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Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some damage on a largish 5cm diameter Perspex pipe for a science demo. The end got bashed and it would be expensive to replace. The repair must be waterproof and preferably clear and same RI as perspex. I am tempted to try petrol or pet ether and hope that the end of the crack doesn't run. Basically I need a low viscosity solvent glue that will go into the fine crack by capillary action. Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Friday, 21 February 2014 08:53:09 UTC, Huge wrote:
Chloroform. You can weld perspex with it, so if you run some into the crack it should weld it closed. Yes, chloroform should do it. The viscous perspex glue is often made by dissolving perspex in chloroform. Avoid acetone at all costs - it will make the perspex craze. John |
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Martin Brown wrote:
Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some damage on a largish 5cm diameter Perspex pipe for a science demo. The end got bashed and it would be expensive to replace. The repair must be waterproof and preferably clear and same RI as perspex. I am tempted to try petrol or pet ether and hope that the end of the crack doesn't run. Basically I need a low viscosity solvent glue that will go into the fine crack by capillary action. Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? Dichloromethane (methylene chloride) (the active ingredient in old paint remover. |
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On Friday, February 21, 2014 8:41:40 AM UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some damage on a largish 5cm diameter Perspex pipe for a science demo. The end got bashed and it would be expensive to replace. The repair must be waterproof and preferably clear and same RI as perspex. I am tempted to try petrol or pet ether and hope that the end of the crack doesn't run. Basically I need a low viscosity solvent glue that will go into the fine crack by capillary action. Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? Use a solvent, not a glue NT |
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F Murtz wrote: Dichloromethane (methylene chloride) (the active ingredient in old paint remover. Any easy way of buying this - as modern paint removers don't do what they say on the tin... -- *If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Friday, 21 February 2014 08:41:40 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some damage on a largish 5cm diameter Perspex pipe for a science demo. The end got bashed and it would be expensive to replace. The repair must be waterproof and preferably clear and same RI as perspex. I am tempted to try petrol or pet ether and hope that the end of the crack doesn't run. Basically I need a low viscosity solvent glue that will go into the fine crack by capillary action. Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? I've used this on clear acrylic preety good stuff but expensive. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/acryli...3D4E4F4 E4526 -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On 21/02/2014 14:16, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 21 February 2014 08:41:40 UTC, Martin Brown wrote: Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? I've used this on clear acrylic preety good stuff but expensive. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/acryli...3D4E4F4 E4526 Predominantly methylene chloride as suggested by another poster. Should be fine (don't inhale!) |
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On Friday, February 21, 2014 8:41:40 AM UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some damage on a largish 5cm diameter Perspex pipe for a science demo. The end got bashed and it would be expensive to replace. The repair must be waterproof and preferably clear and same RI as perspex. I am tempted to try petrol or pet ether and hope that the end of the crack doesn't run. Basically I need a low viscosity solvent glue that will go into the fine crack by capillary action. Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? -- Regards, Martin Brown http://www.shop4glue.com/polyweld-58ml-t hin-plastic-plas-weld-glue-adhesive-pers pex-polystyrene-acrylic-abs-hips-fivesta r-51-p.asp http://tinyurl.com/glue-shop Slightly eccentric cart system but their products are good. |
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On 21/02/2014 12:06, newshound wrote:
On 21/02/2014 09:58, wrote: On Friday, 21 February 2014 08:53:09 UTC, Huge wrote: Chloroform. You can weld perspex with it, so if you run some into the crack it should weld it closed. Yes, chloroform should do it. The viscous perspex glue is often made by dissolving perspex in chloroform. Avoid acetone at all costs - it will make the perspex craze. John +2 +3. I've used chloroform many times on perspex: let a little run into the joint and hold it closed while it melts the surfaces together and evaporates. For a thicker, more 'gluey' approach, dissolve some perspex shavings in it. |
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On Friday, February 21, 2014 5:40:50 PM UTC, newshound wrote:
On 21/02/2014 14:16, whisky-dave wrote: On Friday, 21 February 2014 08:41:40 UTC, Martin Brown wrote: Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? I've used this on clear acrylic preety good stuff but expensive. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/acryli...3D4E4F4 E4526 Predominantly methylene chloride as suggested by another poster. Should be fine (don't inhale!) Vastly safer than chloroform. Can one even buy chloroform these days? NT |
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On Friday, February 21, 2014 9:00:28 PM UTC, wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2014 5:40:50 PM UTC, newshound wrote: On 21/02/2014 14:16, whisky-dave wrote: On Friday, 21 February 2014 08:41:40 UTC, Martin Brown wrote: Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? I've used this on clear acrylic preety good stuff but expensive. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/acryli...3D4E4F4 E4526 Predominantly methylene chloride as suggested by another poster. Should be fine (don't inhale!) Vastly safer than chloroform. Can one even buy chloroform these days? Found it on ebay, not Amazon though http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261229276736 NT |
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On Saturday, February 22, 2014 1:14:42 AM UTC, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2014 9:00:28 PM UTC, wrote: On Friday, February 21, 2014 5:40:50 PM UTC, newshound wrote: http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/acryli...3D4E4F4 E4526 Predominantly methylene chloride as suggested by another poster. Vastly safer than chloroform. Can one even buy chloroform these days? Found it on ebay, not Amazon though http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261229276736 The seller grossly understates the dangers, perhaps to a similar extent to that handyman that removed the panel keeping kids from a 60' drop. I've no great concerns handling conc acids, but am very wary of chloroform. NT |
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Adam Aglionby wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261229276736 Looking at the seller's other items, makes me half-wonder if that's an MI5 honeytrap account :-P |
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On Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:03:37 AM UTC, Huge wrote:
On 2014-02-22, wrote: chloroform The seller grossly understates the dangers, perhaps to a similar extent to that handyman that removed the panel keeping kids from a 60' drop. I've no great concerns handling conc acids, but am very wary of chloroform. Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroform NT |
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
writes In article om, F Murtz wrote: Dichloromethane (methylene chloride) (the active ingredient in old paint remover. Any easy way of buying this - as modern paint removers don't do what they say on the tin... Try a model shop which caters for serious makers of plastic kits; - 'Plasticweld' or something like that. -- Chris Holford |
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On 22/02/2014 11:25, Huge wrote:
On 2014-02-22, Andy Burns wrote: Adam Aglionby wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261229276736 Looking at the seller's other items, makes me half-wonder if that's an MI5 honeytrap account :-P Lord! How much did I want some of this stuff when I was a teenager. + 1 to both! |
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On Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:01:42 PM UTC, Huge wrote:
On 2014-02-23, wrote: On Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:03:37 AM UTC, Huge wrote: On 2014-02-22, wrote: chloroform The seller grossly understates the dangers, perhaps to a similar extent to that handyman that removed the panel keeping kids from a 60' drop. I've no great concerns handling conc acids, but am very wary of chloroform. Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroform Yes, so? This is dangerous; http://pipeline.corante.com/archives...ont_work_with/ Compared to, say, chlorine trifluoride; http://pipeline.corante.com/archives..._this_time.php the dangers of other substances tell us nothing about chloroform. Chloroform is about as dangerous as peanut butter. Er, no. Peanut butter is pretty safe for kids to handle. Chloroform is a volatile toxic carcinogenic general anaesthetic. It may not be a problem for folks with the necessary knowledge, but to put it on public sale without adequate warnings is irresponsible. (Perhaps the fact that I have a (bio)chemistry degree biases my feelings in the opposite direction to you?) I've worked with it occasionally years ago, but no way would I sell it to any & every random stranger. Perhaps you would. NT |
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On Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:40:33 PM UTC, wrote:
On Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:01:42 PM UTC, Huge wrote: On 2014-02-23, wrote: On Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:03:37 AM UTC, Huge wrote: On 2014-02-22, wrote: chloroform The seller grossly understates the dangers, perhaps to a similar extent to that handyman that removed the panel keeping kids from a 60' drop. I've no great concerns handling conc acids, but am very wary of chloroform.. Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroform Yes, so? This is dangerous; http://pipeline.corante.com/archives...ont_work_with/ Compared to, say, chlorine trifluoride; http://pipeline.corante.com/archives..._this_time.php the dangers of other substances tell us nothing about chloroform. Chloroform is about as dangerous as peanut butter. Er, no. Peanut butter is pretty safe for kids to handle. Chloroform is a volatile toxic carcinogenic general anaesthetic. It may not be a problem for folks with the necessary knowledge, but to put it on public sale without adequate warnings is irresponsible. (Perhaps the fact that I have a (bio)chemistry degree biases my feelings in the opposite direction to you?) I've worked with it occasionally years ago, but no way would I sell it to any & every random stranger. Perhaps you would. When was about 14 used to get ether by the half litre from local chemists, best switch cleaner about, used to ask that I get it late in the day because decanting it would stink the shop out. Chloroform looks bargain priced aginst cost of ether on ebay nowadays... NT |
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On 21/02/2014 19:51, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2014 8:41:40 AM UTC, Martin Brown wrote: Any suggestions for a thin fluid solvent based acrylic glue to mend some damage on a largish 5cm diameter Perspex pipe for a science demo. The end got bashed and it would be expensive to replace. The repair must be waterproof and preferably clear and same RI as perspex. I am tempted to try petrol or pet ether and hope that the end of the crack doesn't run. Basically I need a low viscosity solvent glue that will go into the fine crack by capillary action. Most acrylic glues feel too thick for this job. Any suggestions? -- Regards, Martin Brown http://www.shop4glue.com/polyweld-58ml-t hin-plastic-plas-weld-glue-adhesive-pers pex-polystyrene-acrylic-abs-hips-fivesta r-51-p.asp http://tinyurl.com/glue-shop Slightly eccentric cart system but their products are good. Thanks. URL noted for future use as they do a lot of obscure glues! -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Friday, 21 February 2014 20:19:46 UTC, GMM wrote:
On 21/02/2014 12:06, newshound wrote: On 21/02/2014 09:58, wrote: On Friday, 21 February 2014 08:53:09 UTC, Huge wrote: Chloroform. You can weld perspex with it, so if you run some into the crack it should weld it closed. Yes, chloroform should do it. The viscous perspex glue is often made by dissolving perspex in chloroform. Avoid acetone at all costs - it will make the perspex craze. John +2 +3. I've used chloroform many times on perspex: We used it here for years but then H&S found it so useful they banned it, or at least put restrictions on it's storage and use, it was just too much hassle to keep. |
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