I just picked up one of LiDL's current offer LED under-cabinet lights for
£10: got the 7W output one, and it's brilliantly bright and very light
(weight). Haven't found a use for it yet but it may find its way onto the
van as a work light, as an alternative to the rather bulky 2D tasklight
(with some hooks, magnets and/or velcro straps attached to hold it onto
things).

Recommended.

(Also got an LED GLS replacement from Clas Olson recently, also a tenner,
also 7W, branded "V-LIGHT", also excellent: was going to try it in the
PIR-switched outside light but no good because it flickers, but excellent
replacing a 20W CF in our landing light. Now all I need are some decent,
reasonably priced GU10 replacements - any recommendations?)

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John Stumbles

If a tree falls in a forest, can one hand hear it clap?

On 14 Apr 2013 22:42:22 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

(Also got an LED GLS replacement from Clas Olson recently, also a
tenner, also 7W, branded "V-LIGHT", also excellent:

Is that a "corn cob" type with a fairly even all round light emmsion?

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Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
John Stumbles writes:
I just picked up one of LiDL's current offer LED under-cabinet lights for
£10: got the 7W output one, and it's brilliantly bright and very light
(weight). Haven't found a use for it yet but it may find its way onto the
van as a work light, as an alternative to the rather bulky 2D tasklight
(with some hooks, magnets and/or velcro straps attached to hold it onto
things).

Recommended.

(Also got an LED GLS replacement from Clas Olson recently, also a tenner,
also 7W, branded "V-LIGHT", also excellent: was going to try it in the
PIR-switched outside light but no good because it flickers, but excellent
replacing a 20W CF in our landing light. Now all I need are some decent,
reasonably priced GU10 replacements - any recommendations?)

I picked up a couple of good LED lamps from Clas Olson many months back.
Must pop in and see what they have now.

As for GU10 replacements - depends what you're expecting.
If your fittings can take over-long GU10's (floating lampholder),
then you have more options for higher light output, as those LED
lamps have to be bigger than real GU10s in order to dissipate
enough heat whilst staying within temperature range.
Also bare in mind that the LED ones tend to have more accurate
beam cut-off, and in many badly designed GU10 installations, you
are actually relying on the light spill outside of the main beam
for general lighting, which will be missing in the LED versions.

In some cases, replacing the GU10 holder with a dedicate LED
light will be better, as the GU10 format lamp (bulb) is
particularly bad as a format for retrofit LEDs.

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On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:07:14 +0100, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Is that a "corn cob" type with a fairly even all round light emmsion?

No, sort of ice-cream cone



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On 16 Apr 2013 00:28:12 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

Is that a "corn cob" type with a fairly even all round light emmsion?

No, sort of ice-cream cone

So has a light distribution mainly in the opposite direction to the base?

We have a few bulkhead exterior lights, they need a GLS type bulb that
sends light out mainly sideways rather than the end. CFL's are OK, with a
big ish as they don't like the cold.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 11:42:22 PM UTC+1, John Stumbles wrote:
I just picked up one of LiDL's current offer LED under-cabinet lights for

£10: got the 7W output one, and it's brilliantly bright and very light

(weight). Haven't found a use for it yet but it may find its way onto the

van as a work light, as an alternative to the rather bulky 2D tasklight

(with some hooks, magnets and/or velcro straps attached to hold it onto

things).



Recommended.


I got 5 of those to put under kitchen cabinets in runs of 3 and 2. I didn't realise the brighter version was not linkable like the lower powered version.
But it turns out they fit into the corners better, and I only needed at most 2 in a cabinet run after all, so I'll have to use an extra little junction box which is a pain. However, the extra cable will run behind the corner brackets, which reduces the pain. The 7W has surface mounted LED "elements" whereas the 5W is some type of non-replaceable "tube" of LEDs.
Simon.

On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:57:55 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In some cases, replacing the GU10 holder with a dedicate LED light will
be better, as the GU10 format lamp (bulb) is particularly bad as a
format for retrofit LEDs.

Any suggestions? I've currently got a 4 * GU10 bar-type (2 swivel arms, 2
holders on each) fitting in the kitchen. CFs are OK in there but take
ages to come up to brightness. Don't really want to put in recessed
fittings (at least not now - may have to do some work on the ceiling
later which might change that) but I don't think there's much beside GU10
or MR16s(? 12v similar size lamps) in surface mount fittings.

(Well, not except standard straight fluoro, but SWMBO ... :-()



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John Stumbles

"Write a wise saying and your name will live forever" -- anonymous

On 19 Apr 2013 14:29:02 GMT, John Stumbles
wrote:

Any suggestions? I've currently got a 4 * GU10 bar-type (2 swivel arms, 2
holders on each) fitting in the kitchen. CFs are OK in there but take
ages to come up to brightness. Don't really want to put in recessed
fittings (at least not now - may have to do some work on the ceiling
later which might change that) but I don't think there's much beside GU10
or MR16s(? 12v similar size lamps) in surface mount fittings.

GU10 to whatever-you-like converters.

I bought B22 to E27 and E27 extenders from this seller.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/DQP/Adaptor...sub=4281909018


Here's the one for you...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320892287124

One of the few who posts items here without trying to stitch me up,
although ebay tried it, because it regarded each and every socket as
an additional package. Soon sorted though, and the adapters are
perfectly ok quality.

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:36:16 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

One of the few who posts items here without trying to stitch me up,
although ebay tried it, because it regarded each and every socket as an
additional package. Soon sorted though, and the adapters are perfectly
ok quality.

The GU10 to MR16 looks fun.

Reminds me of what someone I knew used to make: he took a standard 13A
plugtop, soldered a very stout wire between the L & N pins (bypassing the
fuseholder), stuck a label on it saying "Little Gem Fuse Tester" and left
it around & watched to see who was inquisitive enough to try it out :-)



--
John Stumbles

Science flies people to the moon
Religion flies people into skyscrapers

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:12:34 +0100, Dave Liquorice wrote:

So has a light distribution mainly in the opposite direction to the
base?

We have a few bulkhead exterior lights, they need a GLS type bulb that
sends light out mainly sideways rather than the end. CFL's are OK, with
a big ish as they don't like the cold.

That's what I wanted this one for. The hemispherical part of the bulb is
a diffuse opal and the spread of light sideways seems ok-ish for an
outside light though you won't get any at obtuse angles.


--
John Stumbles

"I used to think correlation implied causation.
Then I took a statistics course and now I don't."
"Sounds as if the statistics course helped."
"Well, maybe."

On 21 Apr 2013 01:46:41 GMT, John Stumbles
wrote:

The GU10 to MR16 looks fun.

I'll bet that catches a few out.
MR16 isn't voltage-specific, but almost unknown in domestic settings
at anything above 12V.

How long will the bulbs last ! As I didn't realise before fitting 5 of these that you cant replace the bulbs.

wrote:

How long will the bulbs last ! As I didn't realise before fitting 5
of these that you cant replace the bulbs.

Vanishingly unlikely to be the actual LEDs that fail; so being
non-replaceable isn't a problem. John will be along soon to tell us how
they've fared after 5 years ...