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On 07/01/16 19:51, Mike Lander wrote:
Adrian wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 10:14:48 +0000, Mike Lander wrote: Once again, you DO NOT PAY TAX ON REVENUE. They are totally unrelated numbers. Like hell they are. The profit they pay tax on is the revenue less the deductible costs of doing business. You've never, ever run a business, have you? I have actually. Not very well, clearly. Very well indeed actually. OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% Riiiight. So you don't actually know the difference between revenue and profit... You're lying, again. He isn't you know.. I think it's a flat 30% of _profit_, but you seem determined to view it as a percentage of revenue, You're lying now. Well, that's answered one question, anyway. You are terminally stupid. All the governments that say that Apple, Amazon, Starbucks, News etc are profit shifting to low tax regimes are too eh ? ER no. Because they have a high turnover doesn't mean they make a taxable profit.. -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels |
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 19:51:39 +0000, Mike Lander wrote:
Once again, you DO NOT PAY TAX ON REVENUE. They are totally unrelated numbers. Like hell they are. The profit they pay tax on is the revenue less the deductible costs of doing business. You've never, ever run a business, have you? I have actually. Not very well, clearly. Very well indeed actually. Then you go on to say... OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% Riiiight. So you don't actually know the difference between revenue and profit... You're lying, again. So, here in the UK, when you were running your business so successfully, did you pay corporation tax on your revenue or your profit? |
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 09:58:20 +0000, Adrian wrote:
Once again, you DO NOT PAY TAX ON REVENUE. They are totally unrelated numbers. Like hell they are. The profit they pay tax on is the revenue less the deductible costs of doing business. You've never, ever run a business, have you? I have actually. Not very well, clearly. Very well indeed actually. Then you go on to say... OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% Riiiight. So you don't actually know the difference between revenue and profit... You're lying, again. So, here in the UK, when you were running your business so successfully, did you pay corporation tax on your revenue or your profit? And, while we're about it, what was your rough gross margin? |
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Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 19:51:39 +0000, Mike Lander wrote: Once again, you DO NOT PAY TAX ON REVENUE. They are totally unrelated numbers. Like hell they are. The profit they pay tax on is the revenue less the deductible costs of doing business. You've never, ever run a business, have you? I have actually. Not very well, clearly. Very well indeed actually. Then you go on to say... OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% Riiiight. So you don't actually know the difference between revenue and profit... You're lying, again. So, here in the UK, when you were running your business so successfully, did you pay corporation tax on your revenue or your profit? Obviously on the profit. But Apple clearly did not do that in Australia when the paid just 0.7% of their revenue in income tax and lied though their teeth about what their real profit was. |
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Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 09:58:20 +0000, Adrian wrote: Once again, you DO NOT PAY TAX ON REVENUE. They are totally unrelated numbers. Like hell they are. The profit they pay tax on is the revenue less the deductible costs of doing business. You've never, ever run a business, have you? I have actually. Not very well, clearly. Very well indeed actually. Then you go on to say... OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% Riiiight. So you don't actually know the difference between revenue and profit... You're lying, again. So, here in the UK, when you were running your business so successfully, did you pay corporation tax on your revenue or your profit? And, while we're about it, what was your rough gross margin? Irrelevant to what Apple's is in Australia. |
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:56:58 +0000, Mike Lander wrote:
OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% Riiiight. So you don't actually know the difference between revenue and profit... You're lying, again. So, here in the UK, when you were running your business so successfully, did you pay corporation tax on your revenue or your profit? Obviously on the profit. But Apple clearly did not do that in Australia when the paid just 0.7% of their revenue in income tax and lied though their teeth about what their real profit was. OK, so you admit that your earlier suggestion of 28.5-30% of revenue was ********, and are just suggesting a massive criminal accounting fraud, while acknowledge that using the revenue figure as a comparison is irrelevant. Still, two admissions of monumental ****wittery and one mahoosive libel aren't bad for just two sentences. |
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:58:29 +0000, Mike Lander wrote:
OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% And, while we're about it, what was your rough gross margin? Irrelevant to what Apple's is in Australia. Oh, I think it is. Because, by the claims you made (which, tbf, you now agree are ********), anything less than a 30% gross margin would leave you losing money after tax. |
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:11 -0000, NY wrote:
"MM" wrote in message ... An Amazon Logistics delivery van came earlier to deliver a parcel. I noticed that the van was still parked outside, blocking my drive, 30 minutes later. I asked the driver what was the problem, and he said he'd locked his keys in the back of the van. Amazon sent an emergency locksmith, who arrived 10 minutes ago. I'm rather surprised that he hasn't got it open yet! I don't need to go anywhere in a hurry, but as a matter of interest, is it THAT difficult to open a van nowadays? The locksmith is working on the side door, not the rear. (Not the passenger door, the side door to the storage area.) I'm surprised that car/van locks are still made in such a way that it is possible to lock the door with the keys inside. If the front doors are still open, you'd think there would be an electronic override switch that would open the rear door. As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%. I've never locked my keys inside any vehicle because I *always* keep them in my pocket apart from when I'm using them to open a door (assuming the remote has failed) or to operate the ignition switch; and in the latter case I always remove them as I am getting out of the car. I got into the habit of never putting the keys down anywhere (especially inside the car) even for a few seconds. Likewise if I shut a house door that has a Yale lock, I always check that I have my keys in my pocket/hand before slamming the door. It's an ingrained habit, just like giving the gear lever a waggle to confirm it's in neutral before letting the clutch up at the end of a journey or before starting the engine (though in our new car I can't stat the engine unless the clutch is down). You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? Have you never been leaving he house and thought "oops I forgot to...." and gone back in, interrupting your locking procedure? I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell. It's reassuring that the locksmith is taking so long to get inside, because if an expert is having this much difficulty, so will the local scrote car/van thieves. I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally. A car that I borrowed from my local garage when my car was in for servicing had a key that had no blade and so there was no way of getting into the car if the remote key or the car battery failed. Seemed a bit of a fundamental flaw. Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? The cable release always ends up breaking. -- Peter is listening to "Who's the best - DJ Mad Dog feat. Tommyknocker" |
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Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:56:58 +0000, Mike Lander wrote: OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% Riiiight. So you don't actually know the difference between revenue and profit... You're lying, again. So, here in the UK, when you were running your business so successfully, did you pay corporation tax on your revenue or your profit? Obviously on the profit. But Apple clearly did not do that in Australia when the paid just 0.7% of their revenue in income tax and lied though their teeth about what their real profit was. OK, so you admit that your earlier suggestion of 28.5-30% of revenue was ********, I didn't say that, just didn't read your original question past the words corporate tax rate. and are just suggesting a massive criminal accounting fraud, while acknowledge that using the revenue figure as a comparison is irrelevant. It is completely relevant to what their real profit must be with one of the most profitable operations in world. |
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Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:58:29 +0000, Mike Lander wrote: OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% And, while we're about it, what was your rough gross margin? Irrelevant to what Apple's is in Australia. Oh, I think it is. Because, by the claims you made (which, tbf, you now agree are ********), anything less than a 30% gross margin would leave you losing money after tax. My gross margin is completely irrelevant to what Apple's is before their lies about their costs. |
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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:11 -0000, NY wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... An Amazon Logistics delivery van came earlier to deliver a parcel. I noticed that the van was still parked outside, blocking my drive, 30 minutes later. I asked the driver what was the problem, and he said he'd locked his keys in the back of the van. Amazon sent an emergency locksmith, who arrived 10 minutes ago. I'm rather surprised that he hasn't got it open yet! I don't need to go anywhere in a hurry, but as a matter of interest, is it THAT difficult to open a van nowadays? The locksmith is working on the side door, not the rear. (Not the passenger door, the side door to the storage area.) I'm surprised that car/van locks are still made in such a way that it is possible to lock the door with the keys inside. If the front doors are still open, you'd think there would be an electronic override switch that would open the rear door. As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, No. like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. It does actually. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, In the same way it knows its in the car when you hit the engine start button. like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%. Perfectly possible to have it fail safe. I've never locked my keys inside any vehicle because I *always* keep them in my pocket apart from when I'm using them to open a door (assuming the remote has failed) or to operate the ignition switch; and in the latter case I always remove them as I am getting out of the car. I got into the habit of never putting the keys down anywhere (especially inside the car) even for a few seconds. Likewise if I shut a house door that has a Yale lock, I always check that I have my keys in my pocket/hand before slamming the door. It's an ingrained habit, just like giving the gear lever a waggle to confirm it's in neutral before letting the clutch up at the end of a journey or before starting the engine (though in our new car I can't stat the engine unless the clutch is down). You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. That is the whole point of getting into that sort of habit, it keeps working in that situation. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? No, never, because I don't have to put the keys down somewhere in that situation. I can leave them in the lock until I put the large/heavy thing down and then take them out of the lock and do what I normally do with them. Have you never been leaving he house and thought "oops I forgot to...." and gone back in, interrupting your locking procedure? Yes, but the locking procedure works fine in that situation too. I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell. With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house. The one time I ever lost the keys was when I had just moved into the house I had just built, well before it was even close to being finished. I had rigged up a temporary bed by putting an old door on a few concrete blocks in the second bathroom which had had no work done on it at all. That had a number of big earthenware pipes coming up thru the concrete slab for stuff like the floor drain, the shower drain, the sink etc which were completely open at the top. I used to take a nap on that most days and managed to have the keys fall out of my pocket, into one of those drains without me noticing. After a lot of head scratching I decided that that must have been what had happened to the keys and sure enough, when I looked in the drain, there they were. I have also never run out of petrol in any car I have ever driven except on the one occasion when I has picked up a couple of Alsatian puppies from the state capital which is more than one fill of petrol away from where I live. I brought them home in the VW Beetle with the front seat removed with the two puppies who where only 5 weeks old on some newspaper where the front passenger's seat normally is. I did manage to forget to fill up with petrol as I passed the place I usually filled it on that run I did plenty of times. It's reassuring that the locksmith is taking so long to get inside, because if an expert is having this much difficulty, so will the local scrote car/van thieves. I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally. A car that I borrowed from my local garage when my car was in for servicing had a key that had no blade and so there was no way of getting into the car if the remote key or the car battery failed. Seemed a bit of a fundamental flaw. Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? Presumably the lock ends up filled with dead insects and dirt etc. Much easier to avoid that at the back. The cable release always ends up breaking. I've only ever had the one break, on a Golf. The Beetle never did and neither did any of the other cars. |
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:05:49 +0000, Mike Lander wrote:
OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% And, while we're about it, what was your rough gross margin? Irrelevant to what Apple's is in Australia. Oh, I think it is. Because, by the claims you made (which, tbf, you now agree are ********), anything less than a 30% gross margin would leave you losing money after tax. My gross margin is completely irrelevant to what Apple's is before their lies about their costs. They aren't lying. Apple US really _are_ invoicing them high for the kit to move profits back to the US. It's perfectly legal and, frankly, to be expected when you're so daft as to have a 30% corp tax rate in a global world... |
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Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:05:49 +0000, Mike Lander wrote: OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% And, while we're about it, what was your rough gross margin? Irrelevant to what Apple's is in Australia. Oh, I think it is. Because, by the claims you made (which, tbf, you now agree are ********), anything less than a 30% gross margin would leave you losing money after tax. My gross margin is completely irrelevant to what Apple's is before their lies about their costs. They aren't lying. Yes they are. What they are claiming is the cost of the hardware they are selling is nothing like what Apple pays Foxcon for it even when freight is included. Apple US really _are_ invoicing them high for the kit to move profits back to the US. They don't move profits back to the US, the move them to places like Ireland that have a much lower corporate tax rate. That is how literally billions of bucks ends up in Ireland and Apple actually borrows money in the US to pay dividends, because if the moved that money from Ireland to the US they would have to pay tax on that. It's perfectly legal Must be why Apple has just settled with Italy for hundreds of millions of bucks. and, frankly, to be expected when you're so daft as to have a 30% corp tax rate in a global world... So everyone should have the same corporate tax rate as the Bahamas? |
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 18:04:46 +0000, Mike Lander wrote:
They aren't lying. Yes they are. What they are claiming is the cost of the hardware they are selling is nothing like what Apple pays Foxcon for it even when freight is included. Which, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with the price of fish. and, frankly, to be expected when you're so daft as to have a 30% corp tax rate in a global world... So everyone should have the same corporate tax rate as the Bahamas? Umm, in case you've forgotten from your own days running a business, that's about 50% higher than the UK. |
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wrote: Adrian wrote: On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:05:49 +0000, Mike Lander wrote: OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% And, while we're about it, what was your rough gross margin? Irrelevant to what Apple's is in Australia. Oh, I think it is. Because, by the claims you made (which, tbf, you now agree are ********), anything less than a 30% gross margin would leave you losing money after tax. My gross margin is completely irrelevant to what Apple's is before their lies about their costs. They aren't lying. Yes they are. What they are claiming is the cost of the hardware they are selling is nothing like what Apple pays Foxcon for it even when freight is included. There's a lot more to the cost of a product than the build cost. R&D for a start -- Please note new email address: |
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:25:56 -0000, 879 wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:11 -0000, NY wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... An Amazon Logistics delivery van came earlier to deliver a parcel. I noticed that the van was still parked outside, blocking my drive, 30 minutes later. I asked the driver what was the problem, and he said he'd locked his keys in the back of the van. Amazon sent an emergency locksmith, who arrived 10 minutes ago. I'm rather surprised that he hasn't got it open yet! I don't need to go anywhere in a hurry, but as a matter of interest, is it THAT difficult to open a van nowadays? The locksmith is working on the side door, not the rear. (Not the passenger door, the side door to the storage area.) I'm surprised that car/van locks are still made in such a way that it is possible to lock the door with the keys inside. If the front doors are still open, you'd think there would be an electronic override switch that would open the rear door. As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, No. like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. It does actually. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, In the same way it knows its in the car when you hit the engine start button. like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%. Perfectly possible to have it fail safe. Except I've seen plenty that don't. If the sensor isn't sensitive enough, it doesn't know the difference between no keys and can't quite see the keys. I've never locked my keys inside any vehicle because I *always* keep them in my pocket apart from when I'm using them to open a door (assuming the remote has failed) or to operate the ignition switch; and in the latter case I always remove them as I am getting out of the car. I got into the habit of never putting the keys down anywhere (especially inside the car) even for a few seconds. Likewise if I shut a house door that has a Yale lock, I always check that I have my keys in my pocket/hand before slamming the door. It's an ingrained habit, just like giving the gear lever a waggle to confirm it's in neutral before letting the clutch up at the end of a journey or before starting the engine (though in our new car I can't stat the engine unless the clutch is down). You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. That is the whole point of getting into that sort of habit, it keeps working in that situation. Habits only work for good memory. I can't even remember to clean my teeth or shave every day. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? No, never, because I don't have to put the keys down somewhere in that situation. I can leave them in the lock until I put the large/heavy thing down and then take them out of the lock and do what I normally do with them. Which is why I often see people's keys in their front door. Have you never been leaving he house and thought "oops I forgot to...." and gone back in, interrupting your locking procedure? Yes, but the locking procedure works fine in that situation too. Most people would then forget to continue the procedure. I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell. With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house. A more sensible lock. Mind you, I changed mine to electronic, the key fob is round my wrist, so I can't lose it or forget it. I can also unlock and open the door while my hands are full. I just hold my wrist near the door, then push the door open with my foot. The one time I ever lost the keys was when I had just moved into the house I had just built, well before it was even close to being finished. I had rigged up a temporary bed by putting an old door on a few concrete blocks in the second bathroom which had had no work done on it at all. That had a number of big earthenware pipes coming up thru the concrete slab for stuff like the floor drain, the shower drain, the sink etc which were completely open at the top. I used to take a nap on that most days and managed to have the keys fall out of my pocket, into one of those drains without me noticing. After a lot of head scratching I decided that that must have been what had happened to the keys and sure enough, when I looked in the drain, there they were. I have also never run out of petrol in any car I have ever driven except on the one occasion when I has picked up a couple of Alsatian puppies from the state capital which is more than one fill of petrol away from where I live. I brought them home in the VW Beetle with the front seat removed with the two puppies who where only 5 weeks old on some newspaper where the front passenger's seat normally is. I did manage to forget to fill up with petrol as I passed the place I usually filled it on that run I did plenty of times. Unless you have very far apart petrol stations, I don't see the problem. I just fill up whenever I see the gauge at 1/4 or less. It's reassuring that the locksmith is taking so long to get inside, because if an expert is having this much difficulty, so will the local scrote car/van thieves. I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally. A car that I borrowed from my local garage when my car was in for servicing had a key that had no blade and so there was no way of getting into the car if the remote key or the car battery failed. Seemed a bit of a fundamental flaw. Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? Presumably the lock ends up filled with dead insects and dirt etc. Much easier to avoid that at the back. I'm sure it could be under something, like the boot lock of a VW Beetle (new type) under the badge which rotates. The cable release always ends up breaking. I've only ever had the one break, on a Golf. Same here, on a Golf. And a Maestro, a Sierra, and an Espace. They all use the same cable. When the catch gets a bit stiff and rusty, and the cable too, it snaps. -- A man and his wife are ****ing. Fifteen minutes has passed, 30 minutes, then 45 minutes. Sweat is pouring off both of them. 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On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 04:25:56 +1100, 879 wrote:
With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house. I can slam lock the door but I'm pretty safe as I can use my phone to unlock the door. Or another family member can. |
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 18:04:46 +0000, Mike Lander wrote: They aren't lying. Yes they are. What they are claiming is the cost of the hardware they are selling is nothing like what Apple pays Foxcon for it even when freight is included. Which, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with the price of fish. Wrong |
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In article , Mike Lander wrote: Adrian wrote: On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:05:49 +0000, Mike Lander wrote: OK, so let's try a different tack. What is the Australian corporation tax rate, as a percentage of revenue? 28.5-30% And, while we're about it, what was your rough gross margin? Irrelevant to what Apple's is in Australia. Oh, I think it is. Because, by the claims you made (which, tbf, you now agree are ********), anything less than a 30% gross margin would leave you losing money after tax. My gross margin is completely irrelevant to what Apple's is before their lies about their costs. They aren't lying. Yes they are. What they are claiming is the cost of the hardware they are selling is nothing like what Apple pays Foxcon for it even when freight is included. There's a lot more to the cost of a product than the build cost. R&D for a start That's done in the US and doesn't explain how BILLIONS have ended up in Ireland |
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How long does it take a locksmith to open a van with keys locked inside?
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:25:56 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:11 -0000, NY wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... An Amazon Logistics delivery van came earlier to deliver a parcel. I noticed that the van was still parked outside, blocking my drive, 30 minutes later. I asked the driver what was the problem, and he said he'd locked his keys in the back of the van. Amazon sent an emergency locksmith, who arrived 10 minutes ago. I'm rather surprised that he hasn't got it open yet! I don't need to go anywhere in a hurry, but as a matter of interest, is it THAT difficult to open a van nowadays? The locksmith is working on the side door, not the rear. (Not the passenger door, the side door to the storage area.) I'm surprised that car/van locks are still made in such a way that it is possible to lock the door with the keys inside. If the front doors are still open, you'd think there would be an electronic override switch that would open the rear door. As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, No. like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. It does actually. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, In the same way it knows its in the car when you hit the engine start button. like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%. Perfectly possible to have it fail safe. Except I've seen plenty that don't. If the sensor isn't sensitive enough, it doesn't know the difference between no keys and can't quite see the keys. It does, because if it can't quite see the keys it will see them intermittently. It wont if the keys are with the owner who has walked away from that car. I've never locked my keys inside any vehicle because I *always* keep them in my pocket apart from when I'm using them to open a door (assuming the remote has failed) or to operate the ignition switch; and in the latter case I always remove them as I am getting out of the car. I got into the habit of never putting the keys down anywhere (especially inside the car) even for a few seconds. Likewise if I shut a house door that has a Yale lock, I always check that I have my keys in my pocket/hand before slamming the door. It's an ingrained habit, just like giving the gear lever a waggle to confirm it's in neutral before letting the clutch up at the end of a journey or before starting the engine (though in our new car I can't stat the engine unless the clutch is down). You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. That is the whole point of getting into that sort of habit, it keeps working in that situation. Habits only work for good memory. Wrong. I can't even remember to clean my teeth or shave every day. That's because of your Alzheimer's. Most don't have that problem. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? No, never, because I don't have to put the keys down somewhere in that situation. I can leave them in the lock until I put the large/heavy thing down and then take them out of the lock and do what I normally do with them. Which is why I often see people's keys in their front door. No, that is because that is the only way to enable anyone to get thru the door with badly designed locks. Have you never been leaving he house and thought "oops I forgot to...." and gone back in, interrupting your locking procedure? Yes, but the locking procedure works fine in that situation too. Most people would then forget to continue the procedure. Most don't. I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell. With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house. A more sensible lock. Mind you, I changed mine to electronic, the key fob is round my wrist, so I can't lose it or forget it. Even better to have the phone do that and to not allow you to leave without the phone, so you can't forget to take the phone with you when you leave either. And can allow anyone you like to unlock the door with any time limits on that you like with their own phone so you can say let the person who feeds the pets while you are away or the cleaner or a service person let themselves in and the system notifies you when that happens and when they leave etc too. I can also unlock and open the door while my hands are full. I just hold my wrist near the door, then push the door open with my foot. Much better if it unlocks whenever you are within a few feet of the door. The one time I ever lost the keys was when I had just moved into the house I had just built, well before it was even close to being finished. I had rigged up a temporary bed by putting an old door on a few concrete blocks in the second bathroom which had had no work done on it at all. That had a number of big earthenware pipes coming up thru the concrete slab for stuff like the floor drain, the shower drain, the sink etc which were completely open at the top. I used to take a nap on that most days and managed to have the keys fall out of my pocket, into one of those drains without me noticing. After a lot of head scratching I decided that that must have been what had happened to the keys and sure enough, when I looked in the drain, there they were. I have also never run out of petrol in any car I have ever driven except on the one occasion when I has picked up a couple of Alsatian puppies from the state capital which is more than one fill of petrol away from where I live. I brought them home in the VW Beetle with the front seat removed with the two puppies who where only 5 weeks old on some newspaper where the front passenger's seat normally is. I did manage to forget to fill up with petrol as I passed the place I usually filled it on that run I did plenty of times. Unless you have very far apart petrol stations, We do. I don't see the problem. I just fill up whenever I see the gauge at 1/4 or less. Doesn't work here at night on long distance trips down that road. It's reassuring that the locksmith is taking so long to get inside, because if an expert is having this much difficulty, so will the local scrote car/van thieves. I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally. A car that I borrowed from my local garage when my car was in for servicing had a key that had no blade and so there was no way of getting into the car if the remote key or the car battery failed. Seemed a bit of a fundamental flaw. Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? Presumably the lock ends up filled with dead insects and dirt etc. Much easier to avoid that at the back. I'm sure it could be under something, like the boot lock of a VW Beetle (new type) under the badge which rotates. More convenient to be able to unlock it from inside the car in some situations. Yes, a decent modern electronic lock would fix that. The cable release always ends up breaking. I've only ever had the one break, on a Golf. Same here, on a Golf. And a Maestro, a Sierra, and an Espace. They all use the same cable. When the catch gets a bit stiff and rusty, and the cable too, it snaps. Never happened on any of mine except the Golf. And I never bothered to replace it, had the catch end coming out the grill and just pulled on that with the bent over end and the key ring in that bend when I needed to open the bonnet. With the wire pushed back into the grill with the bent end stopping it going back inside completely. |
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How long does it take a locksmith to open a van with keys lockedinside?
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 22:37:53 -0000, 879 wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:25:56 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:11 -0000, NY wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... An Amazon Logistics delivery van came earlier to deliver a parcel. I noticed that the van was still parked outside, blocking my drive, 30 minutes later. I asked the driver what was the problem, and he said he'd locked his keys in the back of the van. Amazon sent an emergency locksmith, who arrived 10 minutes ago. I'm rather surprised that he hasn't got it open yet! I don't need to go anywhere in a hurry, but as a matter of interest, is it THAT difficult to open a van nowadays? The locksmith is working on the side door, not the rear. (Not the passenger door, the side door to the storage area.) I'm surprised that car/van locks are still made in such a way that it is possible to lock the door with the keys inside. If the front doors are still open, you'd think there would be an electronic override switch that would open the rear door. As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, No. like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. It does actually. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, In the same way it knows its in the car when you hit the engine start button. like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%. Perfectly possible to have it fail safe. Except I've seen plenty that don't. If the sensor isn't sensitive enough, it doesn't know the difference between no keys and can't quite see the keys. It does, because if it can't quite see the keys it will see them intermittently. It wont if the keys are with the owner who has walked away from that car. My Honda CRV thought they were not in the car. I've never locked my keys inside any vehicle because I *always* keep them in my pocket apart from when I'm using them to open a door (assuming the remote has failed) or to operate the ignition switch; and in the latter case I always remove them as I am getting out of the car. I got into the habit of never putting the keys down anywhere (especially inside the car) even for a few seconds. Likewise if I shut a house door that has a Yale lock, I always check that I have my keys in my pocket/hand before slamming the door. It's an ingrained habit, just like giving the gear lever a waggle to confirm it's in neutral before letting the clutch up at the end of a journey or before starting the engine (though in our new car I can't stat the engine unless the clutch is down). You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. That is the whole point of getting into that sort of habit, it keeps working in that situation. Habits only work for good memory. Wrong. Uhhhh you require a memory to use a habit. I can't even remember to clean my teeth or shave every day. That's because of your Alzheimer's. Most don't have that problem. Most people forget these things occasionally. That's why keys locked in car/house is a common problem. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? No, never, because I don't have to put the keys down somewhere in that situation. I can leave them in the lock until I put the large/heavy thing down and then take them out of the lock and do what I normally do with them. Which is why I often see people's keys in their front door. No, that is because that is the only way to enable anyone to get thru the door with badly designed locks. Huh? You think they leave them in there all night on purpose? They put them in to unlock the door, then forget to remove them as they carry the shopping in. I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell. With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house. A more sensible lock. Mind you, I changed mine to electronic, the key fob is round my wrist, so I can't lose it or forget it. Even better to have the phone do that You can get a phone to transmit a code to a door lock? and to not allow you to leave without the phone, so you can't forget to take the phone with you when you leave either. I don't always want my phone with me. Not if I'm going somewhere I might bash it, lose it, or get it soaked. And can allow anyone you like to unlock the door with any time limits on that you like with their own phone so you can say let the person who feeds the pets while you are away or the cleaner or a service person let themselves in and the system notifies you when that happens and when they leave etc too. I've got 20 fobs. I can program any of them to allow entry to the house, the garage, both, or none. So I can hand them to people who need to feed animals and adjust the code in the door lock according to how much I trust them, and can change that without having to tell them or get their fob. I can also unlock and open the door while my hands are full. I just hold my wrist near the door, then push the door open with my foot. Much better if it unlocks whenever you are within a few feet of the door. More expensive to get those. The one time I ever lost the keys was when I had just moved into the house I had just built, well before it was even close to being finished. I had rigged up a temporary bed by putting an old door on a few concrete blocks in the second bathroom which had had no work done on it at all. That had a number of big earthenware pipes coming up thru the concrete slab for stuff like the floor drain, the shower drain, the sink etc which were completely open at the top. I used to take a nap on that most days and managed to have the keys fall out of my pocket, into one of those drains without me noticing. After a lot of head scratching I decided that that must have been what had happened to the keys and sure enough, when I looked in the drain, there they were. I have also never run out of petrol in any car I have ever driven except on the one occasion when I has picked up a couple of Alsatian puppies from the state capital which is more than one fill of petrol away from where I live. I brought them home in the VW Beetle with the front seat removed with the two puppies who where only 5 weeks old on some newspaper where the front passenger's seat normally is. I did manage to forget to fill up with petrol as I passed the place I usually filled it on that run I did plenty of times. Unless you have very far apart petrol stations, We do. Then you should surely have larger fuel tanks. I don't see the problem. I just fill up whenever I see the gauge at 1/4 or less. Doesn't work here at night on long distance trips down that road. It's reassuring that the locksmith is taking so long to get inside, because if an expert is having this much difficulty, so will the local scrote car/van thieves. I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally. A car that I borrowed from my local garage when my car was in for servicing had a key that had no blade and so there was no way of getting into the car if the remote key or the car battery failed. Seemed a bit of a fundamental flaw. Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? Presumably the lock ends up filled with dead insects and dirt etc. Much easier to avoid that at the back. I'm sure it could be under something, like the boot lock of a VW Beetle (new type) under the badge which rotates. More convenient to be able to unlock it from inside the car in some situations. Yes, a decent modern electronic lock would fix that. Doesn't have to be modern. There have been electric solenoid operated boot releases for decades. One of them for the bonnet would be good. No need for external lock to get gunked up. The cable release always ends up breaking. I've only ever had the one break, on a Golf. Same here, on a Golf. And a Maestro, a Sierra, and an Espace. They all use the same cable. When the catch gets a bit stiff and rusty, and the cable too, it snaps. Never happened on any of mine except the Golf. I thought you drove just as old cars as me? And I never bothered to replace it, had the catch end coming out the grill and just pulled on that with the bent over end and the key ring in that bend when I needed to open the bonnet. With the wire pushed back into the grill with the bent end stopping it going back inside completely. I did that too, and THREE seperate policemen told me to get it fixed, I ignored them. -- Peter is listening to "Fredzefred - All da Motha ****as" |
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How long does it take a locksmith to open a van with keys locked inside?
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 22:37:53 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:25:56 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:11 -0000, NY wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... An Amazon Logistics delivery van came earlier to deliver a parcel. I noticed that the van was still parked outside, blocking my drive, 30 minutes later. I asked the driver what was the problem, and he said he'd locked his keys in the back of the van. Amazon sent an emergency locksmith, who arrived 10 minutes ago. I'm rather surprised that he hasn't got it open yet! I don't need to go anywhere in a hurry, but as a matter of interest, is it THAT difficult to open a van nowadays? The locksmith is working on the side door, not the rear. (Not the passenger door, the side door to the storage area.) I'm surprised that car/van locks are still made in such a way that it is possible to lock the door with the keys inside. If the front doors are still open, you'd think there would be an electronic override switch that would open the rear door. As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, No. like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. It does actually. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, In the same way it knows its in the car when you hit the engine start button. like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%. Perfectly possible to have it fail safe. Except I've seen plenty that don't. If the sensor isn't sensitive enough, it doesn't know the difference between no keys and can't quite see the keys. It does, because if it can't quite see the keys it will see them intermittently. It wont if the keys are with the owner who has walked away from that car. My Honda CRV thought they were not in the car. You can get faults with any device and bad design too. Not all cars that lock themselves if you forget are bad designs. I've never locked my keys inside any vehicle because I *always* keep them in my pocket apart from when I'm using them to open a door (assuming the remote has failed) or to operate the ignition switch; and in the latter case I always remove them as I am getting out of the car. I got into the habit of never putting the keys down anywhere (especially inside the car) even for a few seconds. Likewise if I shut a house door that has a Yale lock, I always check that I have my keys in my pocket/hand before slamming the door. It's an ingrained habit, just like giving the gear lever a waggle to confirm it's in neutral before letting the clutch up at the end of a journey or before starting the engine (though in our new car I can't stat the engine unless the clutch is down). You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. That is the whole point of getting into that sort of habit, it keeps working in that situation. Habits only work for good memory. Wrong. Uhhhh you require a memory to use a habit. But not a GOOD memory, an average memory is fine. I can't even remember to clean my teeth or shave every day. That's because of your Alzheimer's. Most don't have that problem. Most people forget these things occasionally. Sure, but most don't forget to shave etc. That's why keys locked in car/house is a common problem. That's mostly poor design which allows you to lock the car/house without using the key. You can do that with my car, you are free to lock it with the button on the key with the door(s) open and it will lock when you close the door, but that clearly risks you leaving the keys in the car so I am careful to never do that with the keys not in my hand/pocket. Not that it would be the end of the world if I did lock the keys in the car because there is a spare set in the house and the worst I might have to do is get a lift back to the house or a taxi and get the spare key. I obviously don't lock the car like that when way from my town on a trip etc. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? No, never, because I don't have to put the keys down somewhere in that situation. I can leave them in the lock until I put the large/heavy thing down and then take them out of the lock and do what I normally do with them. Which is why I often see people's keys in their front door. No, that is because that is the only way to enable anyone to get thru the door with badly designed locks. Huh? You think they leave them in there all night on purpose? They don't normally leave them in the lock all night, but often do for part of the day. They put them in to unlock the door, then forget to remove them as they carry the shopping in. Never seen anyone do that. And I don't myself, the car is parked just outside the house door I use for that so I unlock the house door, open the car back door, it's a hatch, press the lock button on the key, put the keys back in my pocket, move the shopping into the house, shut the back door on the car and have it lock automatically, walk into the house and leave that door unlocked because that is the door the visitors show up at and I sit facing that door much of the day, 8' away from it. I don't normally go to the door when a visitor shows up, just wave them in if its someone I know. I only lock that door from the inside using the latch at night or when taking a nap. I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell. With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house. A more sensible lock. Mind you, I changed mine to electronic, the key fob is round my wrist, so I can't lose it or forget it. Even better to have the phone do that You can get a phone to transmit a code to a door lock? Yep, the best electronic locks work like that and you can authorise anyone's phone to lock and unlock the lock and have restrictions on when they can do that, like say get in today but not any other day, get in for an hour, or get in between 4pm and 5pm etc, any day between 9am and 11am etc, anything you like. And you can do it the other way too, have them effectively tell you electronically that they are at the door and have you unlock it remotely too and even watch them on your surveillance cameras so you can be sure that the cleaner isnt looting the place and the person fixing the dishwasher isnt loading all your stuff into a ****ing great van. and to not allow you to leave without the phone, so you can't forget to take the phone with you when you leave either. I don't always want my phone with me. Sure, but plenty do take it with then whenever they go out. Not if I'm going somewhere I might bash it, lose it, or get it soaked. Sure, but the best designed system handle that fine too. And can allow anyone you like to unlock the door with any time limits on that you like with their own phone so you can say let the person who feeds the pets while you are away or the cleaner or a service person let themselves in and the system notifies you when that happens and when they leave etc too. I've got 20 fobs. Much better for any phone that's been authorised to work. I can program any of them to allow entry to the house, the garage, both, or none. So I can hand them to people who need to feed animals and adjust the code in the door lock according to how much I trust them, and can change that without having to tell them or get their fob. Sure, but again, its better if any phone can do it and you can specify in very fine detail what each phone is allowed to do and to notify you when they do anything etc so you can watch them on the surveillance cameras if you don't know they can be trusted etc. And even when you do, just knowing you can be watching any time you like when you have been told that they have arrived stops all but the worst criminals even just snooping. I can also unlock and open the door while my hands are full. I just hold my wrist near the door, then push the door open with my foot. Much better if it unlocks whenever you are within a few feet of the door. More expensive to get those. Not with the ones that work with any phone essentially because none of that hardware needs to be supplied. The lock just needs to be able to communicate with phones and that costs peanuts now with stuff like blue tooth and wifi and NFC. The one time I ever lost the keys was when I had just moved into the house I had just built, well before it was even close to being finished. I had rigged up a temporary bed by putting an old door on a few concrete blocks in the second bathroom which had had no work done on it at all. That had a number of big earthenware pipes coming up thru the concrete slab for stuff like the floor drain, the shower drain, the sink etc which were completely open at the top. I used to take a nap on that most days and managed to have the keys fall out of my pocket, into one of those drains without me noticing. After a lot of head scratching I decided that that must have been what had happened to the keys and sure enough, when I looked in the drain, there they were. I have also never run out of petrol in any car I have ever driven except on the one occasion when I has picked up a couple of Alsatian puppies from the state capital which is more than one fill of petrol away from where I live. I brought them home in the VW Beetle with the front seat removed with the two puppies who where only 5 weeks old on some newspaper where the front passenger's seat normally is. I did manage to forget to fill up with petrol as I passed the place I usually filled it on that run I did plenty of times. Unless you have very far apart petrol stations, We do. Then you should surely have larger fuel tanks. Don't need them, just need to use the petrol stations that are open then instead of driving past them. You only need the one with any of the 3 closest state capitals and the federal capital. I don't see the problem. I just fill up whenever I see the gauge at 1/4 or less. Doesn't work here at night on long distance trips down that road. Or the other roads to the other capitals either. It's reassuring that the locksmith is taking so long to get inside, because if an expert is having this much difficulty, so will the local scrote car/van thieves. I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally. A car that I borrowed from my local garage when my car was in for servicing had a key that had no blade and so there was no way of getting into the car if the remote key or the car battery failed. Seemed a bit of a fundamental flaw. Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? Presumably the lock ends up filled with dead insects and dirt etc. Much easier to avoid that at the back. I'm sure it could be under something, like the boot lock of a VW Beetle (new type) under the badge which rotates. More convenient to be able to unlock it from inside the car in some situations. Yes, a decent modern electronic lock would fix that. Doesn't have to be modern. It is convenient if its part of the central locking rather than unique to the bonnet. There have been electric solenoid operated boot releases for decades. But fully integrated central locking is relatively modern. One of them for the bonnet would be good. No need for external lock to get gunked up. Yeah, that's what I meant. The cable release always ends up breaking. I've only ever had the one break, on a Golf. Same here, on a Golf. And a Maestro, a Sierra, and an Espace. They all use the same cable. When the catch gets a bit stiff and rusty, and the cable too, it snaps. Never happened on any of mine except the Golf. I thought you drove just as old cars as me? That varys. I have bought them new since the 60s, just used the Golf for much longer than most do, 40+ years. The current Getz is getting on for 10 years old now and if it lasts as long as the Golf did may well be my last car unless some fool writes it off crashing into it. I only stopped using the Golf because I was too stupid to fix the known windscreen leak until it eventually rusted the floor and made it unregisterable and I couldn't be arsed to cut the rusty patch out and weld in a new bit. Haven't had to replace anything in the Getz except the battery which had an odd fault when getting close to the end of its life anyway. Mate of mine is still using the battery on his solar system. And I never bothered to replace it, had the catch end coming out the grill and just pulled on that with the bent over end and the key ring in that bend when I needed to open the bonnet. With the wire pushed back into the grill with the bent end stopping it going back inside completely. I did that too, and THREE seperate policemen told me to get it fixed, I ignored them. Never had anyone complain about it and we have a pretty stringent check of the car before registration renewal every year. Nothing sharp sicking out the front, because of the bent over end there is just a 12mm radius bend at the front of the car. They all saw it too because you have to open the bonnet so they can check under it for some stuff like how well secured the battery is, altho none of them have ever checked that on the Getz that I have ever noticed. I don't always see what they check tho. |
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 00:17:48 -0000, 879 wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 22:37:53 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:25:56 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:11 -0000, NY wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... An Amazon Logistics delivery van came earlier to deliver a parcel. I noticed that the van was still parked outside, blocking my drive, 30 minutes later. I asked the driver what was the problem, and he said he'd locked his keys in the back of the van. Amazon sent an emergency locksmith, who arrived 10 minutes ago. I'm rather surprised that he hasn't got it open yet! I don't need to go anywhere in a hurry, but as a matter of interest, is it THAT difficult to open a van nowadays? The locksmith is working on the side door, not the rear. (Not the passenger door, the side door to the storage area.) I'm surprised that car/van locks are still made in such a way that it is possible to lock the door with the keys inside. If the front doors are still open, you'd think there would be an electronic override switch that would open the rear door. As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, No. like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. It does actually. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, In the same way it knows its in the car when you hit the engine start button. like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%. Perfectly possible to have it fail safe. Except I've seen plenty that don't. If the sensor isn't sensitive enough, it doesn't know the difference between no keys and can't quite see the keys. It does, because if it can't quite see the keys it will see them intermittently. It wont if the keys are with the owner who has walked away from that car. My Honda CRV thought they were not in the car. You can get faults with any device and bad design too. Not all cars that lock themselves if you forget are bad designs. I see bad design everywhere in all makes of car. I've never locked my keys inside any vehicle because I *always* keep them in my pocket apart from when I'm using them to open a door (assuming the remote has failed) or to operate the ignition switch; and in the latter case I always remove them as I am getting out of the car. I got into the habit of never putting the keys down anywhere (especially inside the car) even for a few seconds. Likewise if I shut a house door that has a Yale lock, I always check that I have my keys in my pocket/hand before slamming the door. It's an ingrained habit, just like giving the gear lever a waggle to confirm it's in neutral before letting the clutch up at the end of a journey or before starting the engine (though in our new car I can't stat the engine unless the clutch is down). You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. That is the whole point of getting into that sort of habit, it keeps working in that situation. Habits only work for good memory. Wrong. Uhhhh you require a memory to use a habit. But not a GOOD memory, an average memory is fine. Most people don't even have that. I can't even remember to clean my teeth or shave every day. That's because of your Alzheimer's. Most don't have that problem. Most people forget these things occasionally. Sure, but most don't forget to shave etc. Occasionally they do. That's why keys locked in car/house is a common problem. That's mostly poor design which allows you to lock the car/house without using the key. You wouldn't need good design if we had proper memories. You can do that with my car, you are free to lock it with the button on the key with the door(s) open and it will lock when you close the door, but that clearly risks you leaving the keys in the car so I am careful to never do that with the keys not in my hand/pocket. Not that it would be the end of the world if I did lock the keys in the car because there is a spare set in the house and the worst I might have to do is get a lift back to the house or a taxi and get the spare key. I obviously don't lock the car like that when way from my town on a trip etc. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? No, never, because I don't have to put the keys down somewhere in that situation. I can leave them in the lock until I put the large/heavy thing down and then take them out of the lock and do what I normally do with them. Which is why I often see people's keys in their front door. No, that is because that is the only way to enable anyone to get thru the door with badly designed locks. Huh? You think they leave them in there all night on purpose? They don't normally leave them in the lock all night, but often do for part of the day. But it's not required to get through the door like you said. They put them in to unlock the door, then forget to remove them as they carry the shopping in. Never seen anyone do that. And I don't myself, the car is parked just outside the house door I use for that so I unlock the house door, open the car back door, it's a hatch, press the lock button on the key, put the keys back in my pocket, move the shopping into the house, I don't plan that far in advance. I take the shopping out of the car (which is already unlocked as I was driving it), carry it to the front door, put it down and unlock the door with the key (this is before I got electronic locks), the key might go in my pocket, it might get lost in a box of shopping, it might be still in the lock or dropped on the step. Carry the stuff in, go back for more boxes, shut the car and lock it when I've taken the last box out, then spend half an hour trying to find the ****ing house keys. shut the back door on the car and have it lock automatically, walk into the house and leave that door unlocked because that is the door the visitors show up at and I sit facing that door much of the day, 8' away from it. I don't normally go to the door when a visitor shows up, just wave them in if its someone I know. I only lock that door from the inside using the latch at night or when taking a nap. I never lock my house doors (well they do now as they're electronic), but I never saw the point in keeping people out when I;m in. Locks are for when I'm not here. I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell. With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house. A more sensible lock. Mind you, I changed mine to electronic, the key fob is round my wrist, so I can't lose it or forget it. Even better to have the phone do that You can get a phone to transmit a code to a door lock? Yep, the best electronic locks work like that and you can authorise anyone's phone to lock and unlock the lock and have restrictions on when they can do that, like say get in today but not any other day, get in for an hour, or get in between 4pm and 5pm etc, any day between 9am and 11am etc, anything you like. But they have to have the right phone with the right app. I can give my fobs to anybody - the OAPs next door without a mobile at all for example. And you can do it the other way too, have them effectively tell you electronically that they are at the door and have you unlock it remotely too and even watch them on your surveillance cameras so you can be sure that the cleaner isnt looting the place and the person fixing the dishwasher isnt loading all your stuff into a ****ing great van. The cleaner? Snob! and to not allow you to leave without the phone, so you can't forget to take the phone with you when you leave either. I don't always want my phone with me. Sure, but plenty do take it with then whenever they go out. Not if I'm going somewhere I might bash it, lose it, or get it soaked. Sure, but the best designed system handle that fine too. How? And can allow anyone you like to unlock the door with any time limits on that you like with their own phone so you can say let the person who feeds the pets while you are away or the cleaner or a service person let themselves in and the system notifies you when that happens and when they leave etc too. I've got 20 fobs. Much better for any phone that's been authorised to work. I can program any of them to allow entry to the house, the garage, both, or none. So I can hand them to people who need to feed animals and adjust the code in the door lock according to how much I trust them, and can change that without having to tell them or get their fob. Sure, but again, its better if any phone can do it and you can specify in very fine detail what each phone is allowed to do and to notify you when they do anything etc so you can watch them on the surveillance cameras if you don't know they can be trusted etc. And even when you do, just knowing you can be watching any time you like when you have been told that they have arrived stops all but the worst criminals even just snooping. I can also unlock and open the door while my hands are full. I just hold my wrist near the door, then push the door open with my foot. Much better if it unlocks whenever you are within a few feet of the door. More expensive to get those. Not with the ones that work with any phone essentially because none of that hardware needs to be supplied. The lock just needs to be able to communicate with phones and that costs peanuts now with stuff like blue tooth and wifi and NFC. I wonder if you can get a bluetooth lock which doesn't need a phone? The one time I ever lost the keys was when I had just moved into the house I had just built, well before it was even close to being finished. I had rigged up a temporary bed by putting an old door on a few concrete blocks in the second bathroom which had had no work done on it at all. That had a number of big earthenware pipes coming up thru the concrete slab for stuff like the floor drain, the shower drain, the sink etc which were completely open at the top. I used to take a nap on that most days and managed to have the keys fall out of my pocket, into one of those drains without me noticing. After a lot of head scratching I decided that that must have been what had happened to the keys and sure enough, when I looked in the drain, there they were. I have also never run out of petrol in any car I have ever driven except on the one occasion when I has picked up a couple of Alsatian puppies from the state capital which is more than one fill of petrol away from where I live. I brought them home in the VW Beetle with the front seat removed with the two puppies who where only 5 weeks old on some newspaper where the front passenger's seat normally is. I did manage to forget to fill up with petrol as I passed the place I usually filled it on that run I did plenty of times. Unless you have very far apart petrol stations, We do. Then you should surely have larger fuel tanks. Don't need them, just need to use the petrol stations that are open then instead of driving past them. You only need the one with any of the 3 closest state capitals and the federal capital. But I don't have to fill every time I pass one, I'd forget now and then. Whenever I notice the gauge at 1./4 or less, I stop at some point later on. You can't drive more than 25 miles without a fuel station in the UK. I don't see the problem. I just fill up whenever I see the gauge at 1/4 or less. Doesn't work here at night on long distance trips down that road. Or the other roads to the other capitals either. I'd get a 2nd fuel tank fitted. It's reassuring that the locksmith is taking so long to get inside, because if an expert is having this much difficulty, so will the local scrote car/van thieves. I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally. A car that I borrowed from my local garage when my car was in for servicing had a key that had no blade and so there was no way of getting into the car if the remote key or the car battery failed. Seemed a bit of a fundamental flaw. Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? Presumably the lock ends up filled with dead insects and dirt etc. Much easier to avoid that at the back. I'm sure it could be under something, like the boot lock of a VW Beetle (new type) under the badge which rotates. More convenient to be able to unlock it from inside the car in some situations. Yes, a decent modern electronic lock would fix that. Doesn't have to be modern. It is convenient if its part of the central locking rather than unique to the bonnet. Best to have the bonnet stay locked when you're driving, less chance of it flying up and smashing the windscreen like mine did after I'd had a shunt earlier and ****ed the catch. There have been electric solenoid operated boot releases for decades. But fully integrated central locking is relatively modern. Rubbish. My dad had it on his 2nd hand car 25 years ago. So 30-35 years. One of them for the bonnet would be good. No need for external lock to get gunked up. Yeah, that's what I meant. The cable release always ends up breaking. I've only ever had the one break, on a Golf. Same here, on a Golf. And a Maestro, a Sierra, and an Espace. They all use the same cable. When the catch gets a bit stiff and rusty, and the cable too, it snaps. Never happened on any of mine except the Golf. I thought you drove just as old cars as me? That varys. I have bought them new since the 60s, just used the Golf for much longer than most do, 40+ years. The current Getz is getting on for 10 years old now and if it lasts as long as the Golf did may well be my last car unless some fool writes it off crashing into it. I only stopped using the Golf because I was too stupid [titter] to fix the known windscreen leak I never had a windscreen leak on the Golf. I did have a sunroof leak, I just taped that up as I never used it much. until it eventually rusted the floor and made it unregisterable and I couldn't be arsed to cut the rusty patch out and weld in a new bit. Haven't had to replace anything in the Getz except the battery which had an odd fault when getting close to the end of its life anyway. Mate of mine is still using the battery on his solar system. And I never bothered to replace it, had the catch end coming out the grill and just pulled on that with the bent over end and the key ring in that bend when I needed to open the bonnet. With the wire pushed back into the grill with the bent end stopping it going back inside completely. I did that too, and THREE seperate policemen told me to get it fixed, I ignored them. Never had anyone complain about it and we have a pretty stringent check of the car before registration renewal every year. It never failed our annual check, just stupid pigs saying "that's sharp". They didn't like me pointing out that a pedestrian won't give a **** about a little scratch when they've just been flattened and broken their leg. One also tried to tell me my loose reg plate could come off and fly into someone's face, and quoted a film where it happened. I said "this is real life, not the movies", which made him very angry. Nothing sharp sicking out the front, because of the bent over end there is just a 12mm radius bend at the front of the car. Yeah I didn't do mine so neatly. They all saw it too because you have to open the bonnet so they can check under it for some stuff like how well secured the battery is, altho none of them have ever checked that on the Getz that I have ever noticed. I don't always see what they check tho. What's with checking the battery? So what if it comes off? -- Japanese scientists have created a camera with a shutter speed so fast, they can now photograph a woman with her mouth shut. |
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How long does it take a locksmith to open a van with keys locked inside?
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 00:17:48 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 22:37:53 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:25:56 -0000, 879 wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:11 -0000, NY wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... An Amazon Logistics delivery van came earlier to deliver a parcel. I noticed that the van was still parked outside, blocking my drive, 30 minutes later. I asked the driver what was the problem, and he said he'd locked his keys in the back of the van. Amazon sent an emergency locksmith, who arrived 10 minutes ago. I'm rather surprised that he hasn't got it open yet! I don't need to go anywhere in a hurry, but as a matter of interest, is it THAT difficult to open a van nowadays? The locksmith is working on the side door, not the rear. (Not the passenger door, the side door to the storage area.) I'm surprised that car/van locks are still made in such a way that it is possible to lock the door with the keys inside. If the front doors are still open, you'd think there would be an electronic override switch that would open the rear door. As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, No. like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. It does actually. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, In the same way it knows its in the car when you hit the engine start button. like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%. Perfectly possible to have it fail safe. Except I've seen plenty that don't. If the sensor isn't sensitive enough, it doesn't know the difference between no keys and can't quite see the keys. It does, because if it can't quite see the keys it will see them intermittently. It wont if the keys are with the owner who has walked away from that car. My Honda CRV thought they were not in the car. You can get faults with any device and bad design too. Not all cars that lock themselves if you forget are bad designs. I see bad design everywhere in all makes of car. I've never locked my keys inside any vehicle because I *always* keep them in my pocket apart from when I'm using them to open a door (assuming the remote has failed) or to operate the ignition switch; and in the latter case I always remove them as I am getting out of the car. I got into the habit of never putting the keys down anywhere (especially inside the car) even for a few seconds. Likewise if I shut a house door that has a Yale lock, I always check that I have my keys in my pocket/hand before slamming the door. It's an ingrained habit, just like giving the gear lever a waggle to confirm it's in neutral before letting the clutch up at the end of a journey or before starting the engine (though in our new car I can't stat the engine unless the clutch is down). You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. That is the whole point of getting into that sort of habit, it keeps working in that situation. Habits only work for good memory. Wrong. Uhhhh you require a memory to use a habit. But not a GOOD memory, an average memory is fine. Most people don't even have that. By definition they do, that's what average means. I can't even remember to clean my teeth or shave every day. That's because of your Alzheimer's. Most don't have that problem. Most people forget these things occasionally. Sure, but most don't forget to shave etc. Occasionally they do. That's why keys locked in car/house is a common problem. That's mostly poor design which allows you to lock the car/house without using the key. You wouldn't need good design if we had proper memories. Very few have that reliable enough memories, particularly when you include unusual events like wondering whether the house is burning down and getting out and discovering that its just a quirk and the house is fine etc. You can do that with my car, you are free to lock it with the button on the key with the door(s) open and it will lock when you close the door, but that clearly risks you leaving the keys in the car so I am careful to never do that with the keys not in my hand/pocket. Not that it would be the end of the world if I did lock the keys in the car because there is a spare set in the house and the worst I might have to do is get a lift back to the house or a taxi and get the spare key. I obviously don't lock the car like that when way from my town on a trip etc. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? No, never, because I don't have to put the keys down somewhere in that situation. I can leave them in the lock until I put the large/heavy thing down and then take them out of the lock and do what I normally do with them. Which is why I often see people's keys in their front door. No, that is because that is the only way to enable anyone to get thru the door with badly designed locks. Huh? You think they leave them in there all night on purpose? They don't normally leave them in the lock all night, but often do for part of the day. But it's not required to get through the door like you said. It is with plenty of doors. They put them in to unlock the door, then forget to remove them as they carry the shopping in. Never seen anyone do that. And I don't myself, the car is parked just outside the house door I use for that so I unlock the house door, open the car back door, it's a hatch, press the lock button on the key, put the keys back in my pocket, move the shopping into the house, I don't plan that far in advance. Its not planning, just a habit that is handy. I take the shopping out of the car (which is already unlocked as I was driving it), carry it to the front door, put it down and unlock the door with the key (this is before I got electronic locks), the key might go in my pocket, it might get lost in a box of shopping, it might be still in the lock or dropped on the step. I am never that careless with something like the keys or the phone. Same inside the house too, the keys are either in my pocket or in the same place every time. Same with the phone. Carry the stuff in, go back for more boxes, shut the car and lock it when I've taken the last box out, then spend half an hour trying to find the ****ing house keys. And that is why I do it the other way. shut the back door on the car and have it lock automatically, walk into the house and leave that door unlocked because that is the door the visitors show up at and I sit facing that door much of the day, 8' away from it. I don't normally go to the door when a visitor shows up, just wave them in if its someone I know. I only lock that door from the inside using the latch at night or when taking a nap. I never lock my house doors (well they do now as they're electronic), but I never saw the point in keeping people out when I;m in. I do now that I was lying on the bed reading a book during the day and heard the flyscreen being slid open and heard someone trying to open the big patio door that is the main entrance door. Walked out and found a couple of kids trying to get into the house that way. Bailed up, unusually they didn't just run off, tried to tell me some bull**** story about what they were up to, checking that the door was properly closed or something. Called the cops, had the sergeant who is also the police prosecutor who had charged the one I caught inside the house come tearing around the side of the house with his long baton in his hand. He's built like a brick **** house. The two girls damned near shat themselves on the spot. Locks are for when I'm not here. Wrong. I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell. With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house. A more sensible lock. Mind you, I changed mine to electronic, the key fob is round my wrist, so I can't lose it or forget it. Even better to have the phone do that You can get a phone to transmit a code to a door lock? Yep, the best electronic locks work like that and you can authorise anyone's phone to lock and unlock the lock and have restrictions on when they can do that, like say get in today but not any other day, get in for an hour, or get in between 4pm and 5pm etc, any day between 9am and 11am etc, anything you like. But they have to have the right phone Nope, any phone works fine. with the right app. Nope. I can give my fobs to anybody With that system you don't need to give anything to anyone, no need to go anywhere near them, you can do it all with a call or text and don't need them to do anything with it when they don't need to get into your house anymore and you can see if they try to get in after they are not allowed to anymore. - the OAPs next door without a mobile at all for example. You are free to hand them a spare phone in that situation. And you can do it the other way too, have them effectively tell you electronically that they are at the door and have you unlock it remotely too and even watch them on your surveillance cameras so you can be sure that the cleaner isnt looting the place and the person fixing the dishwasher isnt loading all your stuff into a ****ing great van. The cleaner? Snob! Don't use one myself, but plenty do. Don't get anyone to do the lawns either except with the local council that does mow one of mine with their ****ing great tractor mower that is a lot bigger than my car in exchange for me doing the watering in the park/walkway next to the house. Don't get anyone to come and fix anything either, do that myself. But I do get people to check on the dog that feeds himself and to check on the house while I am away for more than a day or so and need to allow all my neighbours to get into the house in case there is some obvious problem in the house that I can detect remotely and need someone to do something about. I know almost all the neighbours very well indeed and its very handy for any of them to be able to do that. The last time I ended up in hospital for a couple of weeks, two of the neighbours happened to be out of town too, and its very handy to be able to fall back to thru them all to the ones still available without having to hand them anything physical or for them to need to remember where they have put it years after I have given it to them. Even if they have changed their phone or phone number etc, its trivially easy to allow them access as required. That time I ended up in hospital, I had left the sprinklers on in the park when I drove myself to the hospital. I rang one of them to get them to turn the sprinklers off when they wouldn't let me leave the hospital. He later picked up my car and took it home and got some stuff from the house that I needed. But his wife managed to forget to lock the front door when they left. Fortunately one of the kids I know well came to visit, discovered that the door was open, couldn't find me, and had enough sense to go to one of my other neighbours he knew and tell him that something was wrong. The original neighbours had gone out of town and assumed that I'd be carted off to the state capital quickly. Turned out that took 2 weeks. And the other next door neighbours whose house I always check on when their alarm goes off and who always tell me when they are going to be away were also out of town then. and to not allow you to leave without the phone, so you can't forget to take the phone with you when you leave either. I don't always want my phone with me. Sure, but plenty do take it with then whenever they go out. Not if I'm going somewhere I might bash it, lose it, or get it soaked. Sure, but the best designed systems handle that fine too. How? You just leave the phone somewhere where you can get it when you return or allow an alternate entry via a keypad PIN etc only in that situation where you choose to leave the phone behind. And can allow anyone you like to unlock the door with any time limits on that you like with their own phone so you can say let the person who feeds the pets while you are away or the cleaner or a service person let themselves in and the system notifies you when that happens and when they leave etc too. I've got 20 fobs. Much better for any phone that's been authorised to work. I can program any of them to allow entry to the house, the garage, both, or none. So I can hand them to people who need to feed animals and adjust the code in the door lock according to how much I trust them, and can change that without having to tell them or get their fob. Sure, but again, its better if any phone can do it and you can specify in very fine detail what each phone is allowed to do and to notify you when they do anything etc so you can watch them on the surveillance cameras if you don't know they can be trusted etc. And even when you do, just knowing you can be watching any time you like when you have been told that they have arrived stops all but the worst criminals even just snooping. I can also unlock and open the door while my hands are full. I just hold my wrist near the door, then push the door open with my foot. Much better if it unlocks whenever you are within a few feet of the door. More expensive to get those. Not with the ones that work with any phone essentially because none of that hardware needs to be supplied. The lock just needs to be able to communicate with phones and that costs peanuts now with stuff like blue tooth and wifi and NFC. I wonder if you can get a bluetooth lock which doesn't need a phone? Yes you can. The one time I ever lost the keys was when I had just moved into the house I had just built, well before it was even close to being finished. I had rigged up a temporary bed by putting an old door on a few concrete blocks in the second bathroom which had had no work done on it at all. That had a number of big earthenware pipes coming up thru the concrete slab for stuff like the floor drain, the shower drain, the sink etc which were completely open at the top. I used to take a nap on that most days and managed to have the keys fall out of my pocket, into one of those drains without me noticing. After a lot of head scratching I decided that that must have been what had happened to the keys and sure enough, when I looked in the drain, there they were. I have also never run out of petrol in any car I have ever driven except on the one occasion when I has picked up a couple of Alsatian puppies from the state capital which is more than one fill of petrol away from where I live. I brought them home in the VW Beetle with the front seat removed with the two puppies who where only 5 weeks old on some newspaper where the front passenger's seat normally is. I did manage to forget to fill up with petrol as I passed the place I usually filled it on that run I did plenty of times. Unless you have very far apart petrol stations, We do. Then you should surely have larger fuel tanks. Don't need them, just need to use the petrol stations that are open then instead of driving past them. You only need the one with any of the 3 closest state capitals and the federal capital. But I don't have to fill every time I pass one, I don't do anything like that, just remember that I do have to fill somewhere on the trip. I'd forget now and then. The only time I did that was when I was distracted by the puppys. Whenever I notice the gauge at 1./4 or less, I stop at some point later on. I let it get rather lower than that and normally fill up on the Friday when its low because the garage/yard sale run on the Saturday starts before any of the petrol stations in town are open. You can't drive more than 25 miles without a fuel station in the UK. There is just one open in the middle of the night anywhere along the middle part of that 500KM route. I don't see the problem. I just fill up whenever I see the gauge at 1/4 or less. Doesn't work here at night on long distance trips down that road. Or the other roads to the other capitals either. I'd get a 2nd fuel tank fitted. Makes more sense to just ensure that you do fill where you have to. Trivially easy now that any decent smartphone will pop up a reminder as you pass a specific relocation. Just put that petrol station in that. That's one area where google maps still could be done much better. You should be able to tell it the range of your car and when you fill and when its routing you on a trip, have it tell you where you need to fill or at least offer where you need to fill. Particularly with our freeways like the run up the Hume Highway to Sydney now. That doesn't go thru any major towns anymore so almost all the 24/7 petrol stations/truck stops are now well off the freeway so you need to be told that if you want to use one the exit will be coming up in xKM etc. It's reassuring that the locksmith is taking so long to get inside, because if an expert is having this much difficulty, so will the local scrote car/van thieves. I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally. A car that I borrowed from my local garage when my car was in for servicing had a key that had no blade and so there was no way of getting into the car if the remote key or the car battery failed. Seemed a bit of a fundamental flaw. Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? Presumably the lock ends up filled with dead insects and dirt etc. Much easier to avoid that at the back. I'm sure it could be under something, like the boot lock of a VW Beetle (new type) under the badge which rotates. More convenient to be able to unlock it from inside the car in some situations. Yes, a decent modern electronic lock would fix that. Doesn't have to be modern. It is convenient if its part of the central locking rather than unique to the bonnet. Best to have the bonnet stay locked when you're driving, Yeah, presumably that's why it generally isnt integrated with the central locking. I thought there must be a reason like that. less chance of it flying up and smashing the windscreen like mine did after I'd had a shunt earlier and ****ed the catch. The secondary release system does eliminate any risk of that except after its been damaged. There have been electric solenoid operated boot releases for decades. But fully integrated central locking is relatively modern. Rubbish. My dad had it on his 2nd hand car 25 years ago. So 30-35 years. That's relatively modern, after they were all done with just a physical key. One of them for the bonnet would be good. No need for external lock to get gunked up. Yeah, that's what I meant. The cable release always ends up breaking. I've only ever had the one break, on a Golf. Same here, on a Golf. And a Maestro, a Sierra, and an Espace. They all use the same cable. When the catch gets a bit stiff and rusty, and the cable too, it snaps. Never happened on any of mine except the Golf. I thought you drove just as old cars as me? That varys. I have bought them new since the 60s, just used the Golf for much longer than most do, 40+ years. The current Getz is getting on for 10 years old now and if it lasts as long as the Golf did may well be my last car unless some fool writes it off crashing into it. I only stopped using the Golf because I was too stupid [titter] to fix the known windscreen leak I never had a windscreen leak on the Golf. That was after a windscreen replacement. Just had one on the Getz and it doesn't leak. I did have a sunroof leak, I just taped that up as I never used it much. until it eventually rusted the floor and made it unregisterable and I couldn't be arsed to cut the rusty patch out and weld in a new bit. Haven't had to replace anything in the Getz except the battery which had an odd fault when getting close to the end of its life anyway. Mate of mine is still using the battery on his solar system. And I never bothered to replace it, had the catch end coming out the grill and just pulled on that with the bent over end and the key ring in that bend when I needed to open the bonnet. With the wire pushed back into the grill with the bent end stopping it going back inside completely. I did that too, and THREE seperate policemen told me to get it fixed, I ignored them. Never had anyone complain about it and we have a pretty stringent check of the car before registration renewal every year. It never failed our annual check, just stupid pigs saying "that's sharp". Mine isnt because of the bent end. They didn't like me pointing out that a pedestrian won't give a **** about a little scratch when they've just been flattened and broken their leg. One also tried to tell me my loose reg plate could come off and fly into someone's face, and quoted a film where it happened. I said "this is real life, not the movies", which made him very angry. Never had a cop complain about anything except a tire than needed replacing. Never had one go over the car with a fine tooth comb trying to shaft me either tho. Nothing sharp sicking out the front, because of the bent over end there is just a 12mm radius bend at the front of the car. Yeah I didn't do mine so neatly. They all saw it too because you have to open the bonnet so they can check under it for some stuff like how well secured the battery is, altho none of them have ever checked that on the Getz that I have ever noticed. I don't always see what they check tho. What's with checking the battery? So what if it comes off? Can cause a fire under bonnet. |
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