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Only DIY in the sense that I am trying to fix it; plenty of expertise
here though! I have an Acer E1-572P about 9 months old which was fine once I got over the hassle of stripping out the bloat, updating 8 so that I could upgrade to 8.1, then updating that. But three weeks ago (after a windows update) I had a form of BSOD with "page fault in non paged area", initially recovered by going to a restore point, but then it reappeared, it wouldn't recover from the USB recovery drive which I made at setup time, and I had to go back to a fresh install with best part of a day wasted in the cleanup and reinstall process. The only "new" software installed was Office 365. Today I found I needed a Java install (to access a VPN) and on attempting to restart, hit the BSOD again. It passes the built-in windows memory test, sfc/scannow suggests there are corrupted system files but I can't immediately make any sense of the 384k CBS.LOG file. I don't have any install disks. I am inclined to take it back to the supplier and jump up and down, but does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be wrong? I am reluctant to spend too long on it. I actually find them quite nice machines (not too bulky but good screen and keyboard), I suppose I could turn it into a linux box. TIA |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 12:21:41 +0000
newshound wrote: I am inclined to take it back to the supplier and jump up and down, but does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be wrong? I am reluctant to spend too long on it. I actually find them quite nice machines (not too bulky but good screen and keyboard), I suppose I could turn it into a linux box. Do that, and retain the Windows in a separate partition in case you want to continue to play with it. That way, you have a useable machine while still trying to sort out Windows. Then realise that you don't need Windows anyway. -- Davey. |
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On 03/02/2015 12:21, newshound wrote:
I have an Acer E1-572P about 9 months old which was fine once I got over the hassle of stripping out the bloat, updating 8 so that I could upgrade to 8.1, then updating that. But three weeks ago (after a windows update) I had a form of BSOD with "page fault in non paged area"... From memory, there was an issue with a recent Windows update that caused problems for some machines. I believe Microsoft issued a fix. -- F www.vulcantothesky.org - keep the last remaining Vulcan flying |
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On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 12:21:45 PM UTC, newshound wrote:
Only DIY in the sense that I am trying to fix it; plenty of expertise here though! I have an Acer E1-572P about 9 months old which was fine once I got over the hassle of stripping out the bloat, updating 8 so that I could upgrade to 8.1, then updating that. But three weeks ago (after a windows update) I had a form of BSOD with "page fault in non paged area", initially recovered by going to a restore point, but then it reappeared, it wouldn't recover from the USB recovery drive which I made at setup time, and I had to go back to a fresh install with best part of a day wasted in the cleanup and reinstall process. The only "new" software installed was Office 365. Today I found I needed a Java install (to access a VPN) and on attempting to restart, hit the BSOD again. It passes the built-in windows memory test, sfc/scannow suggests there are corrupted system files but I can't immediately make any sense of the 384k CBS.LOG file. I don't have any install disks. I am inclined to take it back to the supplier and jump up and down, but does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be wrong? I am reluctant to spend too long on it. I actually find them quite nice machines (not too bulky but good screen and keyboard), I suppose I could turn it into a linux box. TIA If you do linux it you simply wont have these problems in future. If a linux distro doesnt behave with your machine, its trivial to put another linux disc in, and if all is well install it I learnt the time wasting way that windows is best not to spend too much time on. NT |
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On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 8:14:17 PM UTC, newshound wrote:
On 03/02/2015 19:10, wrote: snip If you do linux it you simply wont have these problems in future. If a linux distro doesnt behave with your machine, its trivial to put another linux disc in, and if all is well install it I learnt the time wasting way that windows is best not to spend too much time on. NT Agreed. I just gave up after spending an hour trying to move contacts from my old windows phone to a new android one. Can't get the old phone to synchronise to any of my MS accounts (hotmail, livemail, outlook). I'm still looking for some ammunition to hit the laptop supplier with, though. I wouldn't be *too* unhappy if they just gave me a non-oem Win 8.1 install disk, at least that would avoid the bloat and the multiple update downloads. Best I can suggest is dont pay for windows in the first place. Since I went linux I've not looked back. 99% is self explanatory, but I had to learn about mounting discs. Easy enough. NT |
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"newshound" wrote in message o.uk... On 03/02/2015 19:10, wrote: snip If you do linux it you simply wont have these problems in future. If a linux distro doesnt behave with your machine, its trivial to put another linux disc in, and if all is well install it I learnt the time wasting way that windows is best not to spend too much time on. Agreed. I just gave up after spending an hour trying to move contacts from my old windows phone to a new android one. Takes seconds if you use PhoneCopy. Can't get the old phone to synchronise to any of my MS accounts (hotmail, livemail, outlook). Ditto. I'm still looking for some ammunition to hit the laptop supplier with, though. I wouldn't be *too* unhappy if they just gave me a non-oem Win 8.1 install disk, at least that would avoid the bloat and the multiple update downloads. |
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On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 21:51:23 UTC, wrote:
Best I can suggest is dont pay for windows in the first place. Since I went linux I've not looked back. 99% is self explanatory, ... .... and the remaining 1 % is completely insoluble because the manufacturer doesn't support the hardware or the software isn't available. Owain |
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"Dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 03/02/2015 22:11, wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 21:51:23 UTC, wrote: Best I can suggest is dont pay for windows in the first place. Since I went linux I've not looked back. 99% is self explanatory, ... ... and the remaining 1 % is completely insoluble because the manufacturer doesn't support the hardware or the software isn't available. Its always solvable, Nope. you just write your own software, Not possible if the manufacturer doesn’t release the details. that's what open source is for. But isn't feasible if the manufacturer doesn’t release the details. |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:50:46 +0000
"michael newport" wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 12:28:13 +0000, Davey wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 12:21:41 +0000 newshound wrote: I am inclined to take it back to the supplier and jump up and down, but does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be wrong? I am reluctant to spend too long on it. I actually find them quite nice machines (not too bulky but good screen and keyboard), I suppose I could turn it into a linux box. Do that, and retain the Windows in a separate partition in case you want to continue to play with it. That way, you have a useable machine while still trying to sort out Windows. Then realise that you don't need Windows anyway. When I saw read the O/P I bet myself which respondent would say what you just did. I bet No 1 - and I won! What a really usless reply to give someone. It's the same as giving directions to someone by saying 'I wouldn't start from here'. Usless, outdated and we've heard it a zillion times before. There seem to be several other posters who agree with me. -- Davey. |
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On 03/02/2015 22:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/02/15 22:11, wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 21:51:23 UTC, wrote: Best I can suggest is dont pay for windows in the first place. Since I went linux I've not looked back. 99% is self explanatory, ... ... and the remaining 1 % is completely insoluble because the manufacturer doesn't support the hardware or the software isn't available. ???? what ARE you on about? That sounds more like OS-X... Owain When I installed Linux, everything worked, I didn't have to hunt for any drivers. |
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Bod wrote:
When I installed Linux, everything worked, I didn't have to hunt for any drivers. That is of course the general situation with Linux installations. Everything you need (applications and drivers) lives in one Linux repository and gets installed as needed. Getting drivers from a particular manufacturer's web site just doesn't happen, neither does the 'searching for drivers' that you often hear about with Windows. Now this does mean that Linux doesn't work with every single device out there but the coverage is pretty good. The only exceptions tend to be where a manufacturer has written a custom driver that doesn't conform to existing standards. In my personal experience the only things that don't "just work" in Linux are Garmin SatNavs, some functions of smartphones and an Epson scanner (which works in Linux, but the custom software for Windows is good enough for me to want to use it). -- Chris Green · |
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On 04/02/15 00:10, Davey wrote:
It's the same as giving directions to someone by saying 'I wouldn't start from here'. Usless, outdated and we've heard it a zillion times before. There seem to be several other posters who agree with me. I think the 'well if I were here I wouldn't go there' approach is more valid than people assume. If there is a purpose to going to there, maybe that purpose can more easily be satisfied by going *somewhere else instead*. -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On 04/02/15 09:14, Bod wrote:
On 03/02/2015 22:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 03/02/15 22:11, wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 21:51:23 UTC, wrote: Best I can suggest is dont pay for windows in the first place. Since I went linux I've not looked back. 99% is self explanatory, ... ... and the remaining 1 % is completely insoluble because the manufacturer doesn't support the hardware or the software isn't available. ???? what ARE you on about? That sounds more like OS-X... Owain When I installed Linux, everything worked, I didn't have to hunt for any drivers. Exactly. The last time I *had* to manually install a driver was to get an ageing laptops broadcom wifi chipset to squawk. The reason for manual installation being that broadcomm wrote the driver and didn't release its source code..so legally it couldn't be included as part of the main distribution. I have also added Nvidia graphic drivers manually, but the default drivers work as well so I didn't need to. The current workaround seems to be an unholy compromise that whilst you cant actually include non-free code as part of the distribution, you can include code that is capable of downloading it from somewhere else and installing it... -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:30:57 +0000
The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 04/02/15 00:10, Davey wrote: It's the same as giving directions to someone by saying 'I wouldn't start from here'. Usless, outdated and we've heard it a zillion times before. There seem to be several other posters who agree with me. I think the 'well if I were here I wouldn't go there' approach is more valid than people assume. If there is a purpose to going to there, maybe that purpose can more easily be satisfied by going *somewhere else instead*. You may be right, I think...... And I still think that my original message was valid, there was nothing wrong with the advice I offered, old or not. -- Davey. |
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On 04/02/15 10:45, Davey wrote:
My Samsung laptop's NVIDIA card had problems working with Ubuntu 10.04, and needed some work to sort out, but ver. 12.04 just loaded up and ran the card without any intervention required. And I don't miss the interminable hours taken for Windows updates to download and then install, I just don't bother to connect Windows to the internet any more. Yes. I never actually noticed it happening, but at some point in the last 5 years using a modern Linux actually was EASIER than using a modern windows in terms of installation upgrades and general user friendliness. -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote:
To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £30a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 03/02/2015 21:01, Dennis@home wrote:
On 03/02/2015 20:14, newshound wrote: On 03/02/2015 19:10, wrote: snip If you do linux it you simply wont have these problems in future. If a linux distro doesnt behave with your machine, its trivial to put another linux disc in, and if all is well install it I learnt the time wasting way that windows is best not to spend too much time on. NT Agreed. I just gave up after spending an hour trying to move contacts from my old windows phone to a new android one. Can't get the old phone to synchronise to any of my MS accounts (hotmail, livemail, outlook). I'm still looking for some ammunition to hit the laptop supplier with, though. I wouldn't be *too* unhappy if they just gave me a non-oem Win 8.1 install disk, at least that would avoid the bloat and the multiple update downloads. Tried..? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-refresh-media Thanks, yes I had thought about trying that (I have another "currently good" E1-572P running 8.1). However IME a lot of MS official help looks very useful at first sight, but ends up not working at all. My latest instance was yesterday, apparently detailed instructions on how to download windows phone contacts to a .csf file, except that I couldn't get the phone to synchronise to any of my MS accounts, and even if I had, the MS account web pages have changed so that the download options are not where the original help said. I am rapidly running out of patience with MS. When another Windows ultrabook died recently (hardware fault, accepted by supplier) I ended up getting my first Mac as a replacement. (I do need to retain *some* windows capability because I sometimes use MathCAD and I have a windows license). |
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On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:37 +0000, "Dennis@home" wrote:
On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. I have Linux Mint on what was an old WinXP box, the Canon A4 scanner was recognised and worked as soon as I tried using it. Maybe I was lucky and I realise that one working example does not refute any expertise in the subject that you may have. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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Paul Herber wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:37 +0000, "Dennis@home" wrote: On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. I have Linux Mint on what was an old WinXP box, the Canon A4 scanner was recognised and worked as soon as I tried using it. Maybe I was lucky and I realise that one working example does not refute any expertise in the subject that you may have. I have an Artec flatbed scanner, and as long as I put the .cfg file where it can be found, according to the instructions, then SANE works just fine on my Ubuntu, vers. 8.04, 10.04, and 12.04. -- Davey. |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:20:58 +0000, Paul Herber wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:37 +0000, "Dennis@home" wrote: On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. I have Linux Mint on what was an old WinXP box, the Canon A4 scanner was recognised and worked as soon as I tried using it. Maybe I was lucky and I realise that one working example does not refute any expertise in the subject that you may have. I'm sure it would *work*. But the Windows software is truly excellent and has extensive capabilities. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £30a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:46:15 +0000, Davey wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:20:58 +0000 Paul Herber wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:37 +0000, "Dennis@home" wrote: On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. I have Linux Mint on what was an old WinXP box, the Canon A4 scanner was recognised and worked as soon as I tried using it. Maybe I was lucky and I realise that one working example does not refute any expertise in the subject that you may have. I have an Artec flatbed scanner, and as long as I put the .cfg file where it can be found, according to the instructions, then SANE works just fine on my Ubuntu, vers. 8.04, 10.04, and 12.04. As I said, I'm sure I could get SANE to work. But the facilities provided by the Windows software, out of the box, go way beyond that. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £30a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 04/02/2015 16:20, Paul Herber wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:37 +0000, "Dennis@home" wrote: On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. I have Linux Mint on what was an old WinXP box, the Canon A4 scanner was recognised and worked as soon as I tried using it. Maybe I was lucky and I realise that one working example does not refute any expertise in the subject that you may have. My brother mfc wasn't. When I did get it recognised it wouldn't scan multiple pages from the adf or do double sided or anything else useful like working over the network only usb. Pretty cr@p really and not worth the effort when it just works on windows with paperport. |
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On 04/02/15 17:08, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:20:58 +0000, Paul Herber wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:37 +0000, "Dennis@home" wrote: On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. I have Linux Mint on what was an old WinXP box, the Canon A4 scanner was recognised and worked as soon as I tried using it. Maybe I was lucky and I realise that one working example does not refute any expertise in the subject that you may have. I'm sure it would *work*. But the Windows software is truly excellent and has extensive capabilities. what more than the ability to scan a page do you NEED from scanning software? All the smarts in is in the bitmap editing software you will use. -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On 04/02/15 17:09, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:46:15 +0000, Davey wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:20:58 +0000 Paul Herber wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:37 +0000, "Dennis@home" wrote: On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. I have Linux Mint on what was an old WinXP box, the Canon A4 scanner was recognised and worked as soon as I tried using it. Maybe I was lucky and I realise that one working example does not refute any expertise in the subject that you may have. I have an Artec flatbed scanner, and as long as I put the .cfg file where it can be found, according to the instructions, then SANE works just fine on my Ubuntu, vers. 8.04, 10.04, and 12.04. As I said, I'm sure I could get SANE to work. But the facilities provided by the Windows software, out of the box, go way beyond that. simplescan actually. but again, so what? I dont need all that ****. I just want to scan. I'll clean up in the gimp later on -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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IT problem (slightly OT)
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 18:17:54 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/02/15 17:08, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:20:58 +0000, Paul Herber wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:37 +0000, "Dennis@home" wrote: On 04/02/2015 11:05, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:45:08 +0000, Davey wrote: To that list, I would add the VCR-PC device EZCap, which I could not get to work with Linux, even with the help of folks in the UK Linux NG. It is quite possible that there is a way, but when the Windows software supplied, which was what it was designed for, works fine, that is what I use. If it were not for that one instance, I would not bother to keep Win7 on my machine. I have to have Win7 around for a few work related things, and to run the chip programmer. Add to that the Fujitsu ScanSnap software, which is very good indeed; there's no way I would replace that with SANE or anything. Not that I use upstart systems like Linux... Scanner use in linux is terrible. It needs a program like paperport to sort it out but there isn't one. I have Linux Mint on what was an old WinXP box, the Canon A4 scanner was recognised and worked as soon as I tried using it. Maybe I was lucky and I realise that one working example does not refute any expertise in the subject that you may have. I'm sure it would *work*. But the Windows software is truly excellent and has extensive capabilities. what more than the ability to scan a page do you NEED from scanning software? All the smarts in is in the bitmap editing software you will use. You cleraly haven't seen the software, then. Most of what needs doing can be automated; throw in a wad of paper and out comes one...or fifty...PDFs as required. Or a Word file, OCR'd. Yes, it can be done with other software....but not out of the box with one push of a button. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £30a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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IT problem (slightly OT)
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 18:18:58 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
but again, so what? I dont need all that ****. I just want to scan. I'll clean up in the gimp later on Cleanup (if required) is a separate issue. Yes, I'd use Gimp for that if required, but largely it's just done on the fly. Much easier and quicker. You clearly haven't seen the capabilities of this software. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £30a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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