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Most people are more careful then me. I just broke the gearbox of my neighbour's electric saw.
On Mon, 09 May 2016 08:25:59 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote: Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. Brian -- If you were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs, you may be a Muslim. |
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On Sun, 08 May 2016 23:52:27 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 22:47:52 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 22:34:07 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 17:29:22 +0100, F Murtz wrote: Richard wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news How many of you are happy to lend tools to neighbours? Doubt whether my neighbour would want to borrow you. I do do it but it takes time to get back,but it does not matter I get it back if I need it. Odd, I don't know anyone round here who wouldn't return something immediately they've finished, Least half of those that borrow stuff can take a while to return it. With stuff I'm not actually using, I often do say that there is no rush to return it, whenever that is convenient for them etc. That is inviting them to forget. I don't see them forget very often at all. and get very apologetic if they forget and give it back the next day. Can't say I have ever had that. Some people are overly polite. True, but none of those that borrow stuff from me are like that, maybe they are too polite to ask. I used to have one of my Italian neighbours that used to borrow garden tools quite a bit. Once the ****ing great Alsatian grew up a bit, you could see the neighbour almost turn and run when the dog started barking at him when he knocked on the patio door with the dog inside the house. He stopped coming after a while presumably because of the dog. I fail to see why people are scared of dogs. Yeah, it's a completely irrational fear most of the time. But most don't have a clue about how dogs operate and so don't realise what is safe and what isnt. I've had two dogs attempt to bite me. One was a stupid little thing I knew couldn't hurt me, I kicked it into the flowerbed when it bit my ankle. The other was a huge thing which looked friendly and I tried to stroke it. It tried to grab my hand so I simply moved my hand out of the way. -- "Last night I played a blank tape at full blast. The mime next door went nuts." |
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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news I've had two dogs attempt to bite me. One was a stupid little thing I knew couldn't hurt me, I kicked it into the flowerbed when it bit my ankle. The other was a huge thing which looked friendly and I tried to stroke it. It tried to grab my hand so I simply moved my hand out of the way. Pity they didn't finish the job. |
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T i m wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. Yup, like my Dad used to say, 'Never a lender or borrower be' (and I don't think he meant the 'little people') and if you did ever lend anything, do so on the assumption you would never get it back or back in the same condition. That saying is for money. Yes. Now, with some tools that might not matter as they could be old, or 'spares' / whatever, but I bet most of us have some tool they simply wouldn't lend out for some reason (be it sentimental, irreplaceable, expensive or somesuch)? But there are people I will lend stuff to on the basis I know they will either repair or replace and without me having to ask them to. I assume everyone will do that. I don't. If they don't, they aren't worth knowing in the future. That's mad, particularly with the less competant people. It's like the bikers thing re lending bikes ... 'you drop it you buy it'. ;-) I have actually gone out and bought new tools (an angle grinder was the latest case) to lend to a neighbour because I didn't want to risk getting my good grinders lost or damaged. If it does come back and is still ok then I get another angle grinder and will have done a neighbour a favour, win win (as you can't have too many angle grinders eh)? And if it comes back broken, you replace it under warranty. Not always possible with the worst of the misuse. |
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Mr Macaw wrote
Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. |
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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 23:52:27 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 22:47:52 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 22:34:07 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 17:29:22 +0100, F Murtz wrote: Richard wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news How many of you are happy to lend tools to neighbours? Doubt whether my neighbour would want to borrow you. I do do it but it takes time to get back,but it does not matter I get it back if I need it. Odd, I don't know anyone round here who wouldn't return something immediately they've finished, Least half of those that borrow stuff can take a while to return it. With stuff I'm not actually using, I often do say that there is no rush to return it, whenever that is convenient for them etc. That is inviting them to forget. I don't see them forget very often at all. and get very apologetic if they forget and give it back the next day. Can't say I have ever had that. Some people are overly polite. True, but none of those that borrow stuff from me are like that, maybe they are too polite to ask. I used to have one of my Italian neighbours that used to borrow garden tools quite a bit. Once the ****ing great Alsatian grew up a bit, you could see the neighbour almost turn and run when the dog started barking at him when he knocked on the patio door with the dog inside the house. He stopped coming after a while presumably because of the dog. I fail to see why people are scared of dogs. Yeah, it's a completely irrational fear most of the time. But most don't have a clue about how dogs operate and so don't realise what is safe and what isnt. I've had two dogs attempt to bite me. One was a stupid little thing I knew couldn't hurt me, I kicked it into the flowerbed when it bit my ankle. The other was a huge thing which looked friendly and I tried to stroke it. It tried to grab my hand so I simply moved my hand out of the way. I've had two succeed. The first one was when I was about 6 when the circus was in town and me and my mates were walking about the trailers and caravans looking that lions in their cages on wheels. Didn't even notice the dog was under one of the trailers until it bit me. The other one was when I was building the house, the back neighbour's kid who was a hell of a mechanic even as a school kid had a very neurotic little foxy that snapped out of fright. |
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On Tuesday, 10 May 2016 23:40:02 UTC+1, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2016 23:52:27 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 22:47:52 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 22:34:07 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 17:29:22 +0100, F Murtz wrote: Richard wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news How many of you are happy to lend tools to neighbours? Doubt whether my neighbour would want to borrow you. I do do it but it takes time to get back,but it does not matter I get it back if I need it. Odd, I don't know anyone round here who wouldn't return something immediately they've finished, Least half of those that borrow stuff can take a while to return it.. With stuff I'm not actually using, I often do say that there is no rush to return it, whenever that is convenient for them etc. That is inviting them to forget. I don't see them forget very often at all. and get very apologetic if they forget and give it back the next day. Can't say I have ever had that. Some people are overly polite. True, but none of those that borrow stuff from me are like that, maybe they are too polite to ask. I used to have one of my Italian neighbours that used to borrow garden tools quite a bit. Once the ****ing great Alsatian grew up a bit, you could see the neighbour almost turn and run when the dog started barking at him when he knocked on the patio door with the dog inside the house. He stopped coming after a while presumably because of the dog. I fail to see why people are scared of dogs. Yeah, it's a completely irrational fear most of the time. But most don't have a clue about how dogs operate and so don't realise what is safe and what isnt. I've had two dogs attempt to bite me. One was a stupid little thing I knew couldn't hurt me, I kicked it into the flowerbed when it bit my ankle. The other was a huge thing which looked friendly and I tried to stroke it. It tried to grab my hand so I simply moved my hand out of the way. And then you got married...... That is the punch line isn't it. |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:27:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:
Mr Macaw wrote Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. Buy a noticeboard. -- Why is the front of an aeroplane called a cockpit? If you have female pilots do you call it a pussypit? |
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 15:49:54 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 May 2016 23:40:02 UTC+1, Mr Macaw wrote: On Sun, 08 May 2016 23:52:27 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 22:47:52 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 22:34:07 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sun, 08 May 2016 17:29:22 +0100, F Murtz wrote: Richard wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news How many of you are happy to lend tools to neighbours? Doubt whether my neighbour would want to borrow you. I do do it but it takes time to get back,but it does not matter I get it back if I need it. Odd, I don't know anyone round here who wouldn't return something immediately they've finished, Least half of those that borrow stuff can take a while to return it. With stuff I'm not actually using, I often do say that there is no rush to return it, whenever that is convenient for them etc. That is inviting them to forget. I don't see them forget very often at all. and get very apologetic if they forget and give it back the next day. Can't say I have ever had that. Some people are overly polite. True, but none of those that borrow stuff from me are like that, maybe they are too polite to ask. I used to have one of my Italian neighbours that used to borrow garden tools quite a bit. Once the ****ing great Alsatian grew up a bit, you could see the neighbour almost turn and run when the dog started barking at him when he knocked on the patio door with the dog inside the house. He stopped coming after a while presumably because of the dog. I fail to see why people are scared of dogs. Yeah, it's a completely irrational fear most of the time. But most don't have a clue about how dogs operate and so don't realise what is safe and what isnt. I've had two dogs attempt to bite me. One was a stupid little thing I knew couldn't hurt me, I kicked it into the flowerbed when it bit my ankle. The other was a huge thing which looked friendly and I tried to stroke it. It tried to grab my hand so I simply moved my hand out of the way. And then you got married...... That is the punch line isn't it. To the dog or the owner? -- Why was the guitar teacher arrested? For fingering A minor. |
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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:27:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: Mr Macaw wrote Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. Buy a noticeboard. I put it in the database, there's a field for who it's currently lent to and when that happened when it isn't likely to be coming back quickly because I have said that I have no plans to use it any time soon. Mainly so that if I need to use it myself, I can check who currently has it. I lent my car to one of my neighbours yesterday and didn't bother to record that because I would remember who I had leant it to if it wasn't there when I wanted to use it. |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:27:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: Mr Macaw wrote Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. Buy a noticeboard. I put it in the database, there's a field for who it's currently lent to and when that happened when it isn't likely to be coming back quickly because I have said that I have no plans to use it any time soon. Mainly so that if I need to use it myself, I can check who currently has it. I lent my car to one of my neighbours yesterday and didn't bother to record that because I would remember who I had leant it to if it wasn't there when I wanted to use it. LMFAO At least you 2 pricks are typing to each other, just as it should be. You really need your own ng, ******s cooperative. |
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On Fri, 13 May 2016 11:38:24 +0100, superdick wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:27:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: Mr Macaw wrote Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. Buy a noticeboard. I put it in the database, there's a field for who it's currently lent to and when that happened when it isn't likely to be coming back quickly because I have said that I have no plans to use it any time soon. Mainly so that if I need to use it myself, I can check who currently has it. I lent my car to one of my neighbours yesterday and didn't bother to record that because I would remember who I had leant it to if it wasn't there when I wanted to use it. LMFAO At least you 2 pricks are typing to each other, just as it should be. You really need your own ng, ******s cooperative. You are talking about yourself, judging by your name and use of language. -- Connecticut police are investigating a string of shootings where clues are reportedly contained in a rap CD. They are also questioning Bob Marley about the shooting of a sheriff. |
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On Fri, 13 May 2016 06:53:47 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:27:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: Mr Macaw wrote Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. Buy a noticeboard. I put it in the database, there's a field for who it's currently lent to and when that happened when it isn't likely to be coming back quickly because I have said that I have no plans to use it any time soon. Mainly so that if I need to use it myself, I can check who currently has it. You must lend a lot of stuff to bother with a database. I don't have more than 1 or 2 things lent at a time. I lent my car to one of my neighbours yesterday and didn't bother to record that because I would remember who I had leant it to if it wasn't there when I wanted to use it. -- "O'Ryan," asked the druggist, "did that mudpack I gave you improve your wife's appearance?" "It did, surely," replied O'Ryan, "but it keeps fallin' off!" |
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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 13 May 2016 06:53:47 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:27:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: Mr Macaw wrote Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. Buy a noticeboard. I put it in the database, there's a field for who it's currently lent to and when that happened when it isn't likely to be coming back quickly because I have said that I have no plans to use it any time soon. Mainly so that if I need to use it myself, I can check who currently has it. You must lend a lot of stuff to bother with a database. I have the database for other reasons, usage notes, purchase details so it reminds me when the warranty is about to run out, maintenance history etc etc etc. The lent to data is just another couple of fields, who and when it was lent to. I don't have more than 1 or 2 things lent at a time. I normally have rather more than that and some stuff can be away for months too. I currently have a vice lent to someone who needs one and I have told him he can keep it until I find another at a garage sale and either sell him that one or the one he has been leant depending on what turns up. The youngest turk has just borrowed a very decent tripod and I will do the same thing with that if it turns out that he does use it quite a bit for youtube videos etc. Or it may just be something he gets sick of and doesn't need one of his own. He's very reliable about returning stuff that he has borrowed even if he had had it for 6 months using it spasmodically. I lent my car to one of my neighbours yesterday and didn't bother to record that because I would remember who I had leant it to if it wasn't there when I wanted to use it. |
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On Sat, 14 May 2016 04:58:26 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 13 May 2016 06:53:47 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:27:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: Mr Macaw wrote Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. Buy a noticeboard. I put it in the database, there's a field for who it's currently lent to and when that happened when it isn't likely to be coming back quickly because I have said that I have no plans to use it any time soon. Mainly so that if I need to use it myself, I can check who currently has it. You must lend a lot of stuff to bother with a database. I have the database for other reasons, usage notes, purchase details so it reminds me when the warranty is about to run out, maintenance history etc etc etc. Sounds a bit over the top. That's the sort of thing you do if you run a company with a lot of assets to track. -- A mute walks into a drugstore (chemist) to buy package of prophylactics. Unable to tell the pharmacist what he wants, he puts a $5.00 bill on the counter, unzips his pants, and puts his dick on the counter and points to it. The pharmacist watches, unzips his own fly, puts his dick on the counter, puts a ruler down next to both of them, points out that his is 1 inch longer and takes the mute's $5.00 bill. |
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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 14 May 2016 04:58:26 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 13 May 2016 06:53:47 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:27:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: Mr Macaw wrote Tim Lamb wrote Brian Gaff wrote Lending anything is risky, as not everyone is as careful as you might be. I was standing behind a punter returning a heavy set of hub pullers. He pocketed his deposit refund and left. The counter man casually threw the tool across the desk and we both watched as one of the claws fell off having been temporarily re-attached. Then they were clearly faulty. Not necessarily, depends on how it got broken. My problem is remembering who has borrowed what and whether it was returned! You do own a pen and paper? Doesn't mean you can find the bit of paper when you need it. Buy a noticeboard. I put it in the database, there's a field for who it's currently lent to and when that happened when it isn't likely to be coming back quickly because I have said that I have no plans to use it any time soon. Mainly so that if I need to use it myself, I can check who currently has it. You must lend a lot of stuff to bother with a database. I have the database for other reasons, usage notes, purchase details so it reminds me when the warranty is about to run out, maintenance history etc etc etc. Sounds a bit over the top. Leaves any alternative approach for dead. That's the sort of thing you do if you run a company with a lot of assets to track. I'm not tracking anything, just organising the notes and details. |
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