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Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will
have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. |
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On 27/12/15 16:19, ss wrote:
Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Id take it off top and bottom tiles. So instead of 34 mm of one set of tiles, take a bit off two or more sets.. -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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On 12/27/2015 11:26 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/12/15 16:19, ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Id take it off top and bottom tiles. So instead of 34 mm of one set of tiles, take a bit off two or more sets.. +1 |
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Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Half a tile + 17mm at the bottom and the same at the top. EG, if the tiles are 150mm square, set your row of bottom tiles (full ones) 92mm up from the floor / skirt, then when you get up to the ceiling, you've got another 92mm piece. Bigger pieces always look better than small slivers of tile wedged in. |
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On 27/12/2015 16:39, Phil L wrote:
ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Half a tile + 17mm at the bottom and the same at the top. EG, if the tiles are 150mm square, set your row of bottom tiles (full ones) 92mm up from the floor / skirt, then when you get up to the ceiling, you've got another 92mm piece. Bigger pieces always look better than small slivers of tile wedged in. OK thanks, that makes sense. |
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On 27/12/2015 16:29, ss wrote:
On 27/12/2015 16:39, Phil L wrote: ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Half a tile + 17mm at the bottom and the same at the top. EG, if the tiles are 150mm square, set your row of bottom tiles (full ones) 92mm up from the floor / skirt, then when you get up to the ceiling, you've got another 92mm piece. Bigger pieces always look better than small slivers of tile wedged in. OK thanks, that makes sense. I'd probably go for 34mm at the top although, by the time you get up there, that measurement might change if the walls are less than perfect. Best to keep an eye on that and skip a spacer here and there on the way up to maintain a uniform gap at the top. Basically a question of taste. I like to see full tiles at floor level |
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writes ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Half a tile + 17mm at the bottom and the same at the top. EG, if the tiles are 150mm square, set your row of bottom tiles (full ones) 92mm up from the floor / skirt, then when you get up to the ceiling, you've got another 92mm piece. Bigger pieces always look better than small slivers of tile wedged in. +1 -- Tim Lamb |
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On 27/12/15 16:19, ss wrote:
Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? 34mm is not a narrow cut I had 20mm on one of mine (unavoidable) and I *just* managed it with a Rubi score-n-snap cutter. If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? Top I think - people don't get up close there. I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Don't go heavy on the spacers - I did on the floor tiles and it's a mistake - you end up with a massive grout line = a massive stripe when it gets grubby. |
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On 27/12/2015 20:05, Tim Watts wrote:
Don't go heavy on the spacers - I did on the floor tiles and it's a mistake - you end up with a massive grout line = a massive stripe when it gets grubby. Yes I plan to use 3mm for walls and floor. |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message news On 27/12/15 16:19, ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? 34mm is not a narrow cut I had 20mm on one of mine (unavoidable) and I *just* managed it with a Rubi score-n-snap cutter. If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? Top I think - people don't get up close there. But it is rather more visible there. I agree that tiles with a bit off at the top and the bottom generally looks better. I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Don't go heavy on the spacers - I did on the floor tiles and it's a mistake - you end up with a massive grout line = a massive stripe when it gets grubby. |
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On 27/12/2015 16:19, ss wrote:
Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. As lots of people have already said, don't start with a full tile at the bottom, and equalise the top and bottom part tiles. As an alternative, if you can find some compatible border tiles which are 34mm (or a bit more) wide, you could create an "effect" by putting a row of those half way up the wall. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On 27/12/2015 16:19, ss wrote:
Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? Have you taken into account of a skirting board or similar? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. For the floor I used 5mm spacers. I take what others say, but not sure if 3mm gap for a 500mm tile would look right? |
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On 27/12/2015 16:19, ss wrote:
Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? What is the size of the tile. With very large tiles a cut of 34mm may look out of place. A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. I'm in the process of tiling my bathroom with 500mm (x 250mm) tiles and to avoid narrow cuts I've elected for a higher wastage and have used a 300mm cut tile at the bottom and similar at the top. Unfortunately the off cuts don't fit anywhere else so I'll end up with 25% wastage. In my 1905 property none of the walls are square and the floor ceiling height one end of the room is 15mm different to the other end. If your property is similar make sure you calculate the spacing based on the worst case measurement or your 34mm may end up as, say 15mm in the bit that anyone will notice first. -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 27/12/2015 21:30, alan_m wrote:
What is the size of the tile. With very large tiles a cut of 34mm may look out of place. Tile size 25 x 40 cm |
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On 27/12/2015 16:19, ss wrote:
Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? Neither - move the tiles down a bit to make the top section bigger, so you get half (ish) a tile at top and bottom. Generally try and avoid narrow slips of tile (especially near corners (where they may any error in the square of the wall very obvious) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 28/12/15 04:01, John Rumm wrote:
On 27/12/2015 16:19, ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? Neither - move the tiles down a bit to make the top section bigger, so you get half (ish) a tile at top and bottom. Generally try and avoid narrow slips of tile (especially near corners (where they may any error in the square of the wall very obvious) Or simp0ly fill the 34mm top gap with grout. -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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On 28/12/2015 08:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/12/15 04:01, John Rumm wrote: On 27/12/2015 16:19, ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? Neither - move the tiles down a bit to make the top section bigger, so you get half (ish) a tile at top and bottom. Generally try and avoid narrow slips of tile (especially near corners (where they may any error in the square of the wall very obvious) Or simp0ly fill the 34mm top gap with grout. OMG |
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On 28/12/15 08:50, stuart noble wrote:
On 28/12/2015 08:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/15 04:01, John Rumm wrote: On 27/12/2015 16:19, ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? Neither - move the tiles down a bit to make the top section bigger, so you get half (ish) a tile at top and bottom. Generally try and avoid narrow slips of tile (especially near corners (where they may any error in the square of the wall very obvious) Or simp0ly fill the 34mm top gap with grout. OMG it depends on the look you want. I've fished tiles before the ceiling, applied a coving over the last bit and painted it, or used grout to fill quite wide gaps. All look ok. -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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On 28/12/15 09:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/12/15 08:50, stuart noble wrote: On 28/12/2015 08:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/15 04:01, John Rumm wrote: On 27/12/2015 16:19, ss wrote: Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? Neither - move the tiles down a bit to make the top section bigger, so you get half (ish) a tile at top and bottom. Generally try and avoid narrow slips of tile (especially near corners (where they may any error in the square of the wall very obvious) Or simp0ly fill the 34mm top gap with grout. OMG it depends on the look you want. I've fished tiles before the ceiling, applied a coving over the last bit and painted it, or used grout to fill quite wide gaps. All look ok. Combination of methods in my bathroom: a strip of narrow border tiles, the top of the tiles not quite reaching the ceiling, and a suspended ceiling which hangs below the top of the tiles. -- djc (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree. |
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On Sunday, 27 December 2015 16:19:46 UTC, ss wrote:
Having measured the height of the wall to be tiled it looks like I will have a gap of 34mm at either the top or bottom of the wall. How would you best deal with this? A narrow cut of tile or some other method? If a narrow cut of tile then at the bottom or top? I could use 5mm spacers to lessen it but would prefer using 3mm spacers. Measure to the centre of the wall and put the centre of a tile on that line. Then there will be no narrow cuts. When measuring one always has to decide whether to put a joint on the centre line of the wall or a tile. |
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On 28/12/2015 06:40, harry wrote:
Measure to the centre of the wall and put the centre of a tile on that line. Then there will be no narrow cuts. That depends on the size of the tile, the length of the wall, floor(skirting) to ceiling height. You could end up with small slithers of tile top and bottom AND left and right -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 28/12/2015 09:37, alan_m wrote:
On 28/12/2015 06:40, harry wrote: Measure to the centre of the wall and put the centre of a tile on that line. Then there will be no narrow cuts. That depends on the size of the tile, the length of the wall, floor(skirting) to ceiling height. You could end up with small slithers of tile top and bottom AND left and right Slivers are fine if they're accurately cut and the wall is sound. Slither describes what can happen to an unsupported tile when gravity wins over suction :-) |
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On Monday, 28 December 2015 09:37:17 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 28/12/2015 06:40, harry wrote: Measure to the centre of the wall and put the centre of a tile on that line. Then there will be no narrow cuts. That depends on the size of the tile, the length of the wall, floor(skirting) to ceiling height. You could end up with small slithers of tile top and bottom AND left and right No, you can always avoid "slivers" by doing either one or the other. Think about it. |
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