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I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013.
I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins |
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:54:40 +0000, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Not legit, no. Each version is withdrawn from retail when the new one comes out. Have you looked at LibreOffice? |
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On 16/12/13 13:58, Adrian wrote:
Have you looked at LibreOffice? Definitely better. It reads some word documents better than old versions of word do, for sure http://www.libreoffice.org/download Version 4 is a lot better than 3 was. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:59:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/12/13 13:58, Adrian wrote: Have you looked at LibreOffice? Definitely better. It reads some word documents better than old versions of word do, for sure http://www.libreoffice.org/download Version 4 is a lot better than 3 was. The beauty of Linux is you're not held to ransom by giant corporations. Tons of free applications you just download for nothing in LinuxWorld. |
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![]() I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins Try Open Office, it's free and will save documents in Word format. http://www.openoffice.us.com/ Mike |
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:53:16 +0000, Muddymike wrote:
Try Open Office, it's free and will save documents in Word format. http://www.openoffice.us.com/ LibreOffice is OpenOffice. Or, rather, it was, before the Oracle and Sun merger took OpenOffice in some unpopular directions. quick google Oh, that's interesting - I'd missed that Oracle had handed OpenOffice over to Apache. http://www.infoworld.com/d/applicati...enoffice-4-vs- libreoffice-41-224280 gives an interesting overview. The conclusions comment on document conversion from Word - but, as somebody already mentioned, even converting between Word versions can be far flakier than going to either of this pair... |
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:46:07 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Have you looked at LibreOffice? Definitely better. It reads some word documents better than old versions of word do, for sure http://www.libreoffice.org/download Version 4 is a lot better than 3 was. The beauty of Linux is you're not held to ransom by giant corporations. Tons of free applications you just download for nothing in LinuxWorld. LibreOffice and OpenOffice are both available for Windows and OSX, too... |
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On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Not from MS no. Best option would be a family pack of office 2010 from ebay. The MS offering they would like you to go for is Office 365, which will cost you around £65/year as a rental deal. However you are allowed to install 5 seats for that and get some other freebies thrown in like 25 gig of cloud storage. Note that all the Office 2013 products also require a MS account of some form to install them. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins Buy office home and student, it includes word and is about £90. Use one of the free offices. |
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On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? |
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On 16/12/13 15:53, Muddymike wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins Try Open Office, it's free and will save documents in Word format. http://www.openoffice.us.com/ Mike libre office is better. And its nothing to do with Oracle. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 16/12/13 17:19, GB wrote:
On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? probably so he can read the files generated by other later copies of 'word' -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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![]() "Muddymike" wrote in message om... I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins Try Open Office, it's free and will save documents in Word format. http://www.openoffice.us.com/ Mike Yep, it's good, does doc and docx Almost identically laid out so easy to get the hang of if you're used to Word. A few less of the less used features 0f Word. |
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On 16/12/2013 17:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/12/13 17:19, GB wrote: On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? probably so he can read the files generated by other later copies of 'word' My version of word can do that. Microsoft supply a free converter that integrates into the 2003 version. It is seamless. |
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:59:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/12/13 13:58, Adrian wrote: Have you looked at LibreOffice? Definitely better. It reads some word documents better than old versions of word do, for sure http://www.libreoffice.org/download Version 4 is a lot better than 3 was. v4.2 is due in the next month or two, but wait for 4.2.x as that usually addresses the odd little problems found after release. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On 16/12/2013 17:56, GB wrote:
On 16/12/2013 17:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 16/12/13 17:19, GB wrote: On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? probably so he can read the files generated by other later copies of 'word' My version of word can do that. Microsoft supply a free converter that integrates into the 2003 version. It is seamless. Though Word 2013 is pretty nifty at converting PDFs into Word documents. -- Rod |
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:54:40 -0000, "Jim Hawkins"
wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins "Find someone" who is a student, or teacher and buy Office 365 from somewhere like here for £53: http://www.software4students.co.uk/ |
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On Monday, December 16, 2013 6:10:27 PM UTC, polygonum wrote:
On 16/12/2013 17:56, GB wrote: On 16/12/2013 17:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 16/12/13 17:19, GB wrote: On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? probably so he can read the files generated by other later copies of 'word' My version of word can do that. Microsoft supply a free converter that integrates into the 2003 version. It is seamless. Though Word 2013 is pretty nifty at converting PDFs into Word documents. -- Rod I have the new version of Word at work.Do not go near it. The menus are not in a standard format, you will no longer know where anything is. My old 2003 documents are a bit garbled by the new Word. Download one of the free ones, or stay with what you have got. |
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![]() John Rumm wrote: On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Not from MS no. Best option would be a family pack of office 2010 from ebay. The MS offering they would like you to go for is Office 365, which will cost you around £65/year as a rental deal. However you are allowed to install 5 seats for that and get some other freebies thrown in like 25 gig of cloud storage. Note that all the Office 2013 products also require a MS account of some form to install them. Or alternatively try your local car boot sale. I'm still running word 97, it is better for drawings than later versions IMO. |
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![]() "GB" wrote in message ... On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? Only because other people I exchange documents with tend to use later versions that my 2003 one can't read. Jim Hawkins |
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 18:37:10 +0000, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? Only because other people I exchange documents with tend to use later versions that my 2003 one can't read. Office Compatibility Pack http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/downl...ails.aspx?id=3 |
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On 16/12/2013 18:27 Davidm wrote:
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:54:40 -0000, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins "Find someone" who is a student, or teacher and buy Office 365 from somewhere like here for £53: http://www.software4students.co.uk/ A grandchild can be useful in situations like this. If you don't have one, can you 'borrow' one? -- F |
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On 16/12/2013 18:37, Jim Hawkins wrote:
"GB" wrote in message ... On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? Only because other people I exchange documents with tend to use later versions that my 2003 one can't read. Have you installed the add-in to let you read/write docs from later versions? |
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On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins What's wrong with 2003 and the conversion pack (free) to open .docx files from later versions? I hate the newer versions without the proper menus. |
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On 16/12/2013 18:37, Jim Hawkins wrote:
"GB" wrote in message ... On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? Only because other people I exchange documents with tend to use later versions that my 2003 one can't read. Jim Hawkins See Adrian's post - he even gives you a link to the add-in. Helpful lot round here. ![]() |
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On 16/12/2013 18:29, misterroy wrote:
.... I have the new version of Word at work.Do not go near it. The menus are not in a standard format, you will no longer know where anything is.... It is a bit of a steep learning curve if you are thoroughly used to the older versions, but I quite like the new layout, now I have got used to it. Office 365 allows me to store documents in the cloud and work on them equally well from home or at the office. Colin Bignell |
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![]() "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:59:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 16/12/13 13:58, Adrian wrote: Have you looked at LibreOffice? Definitely better. It reads some word documents better than old versions of word do, for sure http://www.libreoffice.org/download Version 4 is a lot better than 3 was. The beauty of Linux is you're not held to ransom by giant corporations. That's not actually true One of the most "locked down" and expensive programs any giant corporation ever releases required a unix box to run The cost of software is a function of what people are willing to supply, not the box that it runs on tim Tons of free applications you just download for nothing in LinuxWorld. |
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On 16/12/2013 18:37, Jim Hawkins wrote:
"GB" wrote in message ... On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? I still use 2003. Out of interest, why do you want to 'upgrade'? Only because other people I exchange documents with tend to use later versions that my 2003 one can't read. .... and one should also point out that office 2013 does not run on anything older than Win 7 -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Why? What essential features are you lacking or do you enjoy being tormented by the ribbon? Office 2003 was a good vintage. Office 2007 was a complete dog and best avoided. 2010 was bearable. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins Only if you already have copies. You might well be better off buying Office 2013 just to get Word there are better discounts. ITR having seen it on Amazon recently for less than you have found for just Word. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins If you work for a large company that uses LOTS of copies of Microsoft Office your company may have a deal with Microsoft. I got a legitimate licences copy of 2013 Office for a few pence under £9 (for personal use only). http://www.microsofthup.com/hupuk/home.aspx You may need the appropriate passwords/keywords from your place of work. -- mailto:news{at}admac(dot}myzen{dot}co{dot}uk |
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:54:40 +0000, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Look at Kingsoft Office: free version and cheap upgrade if you want a bit more. http://www.kingsoftstore.co.uk/ -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 16/12/2013 17:16, dennis@home wrote:
On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins Buy office home and student, it includes word and is about £90. Quite so - I paid £15 IIRC. But of course it helps if you're a student or have a loose connection with education. Use one of the free offices. They're generally excellent. However, if you rely on it - and I do - the freebies are too unreliable when converting MS products. -- Cheers, Rob |
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Cursitor Doom wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:59:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 16/12/13 13:58, Adrian wrote: Have you looked at LibreOffice? Definitely better. It reads some word documents better than old versions of word do, for sure http://www.libreoffice.org/download Version 4 is a lot better than 3 was. The beauty of Linux is you're not held to ransom by giant corporations. Tons of free applications you just download for nothing in LinuxWorld. Like Firefox, Thunderbird, Open Office, etc? I'd be willing to bet there are more free apps available for Windows than Linux. But I'll leave you to do the counting. -- *If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article , Bob Eager
scribeth thus On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:54:40 +0000, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Look at Kingsoft Office: free version and cheap upgrade if you want a bit more. http://www.kingsoftstore.co.uk/ +1! -- Tony Sayer |
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On 17/12/2013 00:48, RJH wrote:
On 16/12/2013 17:16, dennis@home wrote: On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins Buy office home and student, it includes word and is about £90. Quite so - I paid £15 IIRC. But of course it helps if you're a student or have a loose connection with education. The so called "home and student" versions don't usually do any checking to see if you meet the terms. The academic or university versions normally have to be bought in a two stage process with proof of student status. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 16/12/2013 13:54, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Jim Hawkins If you go on-line you can buy a student license for a LOT less, all you have to do is tick box to confirm you are studying something - and license does not expire. |
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Yes Libra Office and Open Office by that mob called apache.
Both are now integrating their code so java Access bridge is not even needed for blind use. I'll certainly be going that route I think as Microsofts intention in the long term to make all their apps on line only is putting me off having their stuff. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Adrian" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:54:40 +0000, Jim Hawkins wrote: I see Microsoft are wanting £110 for a copy of Word 2013. I want to update my Word 2003 - but not at that price. Can you still get the versions between 2003 and 2013 ? Not legit, no. Each version is withdrawn from retail when the new one comes out. Have you looked at LibreOffice? |
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On 17/12/13 10:21, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Cursitor Doom wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:59:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 16/12/13 13:58, Adrian wrote: Have you looked at LibreOffice? Definitely better. It reads some word documents better than old versions of word do, for sure http://www.libreoffice.org/download Version 4 is a lot better than 3 was. The beauty of Linux is you're not held to ransom by giant corporations. Tons of free applications you just download for nothing in LinuxWorld. Like Firefox, Thunderbird, Open Office, etc? I'd be willing to bet there are more free apps available for Windows than Linux. But I'll leave you to do the counting. they just run BETTER on Linux .. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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"Brian Gaff" writes: Yes Libra Office and Open Office by that mob called apache. Both are now integrating their code so java Access bridge is not even needed for blind use. I'll certainly be going that route I think as Microsofts intention in the long term to make all their apps on line only is putting me off having their stuff. People (particularly businesses, which are most of the remaining Windows users at this point in time) have got wise to being forced to upgrade to each new release, and that severely dented Microsoft's revenue stream. Switching to a pay-per-use model restores a more predictable revenue stream, or so the theory goes. Quite a lot of the businesses I've worked for over the years would never allow things like document editing to be performed out in the cloud (although they probably conveniently forget the thousands of unprotected laptops they have floating around the world). -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On 17/12/13 13:52, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , "Brian Gaff" writes: Yes Libra Office and Open Office by that mob called apache. Both are now integrating their code so java Access bridge is not even needed for blind use. I'll certainly be going that route I think as Microsofts intention in the long term to make all their apps on line only is putting me off having their stuff. People (particularly businesses, which are most of the remaining Windows users at this point in time) have got wise to being forced to upgrade to each new release, and that severely dented Microsoft's revenue stream. Switching to a pay-per-use model restores a more predictable revenue stream, or so the theory goes. Quite a lot of the businesses I've worked for over the years would never allow things like document editing to be performed out in the cloud (although they probably conveniently forget the thousands of unprotected laptops they have floating around the world). Bavaria officially a windows free zone now... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/12...ource_project/ I have visions of Movember equipped Austrian corporals muttering 'Ze NSA can't see me as I type my master verk'... -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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