I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was hoping to
use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the whole thing out.

It's a 1920's building. Piccy he

http://tinypic.com/m/jfyneq/2


If it's too hard to get the whole thing out, bearing in mind the
render, I'll just change the opening sash.


Any suggestions, please?

On 21/04/16 12:52, GB wrote:
I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was hoping to
use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the whole thing out.

It's a 1920's building. Piccy he

http://tinypic.com/m/jfyneq/2


If it's too hard to get the whole thing out, bearing in mind the render,
I'll just change the opening sash.


Any suggestions, please?





Lots of big rusty nails IME.

A demolition saw with a metal cutting blade will probably work, as might
a full sized hacksaw blade broken in half and fitted to a one ended
handle (can you still get those?)

On 21/04/2016 14:02, Tim Watts wrote:

demolition saw


I don't have one of those, but it sounds like an excuse to get a new
blade for the big angle grinder.

At the moment, I'm thinking of wimping out and getting the new sash,
plus filling the existing frame. About 10% of the effort for 90% of the
result.

On 21 Apr 2016, GB grunted:

I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.


I think by trying to remove it intact you're far more likely to end up
damaging the brickwork/render, and it's really not necessary. Just provide
the dimensions to the joiner.

I would cut through the frame at several points with an old panel saw, and
the chunks of frame should then be easy to prise out separately.

--
David

In message , GB
writes
I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.

Forgive me for not actually answering the question. When we had a
similar problem, a local joiner came to the house and repaired rotten
windows, replacing a lot of wood in the process. Superb job, invisible
afterwards, and no need to remove complete frames. Suggest you speak to
your local joiner before starting, and see what he advises.

--
Graeme

GB wrote:
I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to
remove the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably
intact to avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners
to get a new one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was hoping to
use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the whole thing
out.
It's a 1920's building. Piccy he

http://tinypic.com/m/jfyneq/2


If it's too hard to get the whole thing out, bearing in mind the
render, I'll just change the opening sash.


Any suggestions, please?

Measure the opening and get a frame made, it will take at least a week, so
don't take the old one out.
Expect it to cost twice as much as pvcu double glazed

In article , Phil L
wrote:
GB wrote:
I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was hoping to
use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the whole thing out.
It's a 1920's building. Piccy he

http://tinypic.com/m/jfyneq/2


If it's too hard to get the whole thing out, bearing in mind the
render, I'll just change the opening sash.


Any suggestions, please?

Measure the opening and get a frame made, it will take at least a week,
so don't take the old one out. Expect it to cost twice as much as pvcu
double glazed

There are firms specialising in fitting replacement timber windows.

Remember that if you replace a whole window, Building regs require it to be
double glazed with a relevant certificate.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

On 21/04/16 17:47, charles wrote:
In article , Phil L
wrote:
GB wrote:
I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was hoping to
use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the whole thing out.
It's a 1920's building. Piccy he

http://tinypic.com/m/jfyneq/2


If it's too hard to get the whole thing out, bearing in mind the
render, I'll just change the opening sash.


Any suggestions, please?

Measure the opening and get a frame made, it will take at least a week,
so don't take the old one out. Expect it to cost twice as much as pvcu
double glazed

There are firms specialising in fitting replacement timber windows.

Remember that if you replace a whole window, Building regs require it to be
double glazed with a relevant certificate.

not necessarily.

If the whole house has been certified to be OK without DG...


--
Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/04/16 17:47, charles wrote:
In article , Phil L
wrote:
GB wrote:
I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to
remove the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably
intact to avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local
joiners to get a new one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was
hoping to use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the
whole thing out. It's a 1920's building. Piccy he

http://tinypic.com/m/jfyneq/2


If it's too hard to get the whole thing out, bearing in mind the
render, I'll just change the opening sash.


Any suggestions, please?

Measure the opening and get a frame made, it will take at least a
week, so don't take the old one out. Expect it to cost twice as
much as pvcu double glazed

There are firms specialising in fitting replacement timber windows.

Remember that if you replace a whole window, Building regs require
it to be double glazed with a relevant certificate.

not necessarily.

If the whole house has been certified to be OK without DG...

Not to mention the fact that once it's installed, no one can say whether
it's been there 30 days or 30 years

GB wrote:

I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was hoping to
use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the whole thing out.

Absolutely no chance of getting it out in one piece.
It will have 6 inch nails. or 4/5 inch screws in it. The
putty/filler/etc will have filled in all the gaps, and make it very very
hard to get it out.
I've took loads of windows out, I'd say there has been less than 5 that
have come out without resorting to jemmys and saws.
Even when the top and bottom framing is cut in half, they can take ages
to get out.

--
Alan
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On 21/04/2016 19:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
not necessarily.

If the whole house has been certified to be OK without DG...

When we double glazed our old house we needed certs. I think it's law on
any new window.

Andy

Vir Campestris wrote:

On 21/04/2016 19:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
not necessarily.

If the whole house has been certified to be OK without DG...

When we double glazed our old house we needed certs. I think it's law on
any new window.

It is Building Regs Certification.
If the fitter is FENSA regsitered, they self-certify.
It is a Law, like Part P for electrical work, that is not enforced,
except in very rare extreme cases.
Even when selling a house, it is never a problem heving no completion
cert., you just buy an indemnity policy for less than £100 - far less
than the amount you save by going to a non-FENSA company, or DIYing the
windows.

--
Alan
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"A.Lee" Wrote in message:
Vir Campestris wrote:

On 21/04/2016 19:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
not necessarily.

If the whole house has been certified to be OK without DG...

When we double glazed our old house we needed certs. I think it's law on
any new window.

It is Building Regs Certification.
If the fitter is FENSA regsitered, they self-certify.
It is a Law, like Part P for electrical work, that is not enforced,
except in very rare extreme cases.
Even when selling a house, it is never a problem heving no completion
cert., you just buy an indemnity policy for less than £100 - far less
than the amount you save by going to a non-FENSA company, or DIYing the
windows

And for a single small window like this I don't imagine anyone
will notice or care anyway

--
--
Chris French

On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:02:19 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 21/04/16 12:52, GB wrote:
I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was hoping to
use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the whole thing out.

It's a 1920's building. Piccy he

http://tinypic.com/m/jfyneq/2


If it's too hard to get the whole thing out, bearing in mind the render,
I'll just change the opening sash.


Any suggestions, please?



Lots of big rusty nails IME.

A demolition saw with a metal cutting blade will probably work, as might
a full sized hacksaw blade broken in half and fitted to a one ended
handle (can you still get those?)

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand...Hacksaw/p17394
whole blade - pull, of course.

--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

On 22/04/16 08:37, PeterC wrote:
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:02:19 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 21/04/16 12:52, GB wrote:
I need to replace an old, rotten bathroom window. The plan is to remove
the entire window frame as neatly as possible, preferably intact to
avoid unnecessary mess. Then take it to the local joiners to get a new
one made.

What's likely to be holding it in place at the moment? I was hoping to
use the multitool to cut the fixings and just ease the whole thing out.

It's a 1920's building. Piccy he

http://tinypic.com/m/jfyneq/2


If it's too hard to get the whole thing out, bearing in mind the render,
I'll just change the opening sash.


Any suggestions, please?



Lots of big rusty nails IME.

A demolition saw with a metal cutting blade will probably work, as might
a full sized hacksaw blade broken in half and fitted to a one ended
handle (can you still get those?)

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand...Hacksaw/p17394
whole blade - pull, of course.

This was what I was thinking off (though snapping the blade is optional
there too):

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/523...saw_handle.jpg

On 21/04/16 23:32, Chris French wrote:
"A.Lee" Wrote in message:
Vir Campestris wrote:

On 21/04/2016 19:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
not necessarily.

If the whole house has been certified to be OK without DG...

When we double glazed our old house we needed certs. I think it's law on
any new window.

It is Building Regs Certification.
If the fitter is FENSA regsitered, they self-certify.
It is a Law, like Part P for electrical work, that is not enforced,
except in very rare extreme cases.
Even when selling a house, it is never a problem heving no completion
cert., you just buy an indemnity policy for less than £100 - far less
than the amount you save by going to a non-FENSA company, or DIYing the
windows

And for a single small window like this I don't imagine anyone
will notice or care anyway


And the only bit that carries a date is the DG panel. Which you (legally
without notification) replaced when it broke