We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a mini-
digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area (hand up
to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

Further investigation shows that the first foot or so is in trunking.

The trunking stops, the cable goes up and over the tree roots, almost to
the surface, then dips down again.

After that, up to the existing path, bare cable is laid in the soil at a
reasonable depth (digger didn't go down that far) but no green trunking or
buried warning tape to indicate that there is a thin black cable buried.

So if you inspect the installation from either end you see green trunking,
but the majority of the run is unprotected in bare earth.

The builders have suggested that the cable was laid by contractors with
just enough trunking showing to satisfy a post installation inspection.

Whatever, running it up near the surface and over the tree roots is
definitely naughty and very vulnerable to digging of any sort.

Virgin are coming out tomorrow morning (according to their robot call
answering service) - as far as I can tell there was no opportunity to talk
to a real human.

The call system claimed to have tested the phone line and found that it
was working. I doubt it would work over an air gap that size!

Anyway, strength in depth.

We have lost phone, broadband, TV (bundle).

Internet is now running on 3 via the AP on our Galaxy S3 (unlimited data).

We have mobile phones (as well as the Galaxy) - O2 PAYG.

The TV is also linked to terrestrial and satellite.

So all we have really lost is incoming calls on the land line and the use
of our Tivo box to record new programmes and pause/rewind live TV.

Life would have been much more difficult if we had all our eggs in one
basket.

The 3 mobile broadband is really pretty good, as well.


Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the cable.

Cheers

Dave R

David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a mini-
digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area (hand up
to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

Further investigation shows that the first foot or so is in trunking.

The trunking stops, the cable goes up and over the tree roots, almost to
the surface, then dips down again.

After that, up to the existing path, bare cable is laid in the soil at a
reasonable depth (digger didn't go down that far) but no green trunking or
buried warning tape to indicate that there is a thin black cable buried.

So if you inspect the installation from either end you see green trunking,
but the majority of the run is unprotected in bare earth.

The builders have suggested that the cable was laid by contractors with
just enough trunking showing to satisfy a post installation inspection.

Whatever, running it up near the surface and over the tree roots is
definitely naughty and very vulnerable to digging of any sort.

Virgin are coming out tomorrow morning (according to their robot call
answering service) - as far as I can tell there was no opportunity to talk
to a real human.

The call system claimed to have tested the phone line and found that it
was working. I doubt it would work over an air gap that size!

Anyway, strength in depth.

We have lost phone, broadband, TV (bundle).

Internet is now running on 3 via the AP on our Galaxy S3 (unlimited data).

We have mobile phones (as well as the Galaxy) - O2 PAYG.

The TV is also linked to terrestrial and satellite.

So all we have really lost is incoming calls on the land line and the use
of our Tivo box to record new programmes and pause/rewind live TV.

Life would have been much more difficult if we had all our eggs in one
basket.

The 3 mobile broadband is really pretty good, as well.


Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the cable.

Cheers

Dave R

I had a similar problem with my VM/NTL cable being laid in a spade slot
across the grass - no more than 100mm deep but at least in flexi green
conduit all the way. When we replaced the grass with pavers, I dug up
the cable and laid on the surface so the contractor could see it and I
warned him about taking care but he still managed to cut it. However his
approach was to flag down a passing VM/NTL engineer and got him to
repair it there and then - I have no idea if beer tokens changed hands
or not but we have had no problems with the repair in the three years or
so so since it happened.

Bob

PS Horrible cable to work with btw. Figure of 8 with one coax and three
twisted pairs for phone lines but filled with a really sticky gloop to
repel any water that gets in. Sticks like sh*t to your hands, tools etc

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a mini-
digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area (hand up
to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

Further investigation shows that the first foot or so is in trunking.

The trunking stops, the cable goes up and over the tree roots, almost to
the surface, then dips down again.

After that, up to the existing path, bare cable is laid in the soil at a
reasonable depth (digger didn't go down that far) but no green trunking or
buried warning tape to indicate that there is a thin black cable buried.

So if you inspect the installation from either end you see green trunking,
but the majority of the run is unprotected in bare earth.

The builders have suggested that the cable was laid by contractors with
just enough trunking showing to satisfy a post installation inspection.

Whatever, running it up near the surface and over the tree roots is
definitely naughty and very vulnerable to digging of any sort.

Virgin are coming out tomorrow morning (according to their robot call
answering service) - as far as I can tell there was no opportunity to talk
to a real human.

The call system claimed to have tested the phone line and found that it
was working. I doubt it would work over an air gap that size!

Anyway, strength in depth.

We have lost phone, broadband, TV (bundle).

Internet is now running on 3 via the AP on our Galaxy S3 (unlimited data).

We have mobile phones (as well as the Galaxy) - O2 PAYG.

The TV is also linked to terrestrial and satellite.

So all we have really lost is incoming calls on the land line and the use
of our Tivo box to record new programmes and pause/rewind live TV.

Life would have been much more difficult if we had all our eggs in one
basket.

The 3 mobile broadband is really pretty good, as well.


Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the cable.

Cheers

Dave R

I sliced through mine years ago when it was put down by Nynex. It was about
3 inches deep and in a garden border, so digging through it was inevitable.
I managed to join it together (can you still get a jolt from digital cable
tv/phone cable if someone calls you at the same time?), and it worked, but
the line was crackly as the trunking filled up with water. They did relay it
FOC, but didn't do it any deeper. One of my ongoing jobs it to dig it in
deeper myself bit by bit.

David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a
mini- digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area
(hand up to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose
pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

Further investigation shows that the first foot or so is in trunking.

The trunking stops, the cable goes up and over the tree roots, almost
to the surface, then dips down again.

After that, up to the existing path, bare cable is laid in the soil
at a reasonable depth (digger didn't go down that far) but no green
trunking or buried warning tape to indicate that there is a thin
black cable buried.

So if you inspect the installation from either end you see green
trunking, but the majority of the run is unprotected in bare earth.

The builders have suggested that the cable was laid by contractors
with just enough trunking showing to satisfy a post installation
inspection.

Whatever, running it up near the surface and over the tree roots is
definitely naughty and very vulnerable to digging of any sort.

Virgin are coming out tomorrow morning (according to their robot call
answering service) - as far as I can tell there was no opportunity to
talk to a real human.

The call system claimed to have tested the phone line and found that
it was working. I doubt it would work over an air gap that size!

Anyway, strength in depth.

We have lost phone, broadband, TV (bundle).

Internet is now running on 3 via the AP on our Galaxy S3 (unlimited
data).

We have mobile phones (as well as the Galaxy) - O2 PAYG.

The TV is also linked to terrestrial and satellite.

So all we have really lost is incoming calls on the land line and the
use of our Tivo box to record new programmes and pause/rewind live TV.

Life would have been much more difficult if we had all our eggs in one
basket.

The 3 mobile broadband is really pretty good, as well.


Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the
cable.

The cable will still work if you joint it with strip connector:-)

ISTR Virgin replace for free as they want you to stay with them

On my one they just ran it round the fence after it came out of the green
stuff my side of the fence. What I can't figure out is with an upward facing
hole why is not the whole system full of water by now?
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a mini-
digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area (hand up
to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

Further investigation shows that the first foot or so is in trunking.

The trunking stops, the cable goes up and over the tree roots, almost to
the surface, then dips down again.

After that, up to the existing path, bare cable is laid in the soil at a
reasonable depth (digger didn't go down that far) but no green trunking or
buried warning tape to indicate that there is a thin black cable buried.

So if you inspect the installation from either end you see green trunking,
but the majority of the run is unprotected in bare earth.

The builders have suggested that the cable was laid by contractors with
just enough trunking showing to satisfy a post installation inspection.

Whatever, running it up near the surface and over the tree roots is
definitely naughty and very vulnerable to digging of any sort.

Virgin are coming out tomorrow morning (according to their robot call
answering service) - as far as I can tell there was no opportunity to talk
to a real human.

The call system claimed to have tested the phone line and found that it
was working. I doubt it would work over an air gap that size!

Anyway, strength in depth.

We have lost phone, broadband, TV (bundle).

Internet is now running on 3 via the AP on our Galaxy S3 (unlimited data).

We have mobile phones (as well as the Galaxy) - O2 PAYG.

The TV is also linked to terrestrial and satellite.

So all we have really lost is incoming calls on the land line and the use
of our Tivo box to record new programmes and pause/rewind live TV.

Life would have been much more difficult if we had all our eggs in one
basket.

The 3 mobile broadband is really pretty good, as well.


Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the cable.

Cheers

Dave R

Brian Gaff wrote:
On my one they just ran it round the fence after it came out of the
green stuff my side of the fence. What I can't figure out is with an
upward facing hole why is not the whole system full of water by now?
Brian

Maybe there is a drain hole that you failed to spot.

--
Adam

If you recall, when a lot of this was laid it was United Artists, and they
were dragged through the media for killing trees by using those slot
cutting gadgets, straight through the roots. So one could suspect that faced
with a tree in the way, they did this bodge to not get done for a new tree.

Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a mini-
digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area (hand
up
to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

Further investigation shows that the first foot or so is in trunking.

The trunking stops, the cable goes up and over the tree roots, almost to
the surface, then dips down again.

After that, up to the existing path, bare cable is laid in the soil at a
reasonable depth (digger didn't go down that far) but no green trunking
or
buried warning tape to indicate that there is a thin black cable buried.

So if you inspect the installation from either end you see green
trunking,
but the majority of the run is unprotected in bare earth.

The builders have suggested that the cable was laid by contractors with
just enough trunking showing to satisfy a post installation inspection.

Whatever, running it up near the surface and over the tree roots is
definitely naughty and very vulnerable to digging of any sort.

Virgin are coming out tomorrow morning (according to their robot call
answering service) - as far as I can tell there was no opportunity to
talk
to a real human.

The call system claimed to have tested the phone line and found that it
was working. I doubt it would work over an air gap that size!

Anyway, strength in depth.

We have lost phone, broadband, TV (bundle).

Internet is now running on 3 via the AP on our Galaxy S3 (unlimited
data).

We have mobile phones (as well as the Galaxy) - O2 PAYG.

The TV is also linked to terrestrial and satellite.

So all we have really lost is incoming calls on the land line and the use
of our Tivo box to record new programmes and pause/rewind live TV.

Life would have been much more difficult if we had all our eggs in one
basket.

The 3 mobile broadband is really pretty good, as well.


Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the
cable.

Cheers

Dave R

I had a similar problem with my VM/NTL cable being laid in a spade slot
across the grass - no more than 100mm deep but at least in flexi green
conduit all the way. When we replaced the grass with pavers, I dug up the
cable and laid on the surface so the contractor could see it and I warned
him about taking care but he still managed to cut it. However his approach
was to flag down a passing VM/NTL engineer and got him to repair it there
and then - I have no idea if beer tokens changed hands or not but we have
had no problems with the repair in the three years or so so since it
happened.

Bob

PS Horrible cable to work with btw. Figure of 8 with one coax and three
twisted pairs for phone lines but filled with a really sticky gloop to
repel any water that gets in. Sticks like sh*t to your hands, tools etc

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:49:22 +0100, ARW wrote:

David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a
mini- digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area (hand
up to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose
pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

snip

Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the
cable.

The cable will still work if you joint it with strip connector:-)

ISTR Virgin replace for free as they want you to stay with them

Discussions passim on uk.tech.digital-tv suggest that any join in a cable
however good results in some degree of signal degradation.

Given that speeds are going up every year, the best possible cable
connection seems a good idea.

I would also like the whole run in clearly visible ducting so any future
excavation will be less likely to cause damage.

So I expect them to run in some nice new cable in some nice new ducting
for free.

Dead easy as the whole run is now exposed and they don't have to do any
digging.

And yes, I am sure the country is full of cable runs which have been
accidentally cut then DIYd together again :-)

In a truly professional manner, of course ;-)

Cheers

Dave R

On 18/07/2013 12:06, David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a mini-
digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area (hand up
to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

Further investigation shows that the first foot or so is in trunking.

The trunking stops, the cable goes up and over the tree roots, almost to
the surface, then dips down again.

After that, up to the existing path, bare cable is laid in the soil at a
reasonable depth (digger didn't go down that far) but no green trunking or
buried warning tape to indicate that there is a thin black cable buried.

So if you inspect the installation from either end you see green trunking,
but the majority of the run is unprotected in bare earth.

The builders have suggested that the cable was laid by contractors with
just enough trunking showing to satisfy a post installation inspection.

Whatever, running it up near the surface and over the tree roots is
definitely naughty and very vulnerable to digging of any sort.

Virgin are coming out tomorrow morning (according to their robot call
answering service) - as far as I can tell there was no opportunity to talk
to a real human.

The call system claimed to have tested the phone line and found that it
was working. I doubt it would work over an air gap that size!

Anyway, strength in depth.

We have lost phone, broadband, TV (bundle).

Internet is now running on 3 via the AP on our Galaxy S3 (unlimited data).

We have mobile phones (as well as the Galaxy) - O2 PAYG.

The TV is also linked to terrestrial and satellite.

So all we have really lost is incoming calls on the land line and the use
of our Tivo box to record new programmes and pause/rewind live TV.

Life would have been much more difficult if we had all our eggs in one
basket.

The 3 mobile broadband is really pretty good, as well.


Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the cable.

Cheers

Dave R

Yep, used to work for Virgin (Telewest in those days). We had
contractor squads paid £20 to go ahead of the installers and put the
drop cables in from Network pit to house. It was common practice to use
a meter of Flexi - conduit at either end to give the impression that the
whole drop cable was in it. They also used to split next doors cable
with a inline splitter for the coax and jelly crimp one of the spare
phone cables. Then bury the joint so it couldn't be found.

If you pay piece work like that, it always happens.

--
yendor
If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is.

On 18/07/2013 19:58, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:49:22 +0100, ARW wrote:

David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a
mini- digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area (hand
up to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose
pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

snip

Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the
cable.

The cable will still work if you joint it with strip connector:-)

ISTR Virgin replace for free as they want you to stay with them

Discussions passim on uk.tech.digital-tv suggest that any join in a cable
however good results in some degree of signal degradation.

Given that speeds are going up every year, the best possible cable
connection seems a good idea.

I would also like the whole run in clearly visible ducting so any future
excavation will be less likely to cause damage.

So I expect them to run in some nice new cable in some nice new ducting
for free.

Dead easy as the whole run is now exposed and they don't have to do any
digging.

And yes, I am sure the country is full of cable runs which have been
accidentally cut then DIYd together again :-)

In a truly professional manner, of course ;-)

Cheers

Dave R

If they don't do what you want, ask to speak to the installation manager.

--
yendor
If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is.

On 18/07/2013 19:58, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
Given that speeds are going up every year, the best possible cable
connection seems a good idea.

Speeds have gone up over the years - but far from every year in any one
location. In fact, the announcement of the last increase was itself well
over a year ahead of the actuality.

--
Rod

David.WE.Roberts wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:49:22 +0100, ARW wrote:

David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a
mini- digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area
(hand up to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose
pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

snip

Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the
cable.

The cable will still work if you joint it with strip connector:-)

ISTR Virgin replace for free as they want you to stay with them

Discussions passim on uk.tech.digital-tv suggest that any join in a
cable however good results in some degree of signal degradation.

Given that speeds are going up every year, the best possible cable
connection seems a good idea.

I would also like the whole run in clearly visible ducting so any
future excavation will be less likely to cause damage.

So I expect them to run in some nice new cable in some nice new
ducting for free.

Dead easy as the whole run is now exposed and they don't have to do
any digging.

And yes, I am sure the country is full of cable runs which have been
accidentally cut then DIYd together again :-)

In a truly professional manner, of course ;-)


I am only suggesting the DIY re-connection untiil Virgin replace the cable
for free.



--
Adam

On Thursday 18 July 2013 19:51 Brian Gaff wrote in uk.d-i-y:

On my one they just ran it round the fence after it came out of the green
stuff my side of the fence. What I can't figure out is with an upward
facing hole why is not the whole system full of water by now?
Brian


I've always been a bit dismayed about the half arsed way cableTV cable is
laid.

I suppose it makes commercial sense (max customers, min effort, fix a few
cables later) - but even so...

I remember phone wire coming through 1/2" iron conduit buried in the house I
grew up in.


--
Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://squiddy.blog.dionic.net/

http://www.sensorly.com/ Crowd mapping of 2G/3G/4G mobile signal coverage

Reading this on the web? See:
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:22:36 +0100, ARW wrote:

David.WE.Roberts wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:49:22 +0100, ARW wrote:

David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a
mini- digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area
(hand up to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose
pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

snip

Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the
cable.

The cable will still work if you joint it with strip connector:-)

ISTR Virgin replace for free as they want you to stay with them

Discussions passim on uk.tech.digital-tv suggest that any join in a
cable however good results in some degree of signal degradation.

Given that speeds are going up every year, the best possible cable
connection seems a good idea.

I would also like the whole run in clearly visible ducting so any
future excavation will be less likely to cause damage.

So I expect them to run in some nice new cable in some nice new ducting
for free.

Dead easy as the whole run is now exposed and they don't have to do any
digging.

And yes, I am sure the country is full of cable runs which have been
accidentally cut then DIYd together again :-)

In a truly professional manner, of course ;-)


I am only suggesting the DIY re-connection untiil Virgin replace the
cable for free.

See the "strength in depth" bit of the OP :-)

Cheers

Dave R

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:14:20 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

I've always been a bit dismayed about the half arsed way cableTV cable is
laid.

Laid? Laid?
First time I saw an estate cabled up it ran from the end of one block
to the end of the next one with a whole two bashed-in cable clips at
each end. The place was a criss-cross network of poorly-installed
cabling just barely high enough to satisfy clearance of Transit vans
and nothing else. Total bodge, the whole thing.
Amazingly, it worked, but for how long, I don't know.

In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus
If you recall, when a lot of this was laid it was United Artists, and they
were dragged through the media for killing trees by using those slot
cutting gadgets, straight through the roots. So one could suspect that faced
with a tree in the way, they did this bodge to not get done for a new tree.

Brian

Yes they made a big fuss about this back then but guess what!, no trees
were killed in the digging of any roads round here. Course its
resistance to change the co-ax that gets BB here at fast consistent
rates.

BB over fibre to the cab and co-ax to the home now some 20 years
old...
--
Tony Sayer

In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon scribeth thus
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:14:20 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

I've always been a bit dismayed about the half arsed way cableTV cable is
laid.

Laid? Laid?
First time I saw an estate cabled up it ran from the end of one block
to the end of the next one with a whole two bashed-in cable clips at
each end. The place was a criss-cross network of poorly-installed
cabling just barely high enough to satisfy clearance of Transit vans
and nothing else. Total bodge, the whole thing.
Amazingly, it worked, but for how long, I don't know.

Some .. were installed better than others Grimly...

Round here it was Comcast and by and large they did a decent job of most
all of it..
--
Tony Sayer

David WE Roberts wrote:
We are digging up the front garden to extend the drive, and using a
mini- digger.

Virgin cable connection from the road to the house under the area
(hand up to forgetting it was there, however....).

At the house end you can see green trunking - like a big green hose
pipe.

At the wall end you can also see trunking.

Builders used the mini-digger to pull out a tree stump.

Oops! Broken cable.

Further investigation shows that the first foot or so is in trunking.



It's only in trunking where it goes under a fence or wall, and also where it
goes through a flowerbed, this is the norm and I've never seen it done any
other way

The trunking stops, the cable goes up and over the tree roots, almost
to the surface, then dips down again.

After that, up to the existing path, bare cable is laid in the soil
at a reasonable depth (digger didn't go down that far) but no green
trunking or buried warning tape to indicate that there is a thin
black cable buried.

So if you inspect the installation from either end you see green
trunking, but the majority of the run is unprotected in bare earth.

that's how it's supposed to be.

The builders have suggested that the cable was laid by contractors
with just enough trunking showing to satisfy a post installation
inspection.

Whatever, running it up near the surface and over the tree roots is
definitely naughty and very vulnerable to digging of any sort.


When it was installed, it was one man with a small spade, and he has to take
the shortes route from the box on the pavement, to the entry point at the
house end, he isn't equiped with chain saws, mini diggers and pneumatic
moles to get underneath large trees

Virgin are coming out tomorrow morning (according to their robot call
answering service) - as far as I can tell there was no opportunity to
talk to a real human.

The call system claimed to have tested the phone line and found that
it was working. I doubt it would work over an air gap that size!

Anyway, strength in depth.

We have lost phone, broadband, TV (bundle).

Internet is now running on 3 via the AP on our Galaxy S3 (unlimited
data).

We have mobile phones (as well as the Galaxy) - O2 PAYG.

The TV is also linked to terrestrial and satellite.

So all we have really lost is incoming calls on the land line and the
use of our Tivo box to record new programmes and pause/rewind live TV.

Life would have been much more difficult if we had all our eggs in one
basket.

The 3 mobile broadband is really pretty good, as well.


Fun and games tomorrow if Virgin try to blame us for digging up the
cable.

I've done loads of them, they put it down as a gardening accident

tony sayer wrote:
Round here it was Comcast and by and large they did a decent job of most
all of it..

You can tell an NTL (or was it Cambridge Cable?) 'special'. Customer wanted
cable in the back room of a terraced house. So they run the cable up the
front wall, throw a loose cable over the roof, and then run it down the back
wall...

Theo

In article , Theo Markettos
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tony sayer wrote:
Round here it was Comcast and by and large they did a decent job of most
all of it..

You can tell an NTL (or was it Cambridge Cable?) 'special'. Customer wanted
cable in the back room of a terraced house. So they run the cable up the
front wall, throw a loose cable over the roof, and then run it down the back
wall...

Theo

Well they did have various installer firms over time Sierra construction
McCourt Kiewit, Cable and utilities and one other notable outfit I can't
remember, but as said they used to make a decent job of most.

Course there were some DIY ones prolly that was one of them or the
punter didn't want it through the house..

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Tony Sayer