On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:34:16 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:


[...]

No way. The formulation has definitely changed for the worse. Perhaps it only works effectively on Monsanto's genetically-engineered weeds.

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 03:24:07 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

No way. The formulation has definitely changed for the worse. Perhaps it
only works effectively on Monsanto's genetically-engineered weeds.

The branded stuff aka Roundup, Weedol just has less of the active
ingredient (glyphostae) that the generics, they may have some
surficants to aid penetration though.

I'd just get the highest concentration I could, dilute if required
and bruise the target plant a bit. It does take a while to act, some
plants are quicker than others and some tough buggers can take more
than one application. Just be patient, it does not produce an instant
knockdown. Indeed by the way it works you don't want an instant
knockdown.

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" writes:

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 03:24:07 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

No way. The formulation has definitely changed for the worse. Perhaps it
only works effectively on Monsanto's genetically-engineered weeds.

The branded stuff aka Roundup, Weedol just has less of the active
ingredient (glyphostae) that the generics, they may have some
surficants to aid penetration though.

I wonder if a little squirt of dish detergent migh be helpful?

I'd just get the highest concentration I could, dilute if required
and bruise the target plant a bit. It does take a while to act, some
plants are quicker than others and some tough buggers can take more
than one application. Just be patient, it does not produce an instant
knockdown. Indeed by the way it works you don't want an instant
knockdown.

It's not so easy to decide which brand has the highest concentration.
Seems to have been made a little obscure, perhaps on purpose.

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Windmill, Use t m i l l
J.R.R. Tolkien:- @ S c o t s h o m e . c o m
All that is gold does not glister / Not all who wander are lost

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:18:42 GMT, Windmill wrote:

It's not so easy to decide which brand has the highest concentration.
Seems to have been made a little obscure, perhaps on purpose.

It ought to be in the small print of ingredients as g/l.

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" writes:

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:18:42 GMT, Windmill wrote:

It's not so easy to decide which brand has the highest concentration.
Seems to have been made a little obscure, perhaps on purpose.

It ought to be in the small print of ingredients as g/l.

Hard to locate, though, and then you have to decide if 6 sachets
containing 7g/l., to be diluted with X litres of water and allegedly
capable of treating 50 sq. metres and costing 9.99 is better than 20
sachets ... or .... and so on.

Probably easier the second time you buy.

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Windmill, Use t m i l l
J.R.R. Tolkien:- @ S c o t s h o m e . c o m
All that is gold does not glister / Not all who wander are lost

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 01:30:26 GMT, Windmill wrote:

It ought to be in the small print of ingredients as g/l.

Hard to locate, though, and then you have to decide if 6 sachets
containing 7g/l., to be diluted with X litres of water and allegedly
capable of treating 50 sq. metres and costing 9.99 is better than 20
sachets ... or .... and so on.

No different to grocery shopping. Never assume an "offer" is the best
value, around 50% of the time it is not.

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Cheers
Dave.

writes:

On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:34:16 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:


[...]

No way. The formulation has definitely changed for the worse. Perhaps it only works effectively on Monsanto's genetically-engineered weeds.

Read somewhere that Roundup-resistant weeds are now a problem. And that
the patent expired fairly recently. And that there is now something
newer than glyphosate which does work on the resistant weeds.
Suspicious persons no doubt wonder if the Roundup-resistant weeds were
specially bred or modified!

--
Windmill, Use t m i l l
J.R.R. Tolkien:- @ S c o t s h o m e . c o m
All that is gold does not glister / Not all who wander are lost

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:01:41 GMT, Windmill wrote:

writes:

On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:34:16 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:

[...]

No way. The formulation has definitely changed for the worse. Perhaps it only works effectively on Monsanto's genetically-engineered weeds.

Read somewhere that Roundup-resistant weeds are now a problem. And that
the patent expired fairly recently. And that there is now something
newer than glyphosate which does work on the resistant weeds.
Suspicious persons no doubt wonder if the Roundup-resistant weeds were
specially bred or modified!

If they were, we'd(!) be sued for having them in our gardens. Big
corporations, in league with judges that like money, are good at punishing
victims, as we've already seen.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

PeterC writes:

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:01:41 GMT, Windmill wrote:

writes:

On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:34:16 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:

[...]

No way. The formulation has definitely changed for the worse. Perhaps it only works effectively on Monsanto's genetically-engineered weeds.

Read somewhere that Roundup-resistant weeds are now a problem. And that
the patent expired fairly recently. And that there is now something
newer than glyphosate which does work on the resistant weeds.
Suspicious persons no doubt wonder if the Roundup-resistant weeds were
specially bred or modified!

If they were, we'd(!) be sued for having them in our gardens. Big
corporations, in league with judges that like money, are good at punishing
victims, as we've already seen.

The 'committee effect', where people who mostly love their wives and
kids cheerfully vote in committee to screw their customers/clients/etc.

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Windmill, Use t m i l l
J.R.R. Tolkien:- @ S c o t s h o m e . c o m
All that is gold does not glister / Not all who wander are lost