had ever made.


It is amazing how Tory supporters have short memories:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6975536.stm

I would say Cameron deserved to inherit the mess.

In message , Andy Champ
writes
On 14/03/2013 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Only Cameron was stupid enough to want to be in power cleaning up after
the biggest mess a Labour government had ever made.

He's stupid, mad, or dedicated. Or perhaps all.

Either he didn't see the mess coming.
Or he saw it coming, and thought he'd be able to fix it.
Or he saw it coming, and thought the best thing for the country would
be to take the **** rather than have more of the previous government.

Personally I'd go for mad. Specifically megalomania - which is common
to all politicians, as every single one of them has a delusional belief
in their own omnipotence. Add a touch of dedicated too.

Andy
Everyone rises to their level of incompetence
--
bert

On Mar 14, 9:40*pm, Fredxx wrote:
On 14/03/2013 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:









On 14/03/13 10:20, polygonum wrote:
On 14/03/2013 09:52, Davey wrote:
The only thing I thank Blair for is that he kept Brown
out of that post for as long as he did.

That could actually contribute to a horror fantasy script...

Blair kept Brown out until he could clearly see that we were ruined
totally, at which point he handed the whole disaster to Brown and let
him carry the can.

Brown then handed it to the Tories..you wanna know WHY the limp dims
were rejected when they looked at at a labour coalition? No way did
Labour want to be where the coalition is now. Only Cameron was
stupid enough to want to be in power cleaning up after the biggest
mess a Labour government had ever made.

It is amazing how Tory supporters have short memories:
* *http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6975536.stm

I would say Cameron deserved to inherit the mess.

There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. The worst is yet to come.

The only thing scumbag socialists are good at is spending other
people's money.

In article
,
harry wrote:
There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than the
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.

The only thing scumbag socialists are good at is spending other
people's money.

And this lot don't? They're rather better at not spending their own and
their pal's money - that's all.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Mar 14, 9:19*am, "Rod Speed" wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Do you think its the house.

Unlikely, we never did see anyone else decide to
blow it to bits after that Falkes fella tried it in there.

Wrong house, idiot. It was the IRA.

MBQ

On 15/03/2013 10:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
harry wrote:
There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than the
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.


Nationalise the banks. Then, for example, public borrowing to support
mass construction with training in trades/professions. Degrowth.

The reasons are of interest but largely immaterial to the solution.

Rob

In article ,
RJH wrote:
On 15/03/2013 10:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
harry wrote:
There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than
the last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.


Nationalise the banks. Then, for example, public borrowing to support
mass construction with training in trades/professions. Degrowth.

The reasons are of interest but largely immaterial to the solution.

Cameron isn't capable of standing up to his pals in the press - so no
chance against the financial sector.

--
*How does Moses make his tea? Hebrews it.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Mar 15, 10:39*am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
In article
,
* *harry wrote:

There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. *They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. *The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than the
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.

The only thing scumbag socialists are good at is spending other
people's money.

And this lot don't? They're rather better at not spending their own and
their pal's money - that's all.

It was Brown and Bliar buggered up the economy. society and a lot of
people's lives.

"RJH" wrote in message ...

On 15/03/2013 10:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
harry wrote:
There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than
the
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.


Nationalise the banks. Then, for example, public borrowing to support mass
construction with training in trades/professions. Degrowth.

That's a good idea. We own the Royal Bank of Scotland. I don't know how much
the Taxpayer coughed up prior to ownership, but losses thus far are £5.5bn.

I'm not qualified to diagnose if Cameron is bonkers or whether he'll be
cured by a good dose of nuLab fiscal medicine ........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...y-rbs-collapse

In message , RJH
writes
On 15/03/2013 10:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
harry wrote:
There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than the
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.


Nationalise the banks. Then, for example, public borrowing to support
mass construction with training in trades/professions. Degrowth.

Yet another housing led boom -to be followed by yet another housing led
bust
The reasons are of interest but largely immaterial to the solution.

Rob

--
bert

"harry" wrote in message
...

On Mar 15, 10:39 am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
In article
,
harry wrote:

There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than
the
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.

The only thing scumbag socialists are good at is spending other
people's money.

And this lot don't? They're rather better at not spending their own and
their pal's money - that's all.

It was Brown and Bliar buggered up the economy. society and a lot of
people's lives.

He didn't bugger up everyone's lives. I can think of one person who did
rather well out of his Premiership and a £12m income suggests assets of
£100m:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...x-mystery.html
Yep a true patriot, makes you proud to be British. If anyone deserves a
state funeral, I trust Liechtenstein, Cayman Islands etc., gives him one.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 14/03/13 08:57, Broadback wrote:
All those that saw the program by Jon Snow on Syria will realise that
the politicians know as little as the rest of us peasants as to why
there is fighting there, and why interference by the West in any form
whatsoever will only exasperate the problem. Oh well, what's new?


I think your spelling checker let you down,.

Try exacerbate.

What fault with 'exasperate' would a spill chucker find?

On 15 Mar, 15:40, harry wrote:
On Mar 15, 10:39*am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:









In article
,
* *harry wrote:

There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. *They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. *The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than the
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.

The only thing scumbag socialists are good at is spending other
people's money.

And this lot don't? They're rather better at not spending their own and
their pal's money - that's all.

It was Brown and Bliar buggered up the economy. society and a lot of
people's lives.

Helped out by those eager for every bribe and incentive going,
regardless of technical merit, morality or long term sustainability.
UK citizens have a lot to answer for, too.

I've done quite well, but then I didn't rely on others, or spend what
I didn't have. My reward? I get to subsidise idiot schemes like the
FiT.

MBQ

On Mar 17, 10:58*am, "Man at B&Q" wrote:
On 15 Mar, 15:40, harry wrote:









On Mar 15, 10:39*am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article
,
* *harry wrote:

There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. *They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. *The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than the
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.

The only thing scumbag socialists are good at is spending other
people's money.

And this lot don't? They're rather better at not spending their own and
their pal's money - that's all.

It was Brown and Bliar buggered up the economy. society and a lot of
people's lives.

Helped out by those eager for every bribe and incentive going,
regardless of technical merit, morality or long term sustainability.
UK citizens have a lot to answer for, too.

I've done quite well, but then I didn't rely on others, or spend what
I didn't have. My reward? I get to subsidise idiot schemes like the
FiT.

MBQ

Only idiots think it is.

On 17/03/13 14:07, harry wrote:
I get to subsidise idiot schemes like the
FiT.

MBQ

Only idiots think it is.

Indeed, and you have to be the prime example...

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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:03:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 14/03/13 07:34, harry wrote:
Going the same way as Bliar.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21763345

Not that I know much about money markets,,,
but they did seem to have a good week after Kerry and Cameron
committed to a harder line with Syria,,..?

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


meanwhile, the Greens are destroying Germany
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...ewable-energy-
policy-takes-toll-on-nature-conservation-a-888094.html

I Agree,, what an appalling state of affairs ,,,

There must be more to it

I found some links on German energy security.....

http://www.usubc.org/site/pipeline-p...pean-security-
and-russia-s-natural-gas-supply-disruption

http://netrightdaily.com/2013/03/ger...gy-disaster-a-
cautionary-tale-for-world-leaders/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-shown-by-eon-
closing-3-year-old-plant-energy.html

..........................

Germany requested gold repatriation from usa,,
drip drip drip,,, seven years,,maybe ....

.......

I'm personally a tad worried about where higher education is going:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11832373

In essence, it's looking attractive, both financially and from a point of
travel/interest/being different to do a degree in the US.

With the cost of a BA/BSc running at 9k per year in England just for the
fees alone, I think a lot of future undergrads are going to:

1) Become rather picky - at they should at those rates;

2) Seriously consider another country, with the US being an obvious candiate
as it's English speaking.

Not just talking about trying to hit MIT, Berkley or Stanford - if you are
destined for a middle of the road but decent enough uni here, or you could
pick a lesser known, but decent one in somewhere sunny and cool in the US,
then why not...

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On Mar 17, 6:09*pm, Tim Watts wrote:
I'm personally a tad worried about where higher education is going:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11832373

In essence, it's looking attractive, both financially and from a point of
travel/interest/being different to do a degree in the US.

With the cost of a BA/BSc running at 9k per year in England just for the
fees alone, I think a lot of future undergrads are going to:

1) Become rather picky - at they should at those rates;

2) Seriously consider another country, with the US being an obvious candiate
as it's English speaking.

Not just talking about trying to hit MIT, Berkley or Stanford - if you are
destined for a middle of the road but decent enough uni here, or you could
pick a lesser known, but decent one in somewhere sunny and cool in the US,
then why not...


You think education's free in the USA?

On Monday 18 March 2013 07:05 harry wrote in uk.d-i-y:

On Mar 17, 6:09 pm, Tim Watts wrote:
I'm personally a tad worried about where higher education is going:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11832373

In essence, it's looking attractive, both financially and from a point of
travel/interest/being different to do a degree in the US.

With the cost of a BA/BSc running at 9k per year in England just for the
fees alone, I think a lot of future undergrads are going to:

1) Become rather picky - at they should at those rates;

2) Seriously consider another country, with the US being an obvious
candiate as it's English speaking.

Not just talking about trying to hit MIT, Berkley or Stanford - if you
are destined for a middle of the road but decent enough uni here, or you
could pick a lesser known, but decent one in somewhere sunny and cool in
the US, then why not...


You think education's free in the USA?

WTF are you talking about?

Of course it's not free, and it not free here either. That's the entire
point. It's now getting so expensive here that people are seriously looking
at whether to give their hard earned debt to a British University or a
foreign one.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:05:15 -0700, harry wrote:
2) Seriously consider another country, with the US being an obvious
candiate as it's English speaking.

Not just talking about trying to hit MIT, Berkley or Stanford - if you
are destined for a middle of the road but decent enough uni here, or
you could pick a lesser known, but decent one in somewhere sunny and
cool in the US, then why not...


You think education's free in the USA?

Typically a little more expensive than 9k/yr, I think, not including any
accomodation fees.

cheers

Jules

On Mar 18, 1:44*pm, Jules Richardson
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:05:15 -0700, harry wrote:
2) Seriously consider another country, with the US being an obvious
candiate as it's English speaking.

Not just talking about trying to hit MIT, Berkley or Stanford - if you
are destined for a middle of the road but decent enough uni here, or
you could pick a lesser known, but decent one in somewhere sunny and
cool in the US, then why not...

You think education's free in the USA?

Typically a little more expensive than 9k/yr, I think, not including any
accomodation fees.

cheers

Jules

By the time they graduate, $9k will be pocket money anyway.

Andy Champ writes:

On 14/03/2013 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Only Cameron was stupid enough to want to be in power cleaning up after
the biggest mess a Labour government had ever made.

He's stupid, mad, or dedicated. Or perhaps all.

Either he didn't see the mess coming.
Or he saw it coming, and thought he'd be able to fix it.
Or he saw it coming, and thought the best thing for the country would be
to take the **** rather than have more of the previous government.

Personally I'd go for mad. Specifically megalomania - which is common to
all politicians, as every single one of them has a delusional belief in
their own omnipotence. Add a touch of dedicated too.

I don't think politicians are in the least stupid. If you doubt that,
check up, as far as that is possible for ordinary people, on the
difference between their income and net worth *before* entering
Parliament and the same figures afterwards.

Not at all impressed by He Who Shouts, though.

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All that is gold does not glister / Not all who wander are lost

harry writes:

On Mar 15, 10:39=A0am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
In article
,
=A0 =A0harry wrote:

There's no magic wand/bullet.
Bliar/Brown fecked up our economy. =A0They left no stone unturned.
It will take a decade to fix it. =A0The worst is yet to come.

Of course it is. This lot have no more idea on how to sort things than th=
e
last lot. Because the reasons are outside their control.

The only thing scumbag socialists are good at is spending other
people's money.

And this lot don't? They're rather better at not spending their own and
their pal's money - that's all.

It was Brown and Bliar buggered up the economy. society and a lot of
people's lives.

And now He Who Shouts is carrying on the tradition.


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Windmill, Use t m i l l
J.R.R. Tolkien:- @ O n e t e l . c o m
All that is gold does not glister / Not all who wander are lost