Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues.
The symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from
which it is reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief
flicker, press its light button (it has a button to light up the
remote's main buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times
out, press the TV button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and
it will give a brief flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will
appear to fully wake up and work normally and continue to work normally
for the rest of the viewing session. Next evening, I have to go through
a similar process. I've replaced the batteries and the TV /remote is
little used. Normal is pressing the power button, the remote flashes
its LED continuously until the button is released and the TV's own LED
flashes to indicate it is receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?

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On 04/12/2013 15:23, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues.
The symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from
which it is reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief
flicker, press its light button (it has a button to light up the
remote's main buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times
out, press the TV button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and it
will give a brief flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will
appear to fully wake up and work normally and continue to work normally
for the rest of the viewing session. Next evening, I have to go through
a similar process. I've replaced the batteries and the TV /remote is
little used. Normal is pressing the power button, the remote flashes its
LED continuously until the button is released and the TV's own LED
flashes to indicate it is receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?


Check the reservoir cap? Probably not since it still does it fresh
batteries, but my general rule is Samsung - check caps whatever the
issue is

Lee

If you are over 70 then press the buttons really hard whilst waving the
remote aggressively at the TV.

Sorry - no real suggestions,

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On 04/12/2013 15:23, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues.
The symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from
which it is reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief
flicker, press its light button (it has a button to light up the
remote's main buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times
out, press the TV button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and it
will give a brief flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will
appear to fully wake up and work normally and continue to work normally
for the rest of the viewing session. Next evening, I have to go through
a similar process. I've replaced the batteries and the TV /remote is
little used. Normal is pressing the power button, the remote flashes its
LED continuously until the button is released and the TV's own LED
flashes to indicate it is receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?

Sadly can't help, only sympathise.

I have a Samsung smart pvr and the remote seems to have a mind of its
own. Generally works in the end but the most common issue is that
sometimes it turns on the pvr and the TV on the main power button then,
after a while, stops doing that. It doesn't lose its 'tune' to the TV,
as a separate button will turn it on/off, but I can't see that anything
systematic causes its changes in behaviour and I certainly can't
simulate the changes.
Fortuantely, I bought the pvr from Richer Sounds, along with their 5yr
guarantee, and I've already swapped the remote once under this.
I'm hoping it will conk out properly within the next 3-odd years, as the
manager (discussed with him since buying) reckons they can't be arsed to
try repairing under the guarantee and just give an 'equivalent'
replacement. By now, the 'equivalent' should be significantly better....

on 04/12/2013, GMM supposed :
On 04/12/2013 15:23, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues.
The symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from
which it is reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief
flicker, press its light button (it has a button to light up the
remote's main buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times
out, press the TV button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and it
will give a brief flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will
appear to fully wake up and work normally and continue to work normally
for the rest of the viewing session. Next evening, I have to go through
a similar process. I've replaced the batteries and the TV /remote is
little used. Normal is pressing the power button, the remote flashes its
LED continuously until the button is released and the TV's own LED
flashes to indicate it is receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?

Sadly can't help, only sympathise.

I have a Samsung smart pvr and the remote seems to have a mind of its own.
Generally works in the end but the most common issue is that sometimes it
turns on the pvr and the TV on the main power button then, after a while,
stops doing that. It doesn't lose its 'tune' to the TV, as a separate button
will turn it on/off, but I can't see that anything systematic causes its
changes in behaviour and I certainly can't simulate the changes.
Fortuantely, I bought the pvr from Richer Sounds, along with their 5yr
guarantee, and I've already swapped the remote once under this.
I'm hoping it will conk out properly within the next 3-odd years, as the
manager (discussed with him since buying) reckons they can't be arsed to try
repairing under the guarantee and just give an 'equivalent' replacement. By
now, the 'equivalent' should be significantly better....

Not just mine behaving strangely then - thanks!

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On 04/12/2013 15:23, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues.
The symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from
which it is reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief
flicker, press its light button (it has a button to light up the
remote's main buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times
out, press the TV button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and it
will give a brief flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will
appear to fully wake up and work normally and continue to work normally
for the rest of the viewing session. Next evening, I have to go through
a similar process. I've replaced the batteries and the TV /remote is
little used. Normal is pressing the power button, the remote flashes its
LED continuously until the button is released and the TV's own LED
flashes to indicate it is receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?


If it's in the bedroom, no wonder its going into sleep mode, I know I
would, lol

Bob H presented the following explanation :
On 04/12/2013 15:23, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues.
The symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from
which it is reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief
flicker, press its light button (it has a button to light up the
remote's main buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times
out, press the TV button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and it
will give a brief flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will
appear to fully wake up and work normally and continue to work normally
for the rest of the viewing session. Next evening, I have to go through
a similar process. I've replaced the batteries and the TV /remote is
little used. Normal is pressing the power button, the remote flashes its
LED continuously until the button is released and the TV's own LED
flashes to indicate it is receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?


If it's in the bedroom, no wonder its going into sleep mode, I know I would,
lol

I had not thought of that lol

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Grotty contacts under the buttons affected by temperature or moisture. I
once too a remote apart after it failed and was rather bemused to see that
the connection between the bits of the switch under the buttons seemed to
be either a bit of conductive foam pressed into grooves in a pcb, or some
kind of graphite stuff on the bottom of the buttons shorting out pads on
the pcb. The two methods seemed to be uses one on rockers and the other on
the little ones.
Its no wonder these go wrong so often.
I proved it was the remote by using a light detector from the RNBIB which
could p bleep when a remote was aimed at it int eh dark. The good buttons
produced a stream of pulsed clusters, and the dodgy ones just a blip or
nothing at all. sometimes rocking the buttons made them work.



Crap.
Brian

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Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues. The
symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from which it
is reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief
flicker, press its light button (it has a button to light up the remote's
main buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times out, press
the TV button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and it will give a
brief flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will appear to fully
wake up and work normally and continue to work normally for the rest of
the viewing session. Next evening, I have to go through a similar process.
I've replaced the batteries and the TV /remote is little used. Normal is
pressing the power button, the remote flashes its LED continuously until
the button is released and the TV's own LED flashes to indicate it is
receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Brian Gaff wrote :
Grotty contacts under the buttons affected by temperature or moisture. I once
too a remote apart after it failed and was rather bemused to see that the
connection between the bits of the switch under the buttons seemed to be
either a bit of conductive foam pressed into grooves in a pcb, or some kind
of graphite stuff on the bottom of the buttons shorting out pads on the pcb.
The two methods seemed to be uses one on rockers and the other on the little
ones.
Its no wonder these go wrong so often.

I've not pulled it apart, but I have had that problem before with other
handsets and this is not the similar.

Once it seems to 'wake up', it works perfectly. It have an indication
when it is transmitting on the remote and TV, they just show a brief
glimmer then nothing. Point it at an IR sensitive camera and it shows
nothing until it 'wakes up'.

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Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On 06/12/2013 19:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

I've not pulled it apart, but I have had that problem before with other
handsets and this is not the similar.

Once it seems to 'wake up', it works perfectly. It have an indication
when it is transmitting on the remote and TV, they just show a brief
glimmer then nothing. Point it at an IR sensitive camera and it shows
nothing until it 'wakes up'.


If you do pull it apart, 'scope the voltage at the main IC in both
states - I'm going to hazard a guess that there is a voltage drop
causing a reset issue.

I'd still suggest changing the cap, cleaning the battery contacts and
trying fresh alkalines.

Lee

Harry Bloomfield explained on 12/4/2013 :
Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues. The
symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from which it is
reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief flicker,
press its light button (it has a button to light up the remote's main
buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times out, press the TV
button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and it will give a brief
flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will appear to fully wake up and
work normally and continue to work normally for the rest of the viewing
session. Next evening, I have to go through a similar process. I've replaced
the batteries and the TV /remote is little used. Normal is pressing the power
button, the remote flashes its LED continuously until the button is released
and the TV's own LED flashes to indicate it is receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?

The other evening, rather than struggle to turn it on using the remote,
I decided to save a bit of time by turning it on by the touch button at
the TV. The remote then seemed to work absolutely fine. How or why it
should suddenly start to work just because I manually switched it on, I
don't quite understand - unless this TV provides some feedback to the
remote - no silly idea(?)/.

For the past three evenings, before pressing the power button on the
remote, I have pressed one of the lower rows of buttons. The remote has
then seemed to work perfectly normally, but it may have worked normaly
anyway just pressing the power button.

Test for the next few evenings is just to press the power button first
and see what happens.



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Harry Bloomfield wrote:

The other evening, rather than struggle to turn it on using the remote,
I decided to save a bit of time by turning it on by the touch button at
the TV. The remote then seemed to work absolutely fine. How or why it
should suddenly start to work just because I manually switched it on, I
don't quite understand

Could the button on the TV have been left wedged on, and you pressing it
cleared that?

Andy Burns laid this down on his screen :
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

The other evening, rather than struggle to turn it on using the remote,
I decided to save a bit of time by turning it on by the touch button at
the TV. The remote then seemed to work absolutely fine. How or why it
should suddenly start to work just because I manually switched it on, I
don't quite understand

Could the button on the TV have been left wedged on, and you pressing it
cleared that?

No, on the TV the are not actual buttons - just a mark on the plastic
of the case where you touch it with a finger tip.

The remote normally flashes the keypad, while ever and for as long as
you keep a button pressed. The TV also has a red LED which flashes when
it receives a valid signal.

When it didn't work, the keypad on the remote would just give one brief
flash then nothing.

For several evenings, I found that if I just pressed various buttons on
the remote, it would come back to life and then work perfectly normally
for the rest of the evening.

On Monday evening, rather than messing about with the remote, I would
use the on touch 'button' on the TV. After which the remote worked fine
straight away - which is what is puzzling me so much, because it
suggests some feedback from the TV to the remote, unless it was just
coincidence.

As said, I will just try pressing the remote to turn it on this
evening, as I normally would and see what the result is.

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Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On 11/12/2013 12:33, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Andy Burns laid this down on his screen :
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

The other evening, rather than struggle to turn it on using the remote,
I decided to save a bit of time by turning it on by the touch button at
the TV. The remote then seemed to work absolutely fine. How or why it
should suddenly start to work just because I manually switched it on, I
don't quite understand

Could the button on the TV have been left wedged on, and you pressing
it cleared that?

No, on the TV the are not actual buttons - just a mark on the plastic of
the case where you touch it with a finger tip.

The remote normally flashes the keypad, while ever and for as long as
you keep a button pressed. The TV also has a red LED which flashes when
it receives a valid signal.

When it didn't work, the keypad on the remote would just give one brief
flash then nothing.

For several evenings, I found that if I just pressed various buttons on
the remote, it would come back to life and then work perfectly normally
for the rest of the evening.

On Monday evening, rather than messing about with the remote, I would
use the on touch 'button' on the TV. After which the remote worked fine
straight away - which is what is puzzling me so much, because it
suggests some feedback from the TV to the remote, unless it was just
coincidence.

As said, I will just try pressing the remote to turn it on this evening,
as I normally would and see what the result is.


have you changed the batteries?

on 11/12/2013, dennis@home supposed :
On 11/12/2013 12:33, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Andy Burns laid this down on his screen :
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

The other evening, rather than struggle to turn it on using the remote,
I decided to save a bit of time by turning it on by the touch button at
the TV. The remote then seemed to work absolutely fine. How or why it
should suddenly start to work just because I manually switched it on, I
don't quite understand

Could the button on the TV have been left wedged on, and you pressing
it cleared that?

No, on the TV the are not actual buttons - just a mark on the plastic of
the case where you touch it with a finger tip.

The remote normally flashes the keypad, while ever and for as long as
you keep a button pressed. The TV also has a red LED which flashes when
it receives a valid signal.

When it didn't work, the keypad on the remote would just give one brief
flash then nothing.

For several evenings, I found that if I just pressed various buttons on
the remote, it would come back to life and then work perfectly normally
for the rest of the evening.

On Monday evening, rather than messing about with the remote, I would
use the on touch 'button' on the TV. After which the remote worked fine
straight away - which is what is puzzling me so much, because it
suggests some feedback from the TV to the remote, unless it was just
coincidence.

As said, I will just try pressing the remote to turn it on this evening,
as I normally would and see what the result is.


have you changed the batteries?

Yes and tested the batteries. As said, it just seems to go into some
sort of sleep mode and proves difficult to wake up. Once awake, it
works perfectly.

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Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Harry Bloomfield formulated the question :
Its the bedroom TV, about 4 years old and the remote is giving issues. The
symptoms seem to suggest it seems to go into a sleep mode, from which it is
reluctant to wake fully from.

Press the power button and its transmit warning light gives a brief flicker,
press its light button (it has a button to light up the remote's main
buttons) and it will light up and stay on until it times out, press the TV
button (it can operate other Samsung equipment) and it will give a brief
flicker. Persist with button pressing and it will appear to fully wake up and
work normally and continue to work normally for the rest of the viewing
session. Next evening, I have to go through a similar process. I've replaced
the batteries and the TV /remote is little used. Normal is pressing the power
button, the remote flashes its LED continuously until the button is released
and the TV's own LED flashes to indicate it is receiving the command.

Not something I have come across before, is there something I'm missing
please?

After weeks of experimenting with this remote control, I seem to have
found a work around, which has worked 6 times in succession...

If I press the button which illuminates the buttons and whilst still
pressing that button, breifly press the on button, then release both
and again press the on button - the remote then works perfectly.

How terribly weird!

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Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk