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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:22:06 -0000, Apellation Controlee wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:04:14 +0000, The Medway Handyman
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On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.

Went on one a couple of weeks ago. 23 of us hardened criminals, mostly
middle aged, fair few OAP's.

First thing is - unless you toe the line & nod in all the right places -
you fail the course. Second thing, they won't discuss the rights &
wrongs of cameras or limits - it's a taboo subject. Think of 1984.

You get tea & biscuits, 2 fag breaks, a free pen & copy of the highway
code - and patronised for 4 hours.

Basically a load of old ********.


I should think I can match you for cynicism but, in the interests of
balance, this wasn't my experience last year in Preston.
It was a relaxed, good-humoured session and we were encouraged to
discuss the issues. In return we got explanations of why roads are
marked the way they are (e.g. why some bends have conspicuous markings
and some don't), speed limit policies, camera positioning, & so on,
and the bottom line that, whatever we think of it, it's the law so we
have to live with it.
I don't think it's altered how I drive but it was a pleasant enough
half-day and there wasn't a suggestion of censure in the attitude of
the presenters..


Oh dear. You have hereby been brainwashed. Seek psychiatric help immediately.


I might just do that, but not for my driving.
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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:19:07 -0000, ARW wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/11/13 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I
knew on Thursday that I had been caught.

do what I did: ignore it. (similar speeds: I THOUGHT it was a 40...)

They said 'you will be reported to the police'

I may have well been, but the police didn't act.

In reality they make no money from reporting you to the police, so
they don't bother.

********. I had a trip to S****horpe magistrates last year for "ignoring" a
NIP. I actually never received it as it was posted next door and no-one was
living there at the time. I got the failure to supply the drivers details
(that a 6 pointer) dropped and got away with a £65 for speeding (plus £40
costs and £15 victim surcharge)


Don't they make you sign for the letter?


They go on the principle that the act of posting is proof of delivery.


****wits. Do they think the Royal Mail is infallible?

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:47:23 -0000, Apellation Controlee wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:29:35 -0000, "Gefreiter Krueger"
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:22:06 -0000, Apellation Controlee wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:04:14 +0000, The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.

Went on one a couple of weeks ago. 23 of us hardened criminals, mostly
middle aged, fair few OAP's.

First thing is - unless you toe the line & nod in all the right places -
you fail the course. Second thing, they won't discuss the rights &
wrongs of cameras or limits - it's a taboo subject. Think of 1984.

You get tea & biscuits, 2 fag breaks, a free pen & copy of the highway
code - and patronised for 4 hours.

Basically a load of old ********.

I should think I can match you for cynicism but, in the interests of
balance, this wasn't my experience last year in Preston.
It was a relaxed, good-humoured session and we were encouraged to
discuss the issues. In return we got explanations of why roads are
marked the way they are (e.g. why some bends have conspicuous markings
and some don't), speed limit policies, camera positioning, & so on,
and the bottom line that, whatever we think of it, it's the law so we
have to live with it.
I don't think it's altered how I drive but it was a pleasant enough
half-day and there wasn't a suggestion of censure in the attitude of
the presenters..


Oh dear. You have hereby been brainwashed. Seek psychiatric help immediately.


I might just do that, but not for my driving.


A bit cuckoo are you?

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:38:57 -0000, Roger Mills
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On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I
knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.


Is there any point in attending these rather than paying the fine and
taking the points?

The original idea seemed to be that, by attending the course, you would
avoid the points - and any insurance implications.

But most insurance companies now want to know that you have attended the
course - so there's no longer any advantage, unless you're in danger of
being a "totter".


Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others didn't
check :-)

No,they just didn't ask you. They checked your details with the DVLA.
They also checked whether you'd ever made a claim or declared a stolen
vehicle, using the insurance industry database without telling you.

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:38:57 -0000, Roger Mills
wrote:

On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I

knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.


Is there any point in attending these rather than paying the fine and
taking the points?

The original idea seemed to be that, by attending the course, you would
avoid the points - and any insurance implications.

But most insurance companies now want to know that you have attended

the
course - so there's no longer any advantage, unless you're in danger of
being a "totter".


Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others
didn't check :-)


I think you may be obliged by law to tell them, not sure tho. In any
case, it would provide an excuse for them to invalidate your insurance.
What does their small print say?

Usually something along the lines of "If you fail to tell us about
*anything*, or change your address or any other detail, we'll cancel
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Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:38:57 -0000, Roger Mills
wrote:

On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I
knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.


Is there any point in attending these rather than paying the fine and
taking the points?

The original idea seemed to be that, by attending the course, you would
avoid the points - and any insurance implications.

But most insurance companies now want to know that you have attended the
course - so there's no longer any advantage, unless you're in danger of
being a "totter".


Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others didn't
check :-)

No,they just didn't ask you. They checked your details with the DVLA.
They also checked whether you'd ever made a claim or declared a stolen
vehicle, using the insurance industry database without telling you.


Bull****. Or my premium would have increased and/or I would have had a nasty letter.

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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Gefreiter Krueger
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:38:57 -0000, Roger Mills
wrote:

On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I
knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.


Is there any point in attending these rather than paying the fine and
taking the points?

The original idea seemed to be that, by attending the course, you would
avoid the points - and any insurance implications.

But most insurance companies now want to know that you have attended
the
course - so there's no longer any advantage, unless you're in danger of
being a "totter".

Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others
didn't check :-)


I think you may be obliged by law to tell them, not sure tho. In any
case, it would provide an excuse for them to invalidate your insurance.
What does their small print say?

Usually something along the lines of "If you fail to tell us about
*anything*, or change your address or any other detail, we'll cancel
your insurance."


I'd just say I forgot, although they never noticed.

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Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!


It usually is.


You really love making sweeping, WRONG statements, don't you?

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Gefreiter Krueger
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:38:57 -0000, Roger Mills
wrote:

On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I
knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.


Is there any point in attending these rather than paying the fine and
taking the points?

The original idea seemed to be that, by attending the course, you
would
avoid the points - and any insurance implications.

But most insurance companies now want to know that you have attended
the
course - so there's no longer any advantage, unless you're in danger
of
being a "totter".

Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others
didn't check :-)

I think you may be obliged by law to tell them, not sure tho. In any
case, it would provide an excuse for them to invalidate your insurance.
What does their small print say?

Usually something along the lines of "If you fail to tell us about
*anything*, or change your address or any other detail, we'll cancel
your insurance."


I'd just say I forgot, although they never noticed.


Are you the dick who used to post as Lieutenant Scott?

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:33:07 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!


It usually is.


You really love making sweeping, WRONG statements, don't you?

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits


Jesus Christ. Let me draw you a picture.
http://www.petersphotos.com/temp/speed.jpg

Ok, so I misread dual in the post above. But you get the idea.

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:15:52 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:09:14 -0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:33:07 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.


You really love making sweeping, WRONG statements, don't you?

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits


Jesus Christ. Let me draw you a picture.
http://www.petersphotos.com/temp/speed.jpg


And that picture proves that you made a WRONG statement. Again.

Ok, so I misread dual in the post above.


I hate to think how many mistakes you make on the road.





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"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news

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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Gefreiter Krueger
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:38:57 -0000, Roger Mills
wrote:

On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I
knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.


Is there any point in attending these rather than paying the fine and
taking the points?

The original idea seemed to be that, by attending the course, you
would
avoid the points - and any insurance implications.

But most insurance companies now want to know that you have attended
the
course - so there's no longer any advantage, unless you're in danger
of
being a "totter".

Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others
didn't check :-)

I think you may be obliged by law to tell them, not sure tho. In any
case, it would provide an excuse for them to invalidate your insurance.
What does their small print say?

Usually something along the lines of "If you fail to tell us about
*anything*, or change your address or any other detail, we'll cancel
your insurance."


I'd just say I forgot, although they never noticed.


Are you the dick who used to post as Lieutenant Scott?


One of those is correct.

Back to what I said. Why do you think it would be unlikely for someone to forget? Especially if you got the points halfway through your insurance year. Who's going to remember to phone them up? You'd be too busy cursing at the fine.

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On 02/11/2013 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.


Ah, you too?

They nab folks in for doing an accurate 34 to 38, stick yer in a
classroom and subject ye to a lighthearted powerpoint presention. If
above 38, you wouldn't have been offered the course, just the fine/points.

Very good course though, and the entertaining presentation here in
hertfordshire was a bit like going to the comedy club down the local pub
but without the alcohol.

Me watching the speedo and road signs like a hawk.


They advised my missus, 35 in a 30 zone, to drive around in Third gear
all the time;!..


Same on my course.


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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:19:04 -0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:15:52 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:09:14 -0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:33:07 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.

You really love making sweeping, WRONG statements, don't you?

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits


Jesus Christ. Let me draw you a picture.
http://www.petersphotos.com/temp/speed.jpg


And that picture proves that you made a WRONG statement. Again.


The website clearly states a single carriageway is 60mph.

Ok, so I misread dual in the post above.


I hate to think how many mistakes you make on the road.


On a road you see the road, not a label telling you what it is. You can't misread it.

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:15:52 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:09:14 -0000, Bob Eager
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:33:07 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.

You really love making sweeping, WRONG statements, don't you?

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Jesus Christ. Let me draw you a picture.
http://www.petersphotos.com/temp/speed.jpg


And that picture proves that you made a WRONG statement. Again.


The website clearly states a single carriageway is 60mph.


Ok, so I misread dual in the post above.


I hate to think how many mistakes you make on the road.


On a road you see the road, not a label telling you what it is. You
can't misread it.


Sometimes you have to read the label, too. there's a mile stretch of dual
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They advised my missus, 35 in a 30 zone, to drive around in Third gear
all the time;!..


Same on my course.


We had this discussion.... I actually do use third for most *built up
area* 30mph limit driving. A five speed gearbox in a relatively small
engined car. Well inside the torque range if you need to accelerate and
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:19:04 -0000, Bob Eager wrote:


On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:15:52 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:09:14 -0000, Bob Eager
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:33:07 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.

You really love making sweeping, WRONG statements, don't you?

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Jesus Christ. Let me draw you a picture.
http://www.petersphotos.com/temp/speed.jpg

And that picture proves that you made a WRONG statement. Again.


The website clearly states a single carriageway is 60mph.


Ok, so I misread dual in the post above.

I hate to think how many mistakes you make on the road.


On a road you see the road, not a label telling you what it is. You
can't misread it.


Sometimes you have to read the label, too. there's a mile stretch of dual
carriageway near here which has 50mph signs posted.


That's a number, and less likely to be misread.

And you don't have to read the label, unless the satnav makes a noise to warn you it's got a camera.

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Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!


It usually is.


You really love making sweeping, WRONG statements, don't you?

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits


It was some years after the change before I realised:-( Blame it on poor
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It usually is.


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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:33:07 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.


You really love making sweeping, WRONG statements, don't you?

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits


It was some years after the change before I realised:-( Blame it on poor
publicity?


Did they used to be 60? You mean the government INCREASED a limit? I find that hard to believe, they're all tending towards zero at the moment.

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Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!


It usually is.


It's not.


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Silly pedant, they mean precisely the same.


In English (not American) they don't. License is a verb; licence a noun.
But then American doesn't distinguish between insure (which is what you
do to reduce the cost of an accident) and ensure (which is what you do
to make sure it doesn't happen)

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Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others didn't
check :-)


They probably won't bother to check until you claim. At which point
you'll find "driving without insurance" added to the charge list.

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I don't think it's altered how I drive but it was a pleasant enough
half-day and there wasn't a suggestion of censure in the attitude of
the presenters..

I find the bit about it not altering the way you drive interesting. I know
several people who have attended the course. One of them came back with the
statement "if there are streetlights then it IS a 30MPH limit end of".
Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

I just wonder if a lot of it is dumbed down. I always know the speed limit,
I just choose to ignore it where conditions allow. In fact on housing
estates I always do 20mph even if the limit is 30.

And not one person I know that has attended a course has said that it was
patronising or a waste of time.



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Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others didn't
check :-)


They probably won't bother to check until you claim. At which point
you'll find "driving without insurance" added to the charge list.


Incorrect. About three claims have been made against me while I had points but didn't tell them.

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Half of my insurance companies never asked for points, the others didn't
check :-)


They probably won't bother to check until you claim. At which point
you'll find "driving without insurance" added to the charge list.


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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:45:37 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:33 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:41:46 -0000, ARW
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Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.


It's not.


Read the other posts before replying.

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:01:14 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 10:47 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:45:37 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:33 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:41:46 -0000, ARW
wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.

It's not.


Read the other posts before replying.

It's still not usually 60mph.


Most single carriageways are 60.

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b)PICO2000_208( PALApplication) this model number can at most support 8 roads see the frequency signal the importation
c)PICO2000_416( PALApplication) this model number can at most support 16 roads see the frequency signal the importation
5, after finishing installing, three documents that light patch in the dish the catalogue descend: The msdxm.ocx, odbc32.dll, odbcint.dll beat arrives the c:\ windows\ system inside.
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In article ,
Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:01:14 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:


On 03/11/2013 10:47 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:45:37 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:33 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:41:46 -0000, ARW
wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.

It's not.

Read the other posts before replying.

It's still not usually 60mph.


Most single carriageways are 60.


Single carriageways without a lower limit posted are 60mph. Round here they
are generally 50mph or even 40mph - but that's Surrey Highways for you.

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:07:37 -0000, charles wrote:

In article ,
Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:01:14 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:


On 03/11/2013 10:47 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:45:37 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:33 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:41:46 -0000, ARW
wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.

It's not.

Read the other posts before replying.

It's still not usually 60mph.


Most single carriageways are 60.


Single carriageways without a lower limit posted are 60mph. Round here they
are generally 50mph or even 40mph - but that's Surrey Highways for you.


It's more countrysideish round here, so most don't have lower limits until you're in a built up area. Or roadworks. We mustn't endanger all those traffic cones after all.

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:19:07 -0000, ARW =
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/11/13 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I
knew on Thursday that I had been caught.

do what I did: ignore it. (similar speeds: I THOUGHT it was a 40...)

They said 'you will be reported to the police'

I may have well been, but the police didn't act.

In reality they make no money from reporting you to the police, so
they don't bother.


********. I had a trip to S****horpe magistrates last year for "ignoring" a
NIP. I actually never received it as it was posted next door and no-one was
living there at the time. I got the failure to supply the drivers details


How did you find out what happened to it, and was that before
or after the court hearing?

(that a 6 pointer) dropped and got away with a =A365 for speeding (plus =A340
costs and =A315 victim surcharge)


Don't they make you sign for the letter?


Very deliberately not, because then you could refuse it.

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:17:10 -0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"Gefreiter Krueger" writes:
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:19:07 -0000, ARW =
wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/11/13 09:25, ARW wrote:
It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I
knew on Thursday that I had been caught.

do what I did: ignore it. (similar speeds: I THOUGHT it was a 40...)

They said 'you will be reported to the police'

I may have well been, but the police didn't act.

In reality they make no money from reporting you to the police, so
they don't bother.

********. I had a trip to S****horpe magistrates last year for "ignoring" a
NIP. I actually never received it as it was posted next door and no-one was
living there at the time. I got the failure to supply the drivers details


How did you find out what happened to it, and was that before
or after the court hearing?

(that a 6 pointer) dropped and got away with a =A365 for speeding (plus =A340
costs and =A315 victim surcharge)


Don't they make you sign for the letter?


Very deliberately not, because then you could refuse it.


What???

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Roger Mills writes:
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It looks like I will now get my wish to see what they are like:-)

The postie has just dropped off my NIP for doing 37 in a 30 zone. I knew on
Thursday that I had been caught.


Is there any point in attending these rather than paying the fine and
taking the points?

The original idea seemed to be that, by attending the course, you would
avoid the points - and any insurance implications.

But most insurance companies now want to know that you have attended the
course - so there's no longer any advantage, unless you're in danger of
being a "totter".


I've never been asked about having been on a course (but I haven't
been on a course anyway).

We were having a conversation at work about points (someone was on 9
points). The consensus was that for most insurance companies, 3 points
on a driving license which was previously clean for 20+ years didn't
impact premiums, but more than 3 points does, as does routinely
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:40:48 -0000, Tim Streater
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In article , Gefreiter Krueger
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I do, and have had a clean license ever since.


Licence.


Silly pedant, they mean precisely the same.


No they don't.

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On 03/11/2013 11:04 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:01:14 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 10:47 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:45:37 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:33 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:41:46 -0000, ARW

wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.

It's not.

Read the other posts before replying.

It's still not usually 60mph.


Most single carriageways are 60.

The reference was to dual carriageways.

And please fix your over long sig.

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:31:38 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:42 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:40:48 -0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Gefreiter Krueger
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I do, and have had a clean license ever since.

Licence.


Silly pedant, they mean precisely the same.


No they don't.


Yes they do. ****wit pedant OCD moron.

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:33:22 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 11:04 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:01:14 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 10:47 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:45:37 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:33 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:





It's not.

Read the other posts before replying.

It's still not usually 60mph.


Most single carriageways are 60.


The reference was to dual carriageways.


I misread it, moron.

And please fix your over long sig.


It's random and will be any length I want it to be.

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:04:53 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:01:14 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 10:47 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:45:37 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:33 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:41:46 -0000, ARW

wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is 60MPH!

It usually is.

It's not.

Read the other posts before replying.

It's still not usually 60mph.


Most single carriageways are 60.


(sigh) but you said 'dual'. We know that single carriageways can be 60mph.



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(e.g. why some bends have conspicuous markings
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Possible the most useful warning sign. I always try to pay attention to
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In article , Gefreiter Krueger
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:07:37 -0000, charles
wrote:


In article , Gefreiter Krueger
wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:01:14 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:


On 03/11/2013 10:47 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:45:37 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 03/11/2013 09:33 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:41:46 -0000, ARW
wrote:

Another announced that the speed limit on a dual carriage is
60MPH!

It usually is.

It's not.

Read the other posts before replying.

It's still not usually 60mph.


Most single carriageways are 60.


Single carriageways without a lower limit posted are 60mph. Round here
they are generally 50mph or even 40mph - but that's Surrey Highways for
you.


It's more countrysideish round here, so most don't have lower limits
until you're in a built up area. Or roadworks. We mustn't endanger all
those traffic cones after all.


Here, it's the countryside - narrow lanes, etc, - that have the lower limits

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