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Hi all,
For the sake of convenience, I'd like to use just one isolator for both a sink and a toilet in a bathroom. This isolator will be under the sink, but the toilet it also controls will be at the other end of the room. Is this arrangement kosher? cheers. |
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Hi all, For the sake of convenience, I'd like to use just one isolator for both a sink and a toilet in a bathroom. This isolator will be under the sink, but the toilet it also controls will be at the other end of the room. Is this arrangement kosher? cheers. I don't think any BRs cover number and position of isolation valves so you do what you want. |
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On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:15:48 PM UTC, cd wrote:
Hi all, For the sake of convenience, I'd like to use just one isolator for both a sink and a toilet in a bathroom. This isolator will be under the sink, but the toilet it also controls will be at the other end of the room. Is this arrangement kosher? cheers. The only reg you might have is an anti-syphoning or one-way valve may need to be fitted on the potable water supply. |
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THanks, guys.
Potable? Why not just say drinking? Aqua Potable is a Spanish term for drinking water, don't want that foreign muck over here. ;-) This isn't drinking water anyway. |
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On 02/12/14 13:15, cd wrote:
Hi all, For the sake of convenience, I'd like to use just one isolator for both a sink and a toilet in a bathroom. This isolator will be under the sink, but the toilet it also controls will be at the other end of the room. Is this arrangement kosher? cheers. Yes. There are no rules regarding how you arrange internal isolators - do what you like. |
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On 02/12/2014 13:15, cd wrote:
Hi all, For the sake of convenience, I'd like to use just one isolator for both a sink and a toilet in a bathroom. This isolator will be under the sink, but the toilet it also controls will be at the other end of the room. Is this arrangement kosher? yup... What rules there are for plumbing don't usually cover useful stuff like usability and maintainability. (typically they are just protecting the cleanliness of the supply, and attempting to impose energy efficiency on you). -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 02/12/2014 14:00, cd wrote:
THanks, guys. Potable? Why not just say drinking? Aqua Potable is a Spanish term for drinking water, don't want that foreign muck over here. ;-) The latest building regs have replaced potable with "wholesome" anyway. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 02/12/2014 14:15, Tim Watts wrote:
On 02/12/14 13:15, cd wrote: Hi all, For the sake of convenience, I'd like to use just one isolator for both a sink and a toilet in a bathroom. This isolator will be under the sink, but the toilet it also controls will be at the other end of the room. Is this arrangement kosher? cheers. Yes. There are no rules regarding how you arrange internal isolators - do what you like. Well there are some... like no isolator in the vent pipe of a vented heating system ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:14:16 +0000, John Rumm
wrote: On 02/12/2014 14:15, Tim Watts wrote: On 02/12/14 13:15, cd wrote: Hi all, For the sake of convenience, I'd like to use just one isolator for both a sink and a toilet in a bathroom. This isolator will be under the sink, but the toilet it also controls will be at the other end of the room. Is this arrangement kosher? cheers. Yes. There are no rules regarding how you arrange internal isolators - do what you like. Well there are some... like no isolator in the vent pipe of a vented heating system ;-) Funnily enough I took this at the place I was working today https://flic.kr/p/pZkEMy I can't see a problem having an isolator on the outlet, but I can't see a good reason for it either. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On 02/12/14 19:30, Graham. wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:14:16 +0000, John Rumm wrote: On 02/12/2014 14:15, Tim Watts wrote: On 02/12/14 13:15, cd wrote: Hi all, For the sake of convenience, I'd like to use just one isolator for both a sink and a toilet in a bathroom. This isolator will be under the sink, but the toilet it also controls will be at the other end of the room. Is this arrangement kosher? cheers. Yes. There are no rules regarding how you arrange internal isolators - do what you like. Well there are some... like no isolator in the vent pipe of a vented heating system ;-) Funnily enough I took this at the place I was working today https://flic.kr/p/pZkEMy I can't see a problem having an isolator on the outlet, but I can't see a good reason for it either. It depends I guess if it is parallel with another source or not, like a boiler (as a backup)? |
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Rumm writes On 02/12/2014 14:00, cd wrote: THanks, guys. Potable? Why not just say drinking? Aqua Potable is a Spanish term for drinking water, don't want that foreign muck over here. ;-) The latest building regs have replaced potable with "wholesome" anyway. Presumably to allow displaced pipe scale to count as dietary roughage :-) -- fred it's a ba-na-na . . . . |
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On 02/12/2014 19:11, John Rumm wrote:
What rules there are for plumbing don't usually cover useful stuff like usability and maintainability. Except that the Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations require pipework under concrete or solid floors etc. to be sleeved "to ensure that the pipework is accessible and/or can be removed for maintenance or repair." This is quite a useful practical guide: https://www.wras.co.uk/plumbing_prof...allation_faqs/ -- Andy |
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On 04/12/2014 10:52, Andy Wade wrote:
On 02/12/2014 19:11, John Rumm wrote: What rules there are for plumbing don't usually cover useful stuff like usability and maintainability. Except that the Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations require pipework under concrete or solid floors etc. to be sleeved "to ensure that the pipework is accessible and/or can be removed for maintenance or repair." This is quite a useful practical guide: https://www.wras.co.uk/plumbing_prof...allation_faqs/ Indeed... useful link. I take back some of what I said above then - they seem to have expanded the scope of the WRAS regulations since last I looked. (although admittedly I was thinking more about building regs rather than WRAS previously) This one caught my eye: Q. CAN A PUMP BE INSTALLED ON A SUPPLY PIPE TO BOOST LOW PRESSURE? A. Yes - Pumps are allowed to be installed on supply pipes. However if the pump is capable of delivering more than 12 litres per minute, you must notify your water supplier and seek their consent before starting any work. Notification Page -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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