No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html

On 31/07/2014 20:20, Tomin Dotsson wrote:
No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html



I have a 'comfort' home automation system
http://www.comfort.org.uk/index_about.html

.... many on the market ... and that is the problem, no single standard.




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Was he related to stirling Moss?

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"Tomin Dotsson" wrote in message
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No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html

"Tomin Dotsson" wrote in message
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No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html




What a load of useless bollix/woffle.
Serves absolutely no purpose.

In article ,
Rick Hughes writes:
On 31/07/2014 20:20, Tomin Dotsson wrote:
No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html



I have a 'comfort' home automation system
http://www.comfort.org.uk/index_about.html

... many on the market ... and that is the problem, no single standard.

This is an area which is innovating fast and heavily using innovation to
compete. That's not generally compatible with a "single standard", as it
tends to be a blocker to innovation.

I've also installed a couple of Comfort systems - very good, but not
cheap.

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On 01/08/2014 13:07, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Rick Hughes writes:
On 31/07/2014 20:20, Tomin Dotsson wrote:
No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html



I have a 'comfort' home automation system
http://www.comfort.org.uk/index_about.html

... many on the market ... and that is the problem, no single standard.

This is an area which is innovating fast and heavily using innovation to
compete. That's not generally compatible with a "single standard", as it
tends to be a blocker to innovation.

I've also installed a couple of Comfort systems - very good, but not
cheap.



Might talk to you about that ... still have more to go

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On 01/08/2014 09:03, harryagain wrote:
"Tomin Dotsson" wrote in message
...
No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html




What a load of useless bollix/woffle.
Serves absolutely no purpose.



Because there are not FITs to sponge?

harryagain wrote
Tomin Dotsson wrote

No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote the
programs is a mate of mine ...

http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html

What a load of useless bollix/woffle.

Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just -- on it in front of it.

Serves absolutely no purpose.

Wrong, as always.

A well implemented system can be completely automatic with no
one switching anything at all manually. Very convenient to use.

Not cheap to do tho and requires a lot more maintenance than
a simple manual system.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
harryagain wrote
Tomin Dotsson wrote

No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote the
programs is a mate of mine ...

http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html

What a load of useless bollix/woffle.

Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just -- on it in front of
it.

Serves absolutely no purpose.

Wrong, as always.

A well implemented system can be completely automatic with no
one switching anything at all manually. Very convenient to use.

Not cheap to do tho and requires a lot more maintenance than
a simple manual system.

So why bother? Just a geek's mad dream.

"harryagain" wrote in message ...


"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
harryagain wrote
Tomin Dotsson wrote

No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote the
programs is a mate of mine ...

http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html

What a load of useless bollix/woffle.

Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just -- on it in front of
it.

Serves absolutely no purpose.

Wrong, as always.

A well implemented system can be completely automatic with no
one switching anything at all manually. Very convenient to use.

Not cheap to do tho and requires a lot more maintenance than
a simple manual system.

So why bother? Just a geek's mad dream.

No more mad than yours.

On 31/07/14 20:20, Tomin Dotsson wrote:
No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...

This programme was well written...

George's House
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCxv64kqg4k

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harryagain wrote
Rod Speed wrote
harryagain wrote
Tomin Dotsson wrote

No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote the
programs is a mate of mine ...

http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html

What a load of useless bollix/woffle.

Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just -- on it in front of
it.

Serves absolutely no purpose.

Wrong, as always.

A well implemented system can be completely automatic with no
one switching anything at all manually. Very convenient to use.

Not cheap to do tho and requires a lot more maintenance than
a simple manual system.

So why bother?

Because its very convenient to use, stupid.

On 03/08/14 10:39, Adrian C wrote:
On 31/07/14 20:20, Tomin Dotsson wrote:
No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...

This programme was well written...

George's House
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCxv64kqg4k


Lol - that is my feeling about gadgets.

I love them, but you need to be able to operate the house when the
gadgets die.

On Sunday, 3 August 2014 11:34:05 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/08/14 10:39, Adrian C wrote:

On 31/07/14 20:20, Tomin Dotsson wrote:

No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote

the programs is a mate of mine ...



This programme was well written...



George's House

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCxv64kqg4k



Lol - that is my feeling about gadgets.

I love them, but you need to be able to operate the house when the
gadgets die.

operate the house, well how about the gadgets that first let people lock doors, those gadgets still go wrong today a hundred years and we still can;t make locks that don't fail or keys that don't get lost or damaged ;-)

On 04/08/14 13:54, whisky-dave wrote:

operate the house, well how about the gadgets that first let people
lock doors, those gadgets still go wrong today a hundred years and we
still can;t make locks that don't fail or keys that don't get lost or
damaged ;-)



Those gadgets ar eat least modular - you don't have to throw away all
your locks because your front door latch died and you need to fit a new
one.

On Monday, 4 August 2014 14:51:15 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 04/08/14 13:54, whisky-dave wrote:



operate the house, well how about the gadgets that first let people

lock doors, those gadgets still go wrong today a hundred years and we

still can;t make locks that don't fail or keys that don't get lost or

damaged ;-)







Those gadgets ar eat least modular - you don't have to throw away all

your locks because your front door latch died and you need to fit a new

one.

You lose the keys you change the locks and if you happen to keep those keys on the same key ring.

"Rick Hughes" wrote in message
...
On 01/08/2014 13:07, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Rick Hughes writes:
On 31/07/2014 20:20, Tomin Dotsson wrote:
No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html



I have a 'comfort' home automation system
http://www.comfort.org.uk/index_about.html

... many on the market ... and that is the problem, no single standard.

This is an area which is innovating fast and heavily using innovation to
compete. That's not generally compatible with a "single standard", as it
tends to be a blocker to innovation.

I've also installed a couple of Comfort systems - very good, but not
cheap.



Might talk to you about that ... still have more to go

Anyone that does this is barking mad.
The same can be done bylow tech means for one hundredth of the cost.

"harryagain" wrote in message
...

"Rick Hughes" wrote in message
...
On 01/08/2014 13:07, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Rick Hughes writes:
On 31/07/2014 20:20, Tomin Dotsson wrote:
No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote
the programs is a mate of mine ...


http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html



I have a 'comfort' home automation system
http://www.comfort.org.uk/index_about.html

... many on the market ... and that is the problem, no single standard.

This is an area which is innovating fast and heavily using innovation to
compete. That's not generally compatible with a "single standard", as it
tends to be a blocker to innovation.

I've also installed a couple of Comfort systems - very good, but not
cheap.



Might talk to you about that ... still have more to go

Anyone that does this is barking mad.
The same can be done bylow tech means for one hundredth of the cost.

You can 'live' in a tent for one thousandth of the cost of your house.

Only a fool is actually stupid enough to do that.

In article ,
Tim Watts writes:

I love them, but you need to be able to operate the house when the
gadgets die.

Yes, that was something I was mindful of with my house.
Heating and hot water are computer controlled, but I have an override
button to force the boiler on and I could lock the mid position valve
in the mid position, if the computer control failed. (The first system
I did doesn't have that, but so far, none of the computers have failed
in the 15 years these system have been running.)

Lighting is computer controlled too, but requires only a single micro-
controller working. All the original lighting could very easily be
reinstated with its original switching, but there are some newer lights
which don't have mains wiring to the switches and some don't have any
switches at all.

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On Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:18:39 AM UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
harryagain harry130747 wrote
Rod Speed rod.speed. wrote
harryagain harry130747 wrote
Tomin Dotsson wrote

No commercial connection with them, except that the guy who wrote the
programs is a mate of mine ...
http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/insta...me-part-1.html
What a load of useless bollix/woffle.

Serves absolutely no purpose.

Wrong, as always.
A well implemented system can be completely automatic with no
one switching anything at all manually. Very convenient to use.
Not cheap to do tho and requires a lot more maintenance than
a simple manual system.

So why bother?

Because its very convenient to use, stupid.

makes appliances more efficient. Automated venting to warm/cool, auto-off for lights & appliances, etc etc. One day it'll be worth having.


NT

On 06/08/2014 08:07, harryagain wrote:


Anyone that does this is barking mad.
The same can be done bylow tech means for one hundredth of the cost.



I had the Comfort system and all the addressable relays for free - so
why wouldn't I ?

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