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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)


It was a typo.
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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)

It says buckled now, did they change it?!?



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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)

It says buckled now, did they change it?!?


Yes. The use of the Print Screen button and the use of John Rumms webspace
is the proof.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...ile:Bucked.JPG

I prefer Pounders change of letters to the word:-)

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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)

It says buckled now, did they change it?!?


Yes. The use of the Print Screen button and the use of John Rumms webspace
is the proof.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...ile:Bucked.JPG

I prefer Pounders change of letters to the word:-)

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I was impressed by the driver's self restraint in his response -
'crickey'. Not sure that would have been the phrase I'd have used if it
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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675


It says buckled now, did they change it?!?


Must have done. It said "bucked" when I read the story earlier this
afternoon, I remember thinking "what polite builders". B-)

As for the design, it's a concave surface it *will* focus the
light/heat. Might not focus it very well but something that size
doesn't need to to produce a "hot spot" hot enough to melt plastic.

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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)


I wonder if the original architect plans were submitted to an optical
expert who would be able to predict that an efficient solar furnace
was being constructed?

On a different "note" we have a building near here that hums a B
natural on windy days, I don't think it has caused anybody or anything
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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)


I wonder if the original architect plans were submitted to an optical
expert who would be able to predict that an efficient solar furnace
was being constructed?


One of Arthur C Clarke's "Tales from the White Hart" covers the same
ground. Programmes with a reflective cover issued to supporters at a cup
final. Supporters try to dazzle the ref reflecting the sun into his eyes
using the programmes. Ref explodes in greasy puff of smoke.

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On 03/09/2013 15:07, Jethro_uk wrote:
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Graham. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 20:35:01 +0100, "ARW"
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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)

I wonder if the original architect plans were submitted to an optical
expert who would be able to predict that an efficient solar furnace was
being constructed?


One of Arthur C Clarke's "Tales from the White Hart" covers the same
ground. Programmes with a reflective cover issued to supporters at a cup
final. Supporters try to dazzle the ref reflecting the sun into his eyes
using the programmes. Ref explodes in greasy puff of smoke.


Or of course there's the Mythbusters presidential special: "Archimedes
death ray" which turned out to be a crock ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_
(2006_season)#Episode_46_.E2.80.93_.22Archimedes.2 7_Death_Ray.22

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_
(2010_season)#Episode_157_.E2.80.93_President.27s_ Challenge


There was a funny story a few years ago - someone made a giant parabolic
stainless steel dish in the name of art (lottery funded IIRC). Someone
else worked out that it could instantly incinerate seagulls which
happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. More money needed
to be spent on a tent-like covering.

Sorry I can't find it by googling. Definitely under the dear leader
Blair's time like many other lottery funded ideas. (Not that I've ever
played the lottery).

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There was a funny story a few years ago - someone made a giant parabolic
stainless steel dish in the name of art (lottery funded IIRC). Someone
else worked out that it could instantly incinerate seagulls which
happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. More money needed
to be spent on a tent-like covering.

Nottingham Sky Mirror

http://www.nottinghamplayhouse.co.uk...us/sky-mirror/

Contrary to media speculation Sky Mirror does not pose any danger to the
public or pigeons in the form of a barbecue ray.


Typical contemporary comment:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/07/paulkelso1

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Part Timer wrote:

There was a funny story a few years ago - someone made a giant parabolic
stainless steel dish in the name of art (lottery funded IIRC). Someone
else worked out that it could instantly incinerate seagulls which
happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. More money needed
to be spent on a tent-like covering.

Nottingham Sky Mirror

http://www.nottinghamplayhouse.co.uk...us/sky-mirror/

Contrary to media speculation Sky Mirror does not pose any danger to the
public or pigeons in the form of a barbecue ray.


Countered with some real facts by the astronomer quoted in the article
below:

" . . . during the risk period, the sun's rays would be concentrated
into a funnel shape projected upwards towards the theatre bar. Several
inches wide and stretching for six metres, the beam would be as hot as
40 single-bar electric fires."

Typical contemporary comment:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/07/paulkelso1

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

May I be the first to say (here), "how could they be so ****ing stupid?"


Steady on, how were they to know they parked in the prime focus. (I
know what you meant really).

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On 02/09/2013 22:32, Graham. wrote:
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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

May I be the first to say (here), "how could they be so ****ing stupid?"


Steady on, how were they to know they parked in the prime focus. (I
know what you meant really).


Shame it wasn't a certain Ford in the spotlight!!

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Steady on, how were they to know they parked in the prime focus.


If you have an electric car with a solar panel it might be a desirable place to park and get a free charge.

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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

May I be the first to say (here), "how could they be so ****ing stupid?"


Steady on, how were they to know they parked in the prime focus. (I
know what you meant really).


I wonder if they have mapped where the focus is going to be for each day
of the year?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

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I very much doubt they realised that could do that until it did!...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

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I very much doubt they realised that could do that until it did!...


Not much of an architect then! This is basic physics along with knowledge of
where the sun shines from.



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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

May I be the first to say (here), "how could they be so ****ing stupid?"



I very much doubt they realised that could do that until it did!...


Not much of an architect then! This is basic physics along with knowledge of
where the sun shines from.


Every architect knows where the sun shines from. They also know the world
goes dark when they sit down.

Damn, I have "architect" in my job title.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

May I be the first to say (here), "how could they be so ****ing stupid?"



I very much doubt they realised that could do that until it did!...


Not much of an architect then! This is basic physics along with knowledge of
where the sun shines from.




Yes physics it is .. but in reality just how many would pick up on this
being a problem before the building went up?.

Bit like that SN109 signal just outside Paddington station that wasn't
that clear on a sunny day at a given time of day and time of year...

Thus far a singed car .. that incident 28 odd dead and injured?..

Millions of pounds lost and paid out..
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

May I be the first to say (here), "how could they be so ****ing stupid?"


I very much doubt they realised that could do that until it did!...


Not much of an architect then! This is basic physics along with knowledge of
where the sun shines from.




Yes physics it is .. but in reality just how many would pick up on this
being a problem before the building went up?.


Mirror-like surface and concave - that should have rung alarm bells
immediately!

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Apparently the architect had already designed a hotel in Vegas
which tries to set fire to sunbathers by the pool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vdara#S...22death_ray.22

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Never heard that one:-)


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"bucked"?




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675




Never heard that one:-)




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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)


Can see the whole thing being pulled down as a fire hazard.
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reflective coating as a custom job and selling feck knows how many 100's m2
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I can see Pilkington getting very excited about devloping a new non
reflective coating as a custom job and selling feck knows how many 100's m2
of glass!


They already exist, on camera lenses, etc.

Now does anyone have a vacuum chamber big enough?


They can just fit external blinds on the bits that matter.
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I can see Pilkington getting very excited about devloping a new non
reflective coating as a custom job and selling feck knows how many 100's m2
of glass!


They already exist, on camera lenses, etc.

Now does anyone have a vacuum chamber big enough?


They can just fit external blinds on the bits that matter.


No need for blinds just wrap it in tyvek


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I can see Pilkington getting very excited about devloping a new non
reflective coating as a custom job and selling feck knows how many
100's m2 of glass!


They already exist, on camera lenses, etc.

Now does anyone have a vacuum chamber big enough?


They can just fit external blinds on the bits that matter.


No need for blinds just wrap it in tyvek


And then it would be an art installtion.



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On 03/09/2013 13:28, Tim Watts wrote:


I can see Pilkington getting very excited about devloping a new non
reflective coating as a custom job and selling feck knows how many 100's m2
of glass!


They already exist, on camera lenses, etc.

Now does anyone have a vacuum chamber big enough?


They can just fit external blinds on the bits that matter.


No need for blinds just wrap it in tyvek




You do know the reflectivity of tyvek?
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"bucked"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)


Can see the whole thing being pulled down as a fire hazard.
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I can see Pilkington getting very excited about devloping a new non
reflective coating as a custom job and selling feck knows how many 100's m2
of glass!


Good excuse to not wash the windows until winter.

That'll save a few bob - maybe enough to pay out on a few damage claims.

Question: If you reckoned that their building had damaged your car, how
could you prove it?

I'm assuming that the building owners would shift claims off onto their
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)

Can see the whole thing being pulled down as a fire hazard.
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I can see Pilkington getting very excited about devloping a new non
reflective coating as a custom job and selling feck knows how many
100's m2 of glass!


Good excuse to not wash the windows until winter.

That'll save a few bob - maybe enough to pay out on a few damage
claims.

Question: If you reckoned that their building had damaged your car,
how could you prove it?

I'm assuming that the building owners would shift claims off onto
their insurers (after the headlines die down a bit) and insurance
companies aren't going to pay up without "proof".


Going by the TV reports, there is no shortage of proof. Just download
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)


Can see the whole thing being pulled down as a fire hazard.
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I can see Pilkington getting very excited about devloping a new non
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of glass!

Just use the target area for solar powered charging stations for
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)

Can see the whole thing being pulled down as a fire hazard.
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I can see Pilkington getting very excited about devloping a new non
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Just use the target area for solar powered charging stations for
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Do Jaguar make any solar powered cars? Yet?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675

Never heard that one:-)

A building which intrigued me was the Sperry building on London's North
Circular Road a little way before you get to the Hanger Lane gyratory
system a from the east.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=han...ratory&oe=utf-
8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&ei=JVkmUpWtDKic0QXQtYGoBA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg

The two blocks are curved with the convex sides facing each other. In
plan view it looks like a venturi; -and it is aligned a little south of
west, so prevailing winds would blow straight through the venturi.

I always imagined that they must have problems with window panes being
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Circular Road a little way before you get to the Hanger Lane gyratory
system a from the east.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=han...ratory&oe=utf-
8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&ei=JVkmUpWtDKic0QXQtYGoBA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg

The two blocks are curved with the convex sides facing each other. In
plan view it looks like a venturi; -and it is aligned a little south of
west, so prevailing winds would blow straight through the venturi.

I always imagined that they must have problems with window panes being
'sucked' out......or was the deliberately done to provide ventilation?


On the Golden Mile, Brentford - the only trace I can find of what used
to be there is the map on this page
http://brentfordandchiswicklhs.org.u...road-then-now/

And on maps.google it's now a small housing development.

Directly opposite there is a pair of curved buildings - are those the
ones you mean? The Sperry building is long gone and the curved
building was put up by Samsung, according to that.
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Directly opposite there is a pair of curved buildings - are those the
ones you mean? The Sperry building is long gone and the curved
building was put up by Samsung, according to that.


This one?
url:https://maps.google.com/maps?q=golde...,0.011834&z=17
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On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:17:21 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
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Directly opposite there is a pair of curved buildings - are those the
ones you mean? The Sperry building is long gone and the curved
building was put up by Samsung, according to that.


This one?
url:https://maps.google.com/maps?q=golde...=51.488104 ,-
0.315707&spn=0.005291,0.011834&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=54.489258,96.943359&t
=h&hq=golden+mile&hnear=Brentford,+Greater+London ,+United+Kingdom&fll=51.488398,
-0.313947&fspn=0.005291,0.011834&z=17


No;about 2 or 3 miles to the NNE of the building your reference points
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A building which intrigued me was the Sperry building on London's North
Circular Road a little way before you get to the Hanger Lane gyratory
system a from the east.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=han...ratory&oe=utf-
8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&ei=JVkmUpWtDKic0QXQtYGoBA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg

The two blocks are curved with the convex sides facing each other. In
plan view it looks like a venturi; -and it is aligned a little south of
west, so prevailing winds would blow straight through the venturi.

I always imagined that they must have problems with window panes being
'sucked' out......or was the deliberately done to provide ventilation?


On the Golden Mile, Brentford - the only trace I can find of what used
to be there is the map on this page
http://brentfordandchiswicklhs.org.u...nd-crafts/the-
great-west-road-then-now/

And on maps.google it's now a small housing development.

Directly opposite there is a pair of curved buildings - are those the
ones you mean? The Sperry building is long gone and the curved
building was put up by Samsung, according to that.


It shows on the satellite view on Google Maps just south of the junction
of the A406 North Circular Road with the A404 Harrow Road-Brentfield
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In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 22:56:31 +0100, Chris Holford
wrote:

A building which intrigued me was the Sperry building on London's North
Circular Road a little way before you get to the Hanger Lane gyratory
system a from the east.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=han...ratory&oe=utf-
8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&ei=JVkmUpWtDKic0QXQtYGoBA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg

The two blocks are curved with the convex sides facing each other. In
plan view it looks like a venturi; -and it is aligned a little south of
west, so prevailing winds would blow straight through the venturi.

I always imagined that they must have problems with window panes being
'sucked' out......or was the deliberately done to provide ventilation?


On the Golden Mile, Brentford - the only trace I can find of what used
to be there is the map on this page
http://brentfordandchiswicklhs.org.u...ndustries-and-

crafts/the-
great-west-road-then-now/

And on maps.google it's now a small housing development.

Directly opposite there is a pair of curved buildings - are those the
ones you mean? The Sperry building is long gone and the curved building
was put up by Samsung, according to that.


It shows on the satellite view on Google Maps just south of the junction
of the A406 North Circular Road with the A404 Harrow Road-Brentfield


Aha! Nowhere near where I was looking...

http://goo.gl/maps/hTH4i



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