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Cooker lead extention
A friend hadd to replace their cooker so brought one but the installer said the cable was too short so he couldn't install it so left. (PC world/currys or some shop) Seems there are two options 1/ extend the cooker cable (that's too short) using a suitable junction box and cable 2/ just extend the existing lead by crimping, soldering, or terminal block with a suitable bit of cable (32 amp). Is there anyhting else I need to be aware of as it seems a relatively simple job. I'll probbely just pop in to B here and Q fort the stuff |
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On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:54:49 PM UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
A friend hadd to replace their cooker so brought one but the installer said the cable was too short so he couldn't install it so left. (PC world/currys or some shop) Seems there are two options 1/ extend the cooker cable (that's too short) using a suitable junction box and cable Yes. 2/ just extend the existing lead by crimping, soldering, or terminal block with a suitable bit of cable (32 amp). 3/ Remove the existing (presumably long enough) cable from the previous cooker and fit that to the new cooker. 4/ Get a new, long enough, bit of cable from an electrical suppliers, and fit that to the new cooker. If you go with either of these options, be sure to dispose safely of the cable you remove from the new cooker. (A toddler was killed in Scotland a couple of years ago when he plugged the cable into a power socket and took hold of the live and neutral wires coming out of the cable.) |
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Martin Bonner wrote: If you go with either of these options, be sure to dispose safely of the cable you remove from the new cooker. (A toddler was killed in Scotland a couple of years ago when he plugged the cable into a power socket and took hold of the live and neutral wires coming out of the cable.) It would be a very clever toddler who managed to plug a bare cable into a socket. I presume you mean a lead with a 13 amp plug attached which had been cut off from something? This cooker isn't plugged in. -- *Never test the depth of the water with both feet.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:16:56 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
It would be a very clever toddler who managed to plug a bare cable into a socket. I presume you mean a lead with a 13 amp plug attached which had been cut off from something? Not cut off, but disconnected from the screw terminals in the cooker - thus leaving lengths of wire exposed. http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/2011FAI17.html Having read that, I am *much* more careful about destroying plugs on cables I remove from things. I can easily imagine being that electrician. This cooker isn't plugged in. Which avoids that worry. |
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Martin Bonner wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:16:56 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: It would be a very clever toddler who managed to plug a bare cable into a socket. I presume you mean a lead with a 13 amp plug attached which had been cut off from something? Not cut off, but disconnected from the screw terminals in the cooker - thus leaving lengths of wire exposed. http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/2011FAI17.html Oven, it would seem. Some oven can be plugged into a 13 amp socket - a cooker has to be hard wired. Having read that, I am *much* more careful about destroying plugs on cables I remove from things. I can easily imagine being that electrician. This cooker isn't plugged in. Which avoids that worry. If you've hacked off a moulded on plug with or without some lead still attached then yes it should be disposed of carefully. But in any case remove the fuse first - it can be used elsewhere. Which will also make it safe. -- *It ain't the size, it's... er... no, it IS ..the size. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wednesday, 12 February 2014 14:08:26 UTC, Martin Bonner wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:54:49 PM UTC, whisky-dave wrote: A friend hadd to replace their cooker so brought one but the installer said the cable was too short so he couldn't install it so left. (PC world/currys or some shop) Seems there are two options 1/ extend the cooker cable (that's too short) using a suitable junction box and cable Yes. 2/ just extend the existing lead by crimping, soldering, or terminal block with a suitable bit of cable (32 amp). 3/ Remove the existing (presumably long enough) cable from the previous cooker and fit that to the new cooker. I'm not sure that will be possible, it looks like the original cooker was installed cooker first then the switch wired up then tiles installed. I would try using the old cooker wire as a draw cable but I have the impression that it's been p[lastered into the wall. 4/ Get a new, long enough, bit of cable from an electrical suppliers, and fit that to the new cooker. Then how do I get it to the switch if the original cable can't be removed, which is what I think the problem is. If you go with either of these options, be sure to dispose safely of the cable you remove from the new cooker. I tend to hoard such things in the loft until I lose them :-) (A toddler was killed in Scotland a couple of years ago when he plugged the cable into a power socket and took hold of the live and neutral wires coming out of the cable.) That sort of thing is worth remembering, I do this sort of thing at work with faulty equipemnt I always remove the plug and cut the cable off the device to stop someone trying to put a new plug on it. Cheers for the reply, |
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whisky-dave wrote: I'm not sure that will be possible, it looks like the original cooker was installed cooker first then the switch wired up then tiles installed. I would try using the old cooker wire as a draw cable but I have the impression that it's been p[lastered into the wall. Extend the cable using a suitable junction box. No problems with that if it's simply behind the cooker so still 'accessible'. -- *Don't byte off more than you can view * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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whisky-dave wrote:
That sort of thing is worth remembering, I do this sort of thing at work with faulty equipemnt I always remove the plug and cut the cable off the device to stop someone trying to put a new plug on it. We very often cut the plugs off aerial amps. Orders are to twist the pins with pliers until they fall off (surprisingly easy) if the scrap is left on site. Bill |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , whisky-dave wrote: I'm not sure that will be possible, it looks like the original cooker was installed cooker first then the switch wired up then tiles installed. I would try using the old cooker wire as a draw cable but I have the impression that it's been p[lastered into the wall. Extend the cable using a suitable junction box. No problems with that if it's simply behind the cooker so still 'accessible'. Indeed - or just pushed under an adjacent plinth:-) A suitable junction box would be http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AAJB60.html as it has strain relief for the cable - just in the off chance that she moves the cooker to clean behind it. -- Adam |
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