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"RJH" wrote in message ... I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? I have installed several. It is a PIA (time consuming) but not difficult. If it's near the crest of the roof then slates can be removed all the way up, you would need a ripper to get them off undamaged. If it's lower down, it's not practical to remove a large number of slates. So the top ones/rows you took out; can be refitted with a wire latching device instead of nails (the slates are just shoved up under the ones above until the wire things engage.) You need to allow plenty of time and be prepared for the unexpected. (Eg rot in roof timbers/battens too.) And have a good tarpualin and means of securing it. And maybe a few spare slates and the means of cutting them. You might be able to do a lot of the work from inside, ie working through the window hole/frame. |
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I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The
frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . .. . any comment? -- Cheers, Rob |
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RJH wrote:
I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? Don't take any risks. Bill |
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:06:51 +0100, RJH wrote:
I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? When I fitted some Velux roof lights into my clay tiled roof some years ago I was able to do everything from inside, including breaking through and then opening up the hole to the right size, fitting the frame, flashing and then replcing tiles (had to cut some to fit). About a days work for each one. Assuming that the opening window in both the Velux and the Rooflite are removable from the frame you ought to be able to do the whole lot from inside without climbing onto the roof. |
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:06:51 +0100, RJH wrote:
I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? The generic ones from Travis Perkins seem O.K. We have three of them in our extension roof. No advice about fitting them into an existing roof. Cheers Dave R -- Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box |
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On 11/04/2015 09:56, Davidm wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:06:51 +0100, RJH wrote: I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? When I fitted some Velux roof lights into my clay tiled roof some years ago I was able to do everything from inside, including breaking through and then opening up the hole to the right size, fitting the frame, flashing and then replcing tiles (had to cut some to fit). About a days work for each one. Assuming that the opening window in both the Velux and the Rooflite are removable from the frame you ought to be able to do the whole lot from inside without climbing onto the roof. Exactly my experience fitting a Wickes clone to a concrete tiled roof. Easier than I expected. But I can see that slates might be much more awkward. |
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On 10/04/2015 14:35, harryagain wrote:
"RJH" wrote in message ... I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? I have installed several. It is a PIA (time consuming) but not difficult. If it's near the crest of the roof then slates can be removed all the way up, you would need a ripper to get them off undamaged. If it's lower down, it's not practical to remove a large number of slates. So the top ones/rows you took out; can be refitted with a wire latching device instead of nails (the slates are just shoved up under the ones above until the wire things engage.) You need to allow plenty of time and be prepared for the unexpected. (Eg rot in roof timbers/battens too.) And have a good tarpualin and means of securing it. And maybe a few spare slates and the means of cutting them. You might be able to do a lot of the work from inside, ie working through the window hole/frame. Thanks for that. I'm in two minds whether to give it a go. A couple of additional details that might be relevant - it's nowhere near the crest, I can access the inside of the roof (room gutted and awaiting boarding/plastering) so that might make removing tiles easier, and I have no intention of getting out on the roof. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On 11/04/2015 05:01, Bill Wright wrote:
RJH wrote: I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? Don't take any risks. To life/limb? No chance - just watching people on roofs makes me feel dizzy! -- Cheers, Rob |
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On 12/04/2015 13:51, newshound wrote:
On 11/04/2015 09:56, Davidm wrote: On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:06:51 +0100, RJH wrote: I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? When I fitted some Velux roof lights into my clay tiled roof some years ago I was able to do everything from inside, including breaking through and then opening up the hole to the right size, fitting the frame, flashing and then replcing tiles (had to cut some to fit). About a days work for each one. Assuming that the opening window in both the Velux and the Rooflite are removable from the frame you ought to be able to do the whole lot from inside without climbing onto the roof. Exactly my experience fitting a Wickes clone to a concrete tiled roof. Easier than I expected. But I can see that slates might be much more awkward. Yes, it's the slates. I need to do a bit of reading and a closer examination of the roof. it looks quite tatty to my eye - 100 year+ slates. -- Cheers, Rob |
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"RJH" wrote in message ... On 10/04/2015 14:35, harryagain wrote: "RJH" wrote in message ... I need to replace an old Velux window set in a pitched slate roof. The frame's rotten,something leaks and the glass has blown. Velux replacement (SK06, 114x118cm) is about £600, including collar and flashing. A Rooflite Nito of the same size is about £270, including collar and flashing. As I'm not intending to stay here more than a couple of years, any cautionary tales relating to the choice of Rooflite? Also, I was going to have a go at fixing it - it looks simple enough at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYr4d4vBWc But a joiner/handyman mate wouldn't quote for fitting. He was saying they can be a world of pain, often needing many courses of slate stripping back, and wouldn't be a job he'd consider. I can sort of see his point looking at that video, but I've not worked on a roof before . . . any comment? I have installed several. It is a PIA (time consuming) but not difficult. If it's near the crest of the roof then slates can be removed all the way up, you would need a ripper to get them off undamaged. If it's lower down, it's not practical to remove a large number of slates. So the top ones/rows you took out; can be refitted with a wire latching device instead of nails (the slates are just shoved up under the ones above until the wire things engage.) You need to allow plenty of time and be prepared for the unexpected. (Eg rot in roof timbers/battens too.) And have a good tarpualin and means of securing it. And maybe a few spare slates and the means of cutting them. You might be able to do a lot of the work from inside, ie working through the window hole/frame. Thanks for that. I'm in two minds whether to give it a go. A couple of additional details that might be relevant - it's nowhere near the crest, I can access the inside of the roof (room gutted and awaiting boarding/plastering) so that might make removing tiles easier, and I have no intention of getting out on the roof. Well so long as it can be "dehinged" ie the opening bit removed from the frame there should be no problem. The thing you may not have is the ripper. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004QHEN1...linkCode%3Dasn |
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