Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary charity
work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?

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On Saturday 07 September 2013 10:11 ARW wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary
charity work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?


Very. A rare find.

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ARW wrote:
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary charity
work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?

Yes, very.

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John.

On 09/07/2013 10:11 AM, ARW wrote:
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary charity
work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?


JOOI, how long are these guys apprentices and how are they qualified at
the end of it? You seem to have a very high turnover.

Andy C

Andy Cap wrote:
On 09/07/2013 10:11 AM, ARW wrote:
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary
charity work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this
work. Does anyone else find this impressive?


JOOI, how long are these guys apprentices and how are they qualified
at the end of it? You seem to have a very high turnover.

Fully qualified (AM2 passed) if they make it to the end. And the turnover is
due to their own makings in most cases.

Three have gone in the last two months. The reasons were - one for refusing
to sign or adhere to the mobile phone behaviour contract [1],one for drink
driving, and the last one for lying, being lazy and answering back.

[1] We now have a contract due to some of them spending all day texting or
facebooking. Basically this says their phones should be left with the
electrician they are working with unless otherwise approved. Apprentice said
"It's my phone and you cannot take it off me and you cannot make me sign
that contract". No, but we can fire you:-). And his precious was more
important to him than his job.


--
Adam

On 09/07/2013 01:00 PM, ARW wrote:

Three have gone in the last two months. The reasons were - one for refusing
to sign or adhere to the mobile phone behaviour contract [1],one for drink
driving, and the last one for lying, being lazy and answering back.

[1] We now have a contract due to some of them spending all day texting or
facebooking. Basically this says their phones should be left with the
electrician they are working with unless otherwise approved. Apprentice said
"It's my phone and you cannot take it off me and you cannot make me sign
that contract". No, but we can fire you:-). And his precious was more
important to him than his job.



What a nightmare !

Andy Cap wrote:
On 09/07/2013 01:00 PM, ARW wrote:

Three have gone in the last two months. The reasons were - one for
refusing to sign or adhere to the mobile phone behaviour contract
[1],one for drink driving, and the last one for lying, being lazy
and answering back. [1] We now have a contract due to some of them
spending all day
texting or facebooking. Basically this says their phones should be
left with the electrician they are working with unless otherwise
approved. Apprentice said "It's my phone and you cannot take it off
me and you cannot make me sign that contract". No, but we can fire
you:-). And his precious was more important to him than his job.



What a nightmare !

And we will just get another three and start again.

--
Adam

On 07/09/2013 15:33, ARW wrote:

And we will just get another three and start again.


I find it hard to believe that it makes commercial sense to have such a
high turnover. It takes time to train them, and even just having to
process the payroll for them costs money. Selecting fewer, better ones,
and nurturing them more, would make more sense to most organisations.

In message , ARW
writes
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary charity
work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?


Most impressive.

You sound as though you may actually like this one?
--
Bill

Bill wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary
charity work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this
work. Does anyone else find this impressive?


Most impressive.

You sound as though you may actually like this one?

I prefer the one that can do funny impressions (both voice and mannerisms)
of people just after meeting them. He did one of the headmistress at a
school the other day - and halfway through the impression she appeared
behind him from a classroom door and watched him. And he must be good
because she was amused.

--
Adam

On Saturday, September 7, 2013 1:09:16 PM UTC+1, wrote:
Bill wrote:

In message , ARW

writes

Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary

charity work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this

work. Does anyone else find this impressive?





Most impressive.



You sound as though you may actually like this one?



I prefer the one that can do funny impressions (both voice and mannerisms)

of people just after meeting them. He did one of the headmistress at a

school the other day - and halfway through the impression she appeared

behind him from a classroom door and watched him. And he must be good

because she was amused.



--

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Have you heard the impressionists impression of yourself yet Adam? Remember to smile.

misterroy wrote:
On Saturday, September 7, 2013 1:09:16 PM UTC+1,
wrote:
Bill wrote:

In message , ARW

writes

Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old
voluntary

charity work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do
this

work. Does anyone else find this impressive?





Most impressive.



You sound as though you may actually like this one?



I prefer the one that can do funny impressions (both voice and
mannerisms)

of people just after meeting them. He did one of the headmistress at
a

school the other day - and halfway through the impression she
appeared

behind him from a classroom door and watched him. And he must be good

because she was amused.

Have you heard the impressionists impression of yourself yet Adam?
Remember to smile.

I would be delighted to see/hear his impression of me.

--
Adam

In message , Bill
writes
In message , ARW
writes
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary charity
work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?


Most impressive.

You sound as though you may actually like this one?

An apprentice who joined in my year turned out to be a member of the
Plymouth Brethren. He wasn't allowed to do anything *worldly*. Someone
didn't ask enough questions.

--
Tim Lamb

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...
In message , Bill
writes
In message , ARW
writes
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary
charity
work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?


Most impressive.

You sound as though you may actually like this one?

An apprentice who joined in my year turned out to be a member of the
Plymouth Brethren. He wasn't allowed to do anything *worldly*.

and what do you mean by that? Does it stop the person doing the job?

Someone didn't ask enough questions.

It's a question that if you did ask (and act upon the answer) could see you
on the wrong end of a discrimination suit

tim


--
Tim Lamb

In article , tim.....
scribeth thus

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
.. .
In message , Bill
writes
In message , ARW
writes
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary
charity
work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?


Most impressive.

You sound as though you may actually like this one?

An apprentice who joined in my year turned out to be a member of the
Plymouth Brethren. He wasn't allowed to do anything *worldly*.

and what do you mean by that? Does it stop the person doing the job?

Someone didn't ask enough questions.

It's a question that if you did ask (and act upon the answer) could see you
on the wrong end of a discrimination suit

tim


--
Tim Lamb



Place where we go sometimes has a young lady there who's miss industry
herself, an excellent worker and just gets on with the job no problems
at all. Her guv'nor speaks very highly of her and can't praise her
enough.

But don't expect her to join in with any outside work activities she
just won't do that at all .. Shes in the witnesses ..

--
Tony Sayer

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 11:53:41 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

Place where we go sometimes has a young lady there who's miss industry
herself, an excellent worker and just gets on with the job no problems
at all. Her guv'nor speaks very highly of her and can't praise her
enough.

But don't expect her to join in with any outside work activities she
just won't do that at all .. Shes in the witnesses ..

When I've wanted building work done that's outside my area of ability/
time, I try to get one local building firm (but they're very booked up).

All Witnesses.

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On 08/09/2013 11:53, tony sayer wrote:
In article , tim.....
scribeth thus

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...
In message , Bill
writes
In message , ARW
writes
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary
charity
work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?


Most impressive.

You sound as though you may actually like this one?

An apprentice who joined in my year turned out to be a member of the
Plymouth Brethren. He wasn't allowed to do anything *worldly*.

and what do you mean by that? Does it stop the person doing the job?

Someone didn't ask enough questions.

It's a question that if you did ask (and act upon the answer) could see you
on the wrong end of a discrimination suit

tim


--
Tim Lamb



Place where we go sometimes has a young lady there who's miss industry
herself, an excellent worker and just gets on with the job no problems
at all. Her guv'nor speaks very highly of her and can't praise her
enough.

But don't expect her to join in with any outside work activities she
just won't do that at all .. Shes in the witnesses ..

As a child I had a Witness family living opposite (well she and the kids
were, he wasn't but had agreed to bring the kids up as Witnesses).

The kids were normal in most ways, but they couldn't attend birthday
parties.

Unfortunately for them, the eldest girl got pregnant when she was
unmarried and the younger girl got involved with a much older married
man. The boy behaved more conventionally and got married and had kids.

SteveW

In message , tim.....
writes

An apprentice who joined in my year turned out to be a member of the
Plymouth Brethren. He wasn't allowed to do anything *worldly*.

and what do you mean by that? Does it stop the person doing the job?

Apparently. He sat twiddling his thumbs in the apprentice school for 3
weeks and then disappeared.

Someone didn't ask enough questions.

It's a question that if you did ask (and act upon the answer) could see
you on the wrong end of a discrimination suit

This was 1960!

I suppose a suitable question might be *now John, if we were to offer
you this opportunity would you be able to work alongside someone
listening to the radio?*

I made that up but that was his sort of problem.

--
Tim Lamb

In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
An apprentice who joined in my year turned out to be a member of the
Plymouth Brethren. He wasn't allowed to do anything *worldly*. Someone
didn't ask enough questions.

The Plymouth Brethren manage to fish on the high seas doing all the jobs
on board (and on land) required for that. Their restrictions tend to be
confined to what would be broadly called leisure activities. Since Adam
seems to complain most about his 'lads' not concentrating on their work,
is this a bad thing?
It would be if you want a companion down the pub to talk about last
night's TV, etc, I suppose.

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On Saturday, September 7, 2013 9:56:35 PM UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Bill

writes

In message , ARW

writes

Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary charity

work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.



Does anyone else find this impressive?





Most impressive.



You sound as though you may actually like this one?



An apprentice who joined in my year turned out to be a member of the

Plymouth Brethren. He wasn't allowed to do anything *worldly*. Someone

didn't ask enough questions.



--

Tim Lamb

That's strange the Plymouth Brethren in Stow-on-the-Wold run a very good farm supplies shop.

Jonathan

"ARW" wrote in message
...
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary
charity work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?

Depends on his reasons and motives I suppose. At face value, very
impressive.

Huge wrote:
On 2013-09-07, ARW wrote:
Well the new apprentice does charity work. And not any old voluntary
charity work - he has paid to take a course to be allowed to do this
work.

Does anyone else find this impressive?

Yes. Keep him.

He might be qualified, but he has not actually done any charity work yet. He
relies on call outs to use his skills and he has not had a call out yet.
Still it's good to know that if needed he will be there.

--
Adam