I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2 core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a handheld thing.


NT

On 11 May 2014, grunted:

I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.

Is it just you using it? If so, do you care if it's "permitted", provided
you're happy it's safe?

--
David

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:34:44 AM UTC+1, wrote:
I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock.
As a short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round
the 2 core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each
end?

I had to google Class 0 appliance ...

Its a handheld thing.

A 'handheld thing' sold before 1975 and that you're too embarrassed to mention on a newsgroup?

Owain

Chuckle. Just one thing to think about. I did this once and the earth wire,
in between cable ties got itself looped around a door handle. I pulled it
and despite it having been sandwiched in the cable grip of the plug, it
pulled free inside, leaving the device, an old drill, unearthed. I fellt the
tickle and left it alone after that. the original drill had had rubber
coatedwire on it and it had perished.
I cannibalised something else for some three core in the ende, A neighbours
buggered up circular saw.
Brian

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On Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:34:44 AM UTC+1, wrote:
I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock.
As a short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round
the 2 core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each
end?

I had to google Class 0 appliance ...

Its a handheld thing.

A 'handheld thing' sold before 1975 and that you're too embarrassed to
mention on a newsgroup?

Owain

On 11/05/14 11:34, wrote:
I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.


Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth
earthing).

Do tell - what is it?

Tim Watts wrote:
On 11/05/14 11:34, wrote:
I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.


Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth earthing).

Do tell - what is it?

http://www.vibratormuseum.com/electric/index.html

Maybe? ;-)

Tim

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:33:21 PM UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
On 11/05/14 11:34, wrote:

I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.

Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth earthing).
Do tell - what is it?

http://www.vibratormuseum.com/electric/index.html
Maybe? ;-)
Tim

Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette. CPCs can be single insulated, as all T&E is, but can it be wrapped round the flex in the manner once used with 2 core lighting circuits?


NT

wrote:
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:33:21 PM UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
On 11/05/14 11:34, wrote:

I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.

Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth earthing).
Do tell - what is it?

http://www.vibratormuseum.com/electric/index.html
Maybe? ;-)
Tim

Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette.

My god you pervert!! Google for "Hoover dustette penile injuries". I kid
you not, those things are dangerous!

You wouldn't believe the awful injuries sustained by men who just "fell
over" whilst doing the vacuuming (naked). ;-)

Tim

Tim+ wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:33:21 PM UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
On 11/05/14 11:34, wrote:

I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.

Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth earthing).
Do tell - what is it?

http://www.vibratormuseum.com/electric/index.html
Maybe? ;-)
Tim

Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette.

My god you pervert!! Google for "Hoover dustette penile injuries". I kid
you not, those things are dangerous!

You wouldn't believe the awful injuries sustained by men who just "fell
over" whilst doing the vacuuming (naked). ;-)

Tim

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/1220...tml#post130937

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:34:01 PM UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:33:21 PM UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
On 11/05/14 11:34, wrote:
I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.
Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth earthing).
Do tell - what is it?
http://www.vibratormuseum.com/electric/index.html
Maybe? ;-)
Tim
Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette.
My god you pervert!! Google for "Hoover dustette penile injuries". I kid
you not, those things are dangerous!
You wouldn't believe the awful injuries sustained by men who just "fell
over" whilst doing the vacuuming (naked). ;-)
Tim

Yes, I know about the BMJ article. For anyone that hasnt read it its a real blast of weirdness. The day I heard that was one of those moments I realised just how normal I really am.

Theyre not dangerous... unless you're at the truly freaky end of the spectrum.


NT

On 11/05/2014 18:34, Tim+ wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:33:21 PM UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
On 11/05/14 11:34, wrote:

I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.

Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth earthing).
Do tell - what is it?

http://www.vibratormuseum.com/electric/index.html
Maybe? ;-)
Tim

Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette.

My god you pervert!! Google for "Hoover dustette penile injuries". I kid
you not, those things are dangerous!

With Brian's tickling experience in mind:

Perhaps NT in his old age thinks the "tickle" he gets is now too much
for him to handle!

Hence the new earthing requirement?

wrote:
Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette.

If you're trying to do away with Mrs NT you could at least let her die in pleasure with a Golden-Glo Vitalator.

The Dustette was introduced in the UK in 1930 so yours might be a bit older than 1975 :-)

Owain

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:41:33 PM UTC+1, wrote:
wrote:

Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette.

If you're trying to do away with Mrs NT you could at least let her die in pleasure with a Golden-Glo Vitalator.
The Dustette was introduced in the UK in 1930 so yours might be a bit older than 1975 :-)
Owain

I had no idea how old it was - turns out this is a 1930s one.


NT

On 11/05/14 18:04, wrote:
Hoover Dustette

Are you certain it's Class 0? Just because it has a metal case (I
assume) doesn't mean it can't be Class II

On 11/05/14 18:04, wrote:
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:33:21 PM UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
On 11/05/14 11:34, wrote:

I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock. As a
short term measure is it permitted to add a cpc wrapped round the 2
core flex, as long as its effectively cordgripped at each end? Its a
handheld thing.

Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth earthing).
Do tell - what is it?

http://www.vibratormuseum.com/electric/index.html
Maybe? ;-)
Tim

Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette. CPCs can be single insulated, as all T&E is, but can it be wrapped round the flex in the manner once used with 2 core lighting circuits?


NT


And yes, if you really want to bolt an earth on, the CPC could be bare
metal for all it mattered, so spiralling a bit of single insulated
around the main flex would be fine.

In article , Tim Watts
writes

Lol, you people. Its a Hoover Dustette. CPCs can be single insulated, as all T&E
is, but can it be wrapped round the flex in the manner once used with 2 core
lighting circuits?

And yes, if you really want to bolt an earth on, the CPC could be bare
metal for all it mattered, so spiralling a bit of single insulated
around the main flex would be fine.

In contrast, I don't think it would be suitable, particularly for a a
portable appliance. Greater risk of mechanical damage and flexure
failure on the single core. I'd say buy the right stuff and replace the
existing flex.
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

On 11/05/2014 14:06, Tim Watts wrote:

Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth
earthing).

Do tell - what is it?

I have an electric drill of that age. Belonged to my Grandfather, who
died in 1983.

TBH I hardly use it these days. Easier to use the cordless...

Andy

On 11/05/14 21:24, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 11/05/2014 14:06, Tim Watts wrote:

Class 0? So older than 1975 ish? And not fairy lights (nothing worth
earthing).

Do tell - what is it?

I have an electric drill of that age. Belonged to my Grandfather, who
died in 1983.

TBH I hardly use it these days. Easier to use the cordless...

Andy

Again - certain it's Class 0?

wrote:
I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock.

Use it through an 240-240V isolating transformer

Owain

On Monday, May 12, 2014 6:37:20 PM UTC+1, wrote:
wrote:

I have a Class 0 appliance, but not enough 3 core flex in stock.

Use it through an 240-240V isolating transformer
Owain

I just had a look, the bag's on upside down and cant go on the right way. Odd. Will soon fix tho. And as they ever are, its clogged up.


NT