He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4 picture
lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd light
in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?


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Adam

ARW wrote:
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4
picture lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd
light in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?

You bein' a prat comes to mind? *eg*

"ARW" wrote:
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4 picture
lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd light
in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?


Drilled through the cables to fix the lights to the wall!!?

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On Friday, July 26, 2013 7:56:11 PM UTC+1, wrote:
Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?

His parents gave him an Ex Box to play with as a child, instead of wires and torch-bulbs?

Owain

On 26/07/2013 19:56, ARW wrote:
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4 picture
lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd light
in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?

Is the one that now works, the one that did not before?


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"ARW" wrote in message
...
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4 picture
lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd
light in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?


I bet when you were an apprentice you were just perfect?

You only need to reverse one set of two wires to create the opposite problem
to before. Seems to me that he has to be colour blind and unable to count.
Brian

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"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...
ARW wrote:
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4
picture lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd
light in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?

You bein' a prat comes to mind? *eg*

On 26/07/2013 19:56, ARW wrote:
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4 picture
lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd light
in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?

He ****ed up?

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"harryagain" wrote in message
...

"ARW" wrote in message
...
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4 picture
lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd
light in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?


I bet when you were an apprentice you were just perfect?

I dread to think what you were like, to have turned out how you have.

Brian Gaff wrote:
Seems to me that he has to be colour blind and unable to count.

I thought wiring colours were chosen to be such high contrast it didn't
matter what colour perception you had. Doesn't help with the counting,
though.

JGH

Lobster wrote:
On 26/07/2013 19:56, ARW wrote:
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4
picture lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the
3rd light in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?

He ****ed up?

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3 worked.
When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked. When the light from
position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not work. It was about as the
stupid mistake I made with a TV a week ago.

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wrote:
On Friday, July 26, 2013 7:56:11 PM UTC+1,
wrote:
Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?

His parents gave him an Ex Box to play with as a child, instead of
wires and torch-bulbs?

Not this one. He cares about his work. And he wired up the picture lights
correctly.

--
Adam

Toby wrote:
"ARW" wrote:
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4
picture lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the
3rd light in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?


Drilled through the cables to fix the lights to the wall!!?

All the picture lights were wired up correctly.

--
Adam

harryagain wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message
...
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4
picture lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd
light in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?


I bet when you were an apprentice you were just perfect?

I have never been perfect or claimed to be perfect.

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Adam

On 26/07/2013 19:56, ARW wrote:
He has second fixed a job that I first fixed. Now only 3 of the 4 picture
lights worked when the lightswitch was turned on.

He phoned me and asked about the route of the cable. Now only the 3rd light
in a radial circuit from the light switch worked.

Anyone care to guess the problem:-)?


Dud bulb?

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:32:09 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3 worked.
When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked. When the light
from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not work.

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:32:09 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3
worked. When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked.
When the light from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not
work.

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?


WINNER

It was individual on/off switches

I have the T shirt for doing the same.

--
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:32:09 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3 worked.
When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked. When the light
from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not work.

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

tim

tim..... wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:32:09 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3
worked. When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked.
When the light from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not
work.

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

tim

Light bulb.

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Adam

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:56:50 +0100, tim..... wrote:

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

In this contect a "bubble" of glass filled with not a lot and a very
fine tungsten wire connected to the outside world.

TV and probably stage slang. It doesn't seem right calling a tungsten
based bulb drawing 2.5 kW a "bulb", same for an 10 kW arc bulb. B-)

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:24:58 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3
worked. When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked.
When the light from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not
work.

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

WINNER

It was individual on/off switches

Woo hoo! Do I get a T-Shirt?

I have the T shirt for doing the same.

Ah, BTDTGTS...

--
Cheers
Dave.

In article , tim.....
wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:32:09 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3
worked. When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked. When
the light from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not work.

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

The glass envelope of a light "Bulb"? and, by extrapolation, the bulb
(lamp) itself.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On 28/07/2013 10:59, ARW wrote:
tim..... wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:32:09 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3
worked. When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked.
When the light from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not
work.
Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?
what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

tim
Light bulb.

I asked someone something about light 'bulbs' when I was in Estimating
and he said:

"You get bulbs from the fu**in garden centre"

Apparently the correct term is lamp...

--
David

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:38:46 +0100, charles wrote:

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

The glass envelope of a light "Bulb"? and, by extrapolation, the bulb
(lamp) itself.

A "lamp" or luminaire is the whole assembly of enclosure,
refelectors, lenses etc. B-)

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:24:58 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3
worked. When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked.
When the light from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not
work.

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

WINNER

It was individual on/off switches

Woo hoo! Do I get a T-Shirt?

No. And not even five pounds or a free pencil :-)


I have the T shirt for doing the same.

Ah, BTDTGTS...

Indeed. But the same apprentice was sent to a hospital to sort out some
lights that were not working in main reception. His work sheet said "pressed
the lightswitch and the lights turned on". So he is smarter than the
hospitals estates department who did not know where the lightswitch was
(it's on the wall, it looks like a lightswitch and it acts like a
lightswitch).


--
Adam

gremlin_95 wrote:
On 28/07/2013 10:59, ARW wrote:
tim..... wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:32:09 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3
worked. When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked.
When the light from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not
work.
Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?
what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

tim
Light bulb.

I asked someone something about light 'bulbs' when I was in Estimating
and he said:

"You get bulbs from the fu**in garden centre"

Apparently the correct term is lamp...

:-)

And the earth core of a cable is a CPC.

--
Adam

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:08:23 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

gremlin_95 wrote:
On 28/07/2013 10:59, ARW wrote:
tim..... wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:32:09 +0100, ARW wrote:

Not electrically. He had 4 picture lights in a radial. Only no 3
worked. When this light was moved to position 4 it still worked.
When the light from position 4 was moved to position 3 it did not
work.
Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?
what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

tim
Light bulb.

I asked someone something about light 'bulbs' when I was in Estimating
and he said:

"You get bulbs from the fu**in garden centre"

Apparently the correct term is lamp...

:-)

And the earth core of a cable is a CPC.

And a light fitting is a "Luminaire".

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 12:56:51 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article o.uk,
"Dave Liquorice" wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:56:50 +0100, tim..... wrote:

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

In this contect a "bubble" of glass filled with not a lot and a very
fine tungsten wire connected to the outside world.

TV and probably stage slang. It doesn't seem right calling a tungsten
based bulb drawing 2.5 kW a "bulb", same for an 10 kW arc bulb. B-)

So it's pure affectation then.

How else can the luvvies spot an outsider?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:38:46 +0100, charles wrote:

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

The glass envelope of a light "Bulb"? and, by extrapolation, the bulb
(lamp) itself.

A "lamp" or luminaire is the whole assembly of enclosure,
refelectors, lenses etc. B-)

no - that's a lantern (or indeed luminaire)

--
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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

In article ,
Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 12:56:51 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article o.uk,
"Dave Liquorice" wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:56:50 +0100, tim..... wrote:

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

In this contect a "bubble" of glass filled with not a lot and a very
fine tungsten wire connected to the outside world.

TV and probably stage slang. It doesn't seem right calling a tungsten
based bulb drawing 2.5 kW a "bulb", same for an 10 kW arc bulb. B-)

So it's pure affectation then.

How else can the luvvies spot an outsider?

a luvie wouldn't know waht you were talking about - a techie would.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:00:54 +0100, Graham. wrote:

"You get bulbs from the fu**in garden centre"

Apparently the correct term is lamp...

:-)

And the earth core of a cable is a CPC.

And a light fitting is a "Luminaire".

We'll have none of that Froggy nonsense here.

On 29/07/2013 12:34, wrote:
On 28 Jul,
"ARW" wrote:

Indeed. But the same apprentice was sent to a hospital to sort out some
lights that were not working in main reception. His work sheet said
"pressed the lightswitch and the lights turned on". So he is smarter than
the hospitals estates department who did not know where the lightswitch
was (it's on the wall, it looks like a lightswitch and it acts like a
lightswitch).

They can be well disguised. A club (techy) that I belong to hires a room in a
centre for people with learning difficulties. One evening half the lights
weren't working. We hunted everywhere for a switch.

A long time member arrived, and said switch was on a certain wall above the
worktop. It was, a rocker switch, flush mounted (I mean *flush* mounted,
plastered level with the *front* of the face plate) and painted over to match
the wall. Now I know it's there I still have difficulty locating it. I
suspect it was deliberately disguised.



Why didn't they just fit a key switch or put it in a lockable cabinet?
Oh I recall, "learning difficulties" make such options too difficult for
the staff.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:38:46 +0100, charles wrote:

Duff bubble or individual on/off switches?

what on earth (in this context) is "bubble"?

The glass envelope of a light "Bulb"? and, by extrapolation, the bulb
(lamp) itself.

A "lamp" or luminaire is the whole assembly of enclosure,
refelectors, lenses etc. B-)

Snot.