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Only just? I'd have thought it would have had one a long time ago.
Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Another Dave" wrote in message ... news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi Another Dave |
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On 04/04/2013 16:13, Brian Gaff wrote:
Only just? I'd have thought it would have had one a long time ago. Within the last week. It seems they're a lot more picky than they used to be about starting newsgroups or maybe it's persuading servers to carry it that's the difficulty. I supported a campaign to get it going so it's not automatic. Another Dave |
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On 04/04/2013 15:26, Another Dave wrote:
news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi Ta... Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm wrote:
On 04/04/2013 15:26, Another Dave wrote: news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi Ta... Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Something up with your news server? I see 11 active threads at the moment. Theo |
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On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:18:08 +0100, John Rumm wrote:
Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! eh? Around 28 posts today. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Apr 4, 8:28*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:18:08 +0100, John Rumm wrote: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! eh? Around 28 posts today. Quite - I currently see 66 posts since Tuesday. Maybe John needs a new news provider! ;-) James |
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On 04/04/2013 22:43, James Harris wrote:
On Apr 4, 8:28 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:18:08 +0100, John Rumm wrote: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! eh? Around 28 posts today. Quite - I currently see 66 posts since Tuesday. Maybe John needs a new news provider! ;-) Perhaps giganews is too much of a backwater! ;-) To be fair, I can see some thread there now - just not when Dave posted the original message. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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En el artículo , John
Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! What other reason do you need to get a Pi? http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...lator-tips-up- for-the-raspberry-pi -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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I demand that Mike Tomlinson may or may not have written...
En el artículo , John Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! What other reason do you need to get a Pi? Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? -- | _ | Darren Salt, using Debian GNU/Linux (and Android) | ( ) | | X | ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail | / \ | http://www.asciiribbon.org/ Don't everyone thank me at once. |
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On 05/04/13 12:30, Darren Salt wrote:
I demand that Mike Tomlinson may or may not have written... En el artÃ*culo , John Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! What other reason do you need to get a Pi? Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? probably because a native build wont run on ARM? -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 05/04/13 12:30, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Mike Tomlinson may or may not have written... En el artÃ*culo , John Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! What other reason do you need to get a Pi? Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? probably because a native build wont run on ARM? Runs just fine using prboom, etc. http://unicorn.drogon.net/doom2.jpg That photo was taken almost 11 months ago fwiw. Do keep up! -Gordon |
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On 05/04/2013 12:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/04/13 12:30, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Mike Tomlinson may or may not have written... En el artÃ*culo , John Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! What other reason do you need to get a Pi? Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? probably because a native build wont run on ARM? There is a native build of Quake IIRC... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On the 5 Apr 2013, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: On 05/04/13 12:30, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Mike Tomlinson may or may not have written... En el artículo , John Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! What other reason do you need to get a Pi? Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? probably because a native build wont run on ARM? There has been a RISC OS port of Doom for five, maybe even ten years. That runs on ARM. See https://sites.google.com/site/jeffreyadoggett/ for example. There are even ports of Quake, Syndicate and Descent from http://www.arsvcs.demon.co.uk/leisure/index.html among other people. Games have been ported from PC (and before that Amiga, ST etc.) to ARM-powered computers since the late eighties. They've even been ported the other way round. What you can actually run on the Pi depends on what OS you're using. It's possible that a good number of the RISC OS ports will work on the Pi. The real question is whether 'ArcElite' will run. -- Graham Thurlwell. Jades' First Encounters Site. http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm The best Frontier: First Encounters site on the Web. |
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On 5 Apr, 12:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/04/13 12:30, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Mike Tomlinson may or may not have written... En el artículo , John Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. *A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! *What other reason do you need to get a Pi? Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? probably because a native build wont run on ARM? Doom was running, compiled natively, on ARM 10 years ago. MBQ |
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In article , Darren Salt
writes Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? Because there's loads of other stuff that'll run on DOS for which sources are not available. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On 05/04/2013 14:49, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article , Darren Salt writes Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? Because there's loads of other stuff that'll run on DOS for which sources are not available. I recall seeing mention of a 486 PC emulator that runs in a javascript in a browser... There is a linux version he http://bellard.org/jslinux/ -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 2013-04-05, Darren Salt wrote:
I demand that Mike Tomlinson may or may not have written... En el artÃ*culo , John Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! What other reason do you need to get a Pi? Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? Because then it would be "prboom" and not "doom" ? -- š‚šƒ 100% natural |
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Jasen Betts wrote: On 2013-04-05, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Mike Tomlinson may or may not have written... En el artÃ*culo , John Rumm escribió: Looks rather devoid of messages at the moment! Get posting then. A decent x86 emulator has just come out for it, and it'll play Doom! What other reason do you need to get a Pi? Why x86 emulation when you can (or should be able to) run a native build? Because then it would be "prboom" and not "doom" ? Is the game the executable program that interprets the data file, or is the game the data file? doom.exe interprets doom.wad and lets you play Doom the game. prboom interprets doom.wad and lets you play Doom the game. Same when playing Zork - is the game the z-code intrepreter or the data files? I doubt anyone would argue that in the Zork case the game is the data file and the z-code intrepreter has been ported to many platforms - same for Doom - since the doom engine has been ported to many platforms, prboom is just one implementation of the doom engine that happens to run under Linux. So I have had the ability to play Doom (and Doom II - I have the original CDs) under Linux for many years and the Pi is just one more PC I can run Doom under. If you think it can't run Doom just because you're not running doom.exe then I think you're just being a shade too pedantic - the game is the WAD file not the interpreter. The photo I posted earlier was taken almost a year ago. Doom runs fine on the Pi - it's been running for a year. Gordon |
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news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi just as the Pi goes on sale in the USA. |
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On Apr 4, 8:02*pm, Andy Burns wrote:
Another Dave wrote: news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi just as the Pi goes on sale in the USA. I thought it was available worldwide anyway. Has something else happened to aid sales in America? James |
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roups.com, James Harris escribió: I thought it was available worldwide anyway. Has something else happened to aid sales in America? model B available for a year, model A just launched, according to this: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-pi-sells-out- in-the-us-on-launch-day beats me why anyone would save a couple bucks by going for the A. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On 05/04/2013 03:45, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo roups.com, James Harris escribió: I thought it was available worldwide anyway. Has something else happened to aid sales in America? model B available for a year, model A just launched, according to this: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-pi-sells-out- in-the-us-on-launch-day beats me why anyone would save a couple bucks by going for the A. The main attraction of an A is the low power consumption. Being cheaper is also a bonus for some "embedded" style applications. I used one the other day for a client who wanted a promo video running on a TV in a window display. The original plan was simply to stick it on a USB flash drive and let the TV's media player deal with it. Alas it gave an ugly warning each time it started to play the particular video they had had prepared. So a bit of experimentation with a pi showed that it would play it flawlessly over HDMI. A model A had a low enough power requirement that it could be powered from the TV's USB port, giving a simple self contained solution. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 2013-04-05, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo roups.com, James Harris escribió: I thought it was available worldwide anyway. Has something else happened to aid sales in America? model B available for a year, model A just launched, according to this: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-pi-sells-out- in-the-us-on-launch-day beats me why anyone would save a couple bucks by going for the A. A can do USB-OTG, uses less power and is slightly cheaper than the B -- š‚šƒ 100% natural |
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James Harris wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: just as the Pi goes on sale in the USA. I thought it was available worldwide anyway. Ah, looks like it was the cheaper Model A going on sale. http://www.alliedelec.com/lp/130124rasomodela/ |
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"Another Dave" wrote in message ... news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi Another Dave Which news server are you using, Dave? Astraweb doesn't seem to carry it, so far. |
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En el artículo om, bm
escribió: Which news server are you using, Dave? Astraweb doesn't seem to carry it, so far. Individual.net and Eternal-September have it. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On 04/04/2013 23:50, bm wrote:
Which news server are you using, Dave? Astraweb doesn't seem to carry it, so far. news.eternal-september.org Another Dave |
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news:comp.sys.raspberry-pi Great! I hate to use all those web based forums. It's so inefficient to point, click, type, paste, and copy in the browser. It's so much better to browse the threaded groups and typing messages in emacs/gnus. //Petter -- ..sig removed by request. |
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En el artículo , Petter Gustad
escribió: Great! I hate to use all those web based forums. +1 It's so inefficient to point, click, type, paste, and copy in the browser. And you can't killfile idiots and trolls. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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writes I agree, but Usenet is dying. Still twitching, but I fear 'Film at 11' will shortly become a reality. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On 05/04/2013 08:41, Huge wrote:
On 2013-04-05, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artÃ*culo , Petter Gustad escribió: Great! I hate to use all those web based forums. +1 It's so inefficient to point, click, type, paste, and copy in the browser. And you can't killfile idiots and trolls. I agree, but Usenet is dying. ( Not for another year - paid my Berlin sub the other day. :-) -- Rod |
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On 05/04/2013 10:55, Huge wrote:
On 2013-04-05, polygonum wrote: On 05/04/2013 08:41, Huge wrote: I agree, but Usenet is dying. ( Not for another year - paid my Berlin sub the other day. :-) Well, me too. I like Usenet, for all kinds of reasons, but someone showed me a depressing graph of traffic analysis for the uk.* groups (I wish I could find it again! Ah, here we go ...) http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/spoolstats/ Is there some way we could make Usenet more popular? (Not "Facebook" popular, but if we could get some new blood in - I suspect most Usenet users are getting on...) Hmm; Someone's just claimed the first post made on a Raspberry Pi. (* Likely before that - if volumes fall too far, the existing providers will drop out. Still, we could carry on as a hobbyist "service", I suppose.) How much of the 50% reduction in message numbers and bytes used on the greenend.org graph is due to people not using the binary groups to share files with the rise of facebook and other sharing services such as soundcloud and Flickr? It's also only showing figures since 2010, so what happened before that? Advantages of text only usenet are that it's cheap to operate, in storage, processing and bandwidth. It's also resilient, and has been known to work when other means of communication were cut off either by government action or physical problems. IIRC, the first eyewitness reports of 9/11 came out on newsgroups, though some cellphone calls nay have beaten them. It also works well over a slow connection. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 05/04/2013 11:12, John Williamson wrote:
On 05/04/2013 10:55, Huge wrote: On 2013-04-05, polygonum wrote: On 05/04/2013 08:41, Huge wrote: I agree, but Usenet is dying. ( Not for another year - paid my Berlin sub the other day. :-) Well, me too. I like Usenet, for all kinds of reasons, but someone showed me a depressing graph of traffic analysis for the uk.* groups (I wish I could find it again! Ah, here we go ...) http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/spoolstats/ Is there some way we could make Usenet more popular? (Not "Facebook" popular, but if we could get some new blood in - I suspect most Usenet users are getting on...) Hmm; Someone's just claimed the first post made on a Raspberry Pi. (* Likely before that - if volumes fall too far, the existing providers will drop out. Still, we could carry on as a hobbyist "service", I suppose.) How much of the 50% reduction in message numbers and bytes used on the greenend.org graph is due to people not using the binary groups to share files with the rise of facebook and other sharing services such as soundcloud and Flickr? It's also only showing figures since 2010, so what happened before that? Advantages of text only usenet are that it's cheap to operate, in storage, processing and bandwidth. It's also resilient, and has been known to work when other means of communication were cut off either by government action or physical problems. IIRC, the first eyewitness reports of 9/11 came out on newsgroups, though some cellphone calls nay have beaten them. It also works well over a slow connection. Agreed. That some servers seem to allow non-text was also an issue. As far as I am concerned, I would be happy for Usenet to be 100% pure text. After all we now have at least dozens of ways of sharing non-text files as and when required. -- Rod |
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On 05/04/13 11:12, John Williamson wrote:
On 05/04/2013 10:55, Huge wrote: On 2013-04-05, polygonum wrote: On 05/04/2013 08:41, Huge wrote: I agree, but Usenet is dying. ( Not for another year - paid my Berlin sub the other day. :-) Well, me too. I like Usenet, for all kinds of reasons, but someone showed me a depressing graph of traffic analysis for the uk.* groups (I wish I could find it again! Ah, here we go ...) http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/spoolstats/ Is there some way we could make Usenet more popular? (Not "Facebook" popular, but if we could get some new blood in - I suspect most Usenet users are getting on...) Hmm; Someone's just claimed the first post made on a Raspberry Pi. (* Likely before that - if volumes fall too far, the existing providers will drop out. Still, we could carry on as a hobbyist "service", I suppose.) How much of the 50% reduction in message numbers and bytes used on the greenend.org graph is due to people not using the binary groups to share files with the rise of facebook and other sharing services such as soundcloud and Flickr? It's also only showing figures since 2010, so what happened before that? Advantages of text only usenet are that it's cheap to operate, in storage, processing and bandwidth. You have obviously never run a news server. Its MASSiVELY STUPENDOUSLY expensive to provide storage,.. Even for text only. Or it was back in the day. Multiple copies of every single message ever written, or even the last 6 weeks or so, mean storage is replicated for the entire usenet traffic right across the internet, and back in the day of modems and UUCP, beyond as well. All one could say was that it was a best efforts way of propagating text messages across an unreliable and intermittent network of peer to peer machines. The ONLY thing it was good at was bandwidth. Even that wasn't great. Again back in the day running a full text only server was chewing 30% of total bandwidth he had. Today of course with streaming videos its barely noticeable. It's also resilient, and has been known to work when other means of communication were cut off either by government action or physical problems. IIRC, the first eyewitness reports of 9/11 came out on newsgroups, though some cellphone calls nay have beaten them. It also works well over a slow connection. those are its advantages. But they are the only ones. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 05/04/2013 10:55, Huge wrote:
Well, me too. I like Usenet, for all kinds of reasons, but someone showed me a depressing graph of traffic analysis for the uk.* groups (I wish I could find it again! Ah, here we go ...) http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/spoolstats/ It's not so much the steady decline in volumes, although if continued, Usenet will be gone by 2016(*), but the 'number of posters' figures. There are 40 million people on the internet in the UK and only 1500 of them post to Usenet? (Actually fewer than that, given that a some of them will be sock puppets). Is there some way we could make Usenet more popular? (Not "Facebook" popular, but if we could get some new blood in - I suspect most Usenet users are getting on...) Hmm; Someone's just claimed the first post made on a Raspberry Pi. (* Likely before that - if volumes fall too far, the existing providers will drop out. Still, we could carry on as a hobbyist "service", I suppose.) I hate to say it, could there be a DIY-banter style web interface - but one that did not have all the crap associated with the existing web interface sites? In fact, simply a recreation of a typical news reader on a web page. Or a Facebook Usenet page? :-) Or feed uk.d-i-y into Twitter? I was very sad few years ago - an alt.support group lost large numbers of posters due to a combination of: A ludicrous family spat where several of the extended family saw fit to post masses of very unpleasant stuff. A huge wave of spam many of them saw - which was largely blocked by Berlin. A particular very odd individual who posted in a way that some found deeply upsetting. He was permanently on medical marijuana (seriously) but had a habit of putting the blame for being unwell on the posters themselves. The removal of usenet server access from many in the USA. Add onto that the travesty which was Google's handling of everything to do with Usenet... Now we see at most a dozen posts in a month and most of them are without any real reason - sort of keep-awake posts with the odd response. -- Rod |
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On 05/04/2013 11:14, polygonum wrote:
On 05/04/2013 10:55, Huge wrote: Well, me too. I like Usenet, for all kinds of reasons, but someone showed me a depressing graph of traffic analysis for the uk.* groups (I wish I could find it again! Ah, here we go ...) http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/spoolstats/ It's not so much the steady decline in volumes, although if continued, Usenet will be gone by 2016(*), but the 'number of posters' figures. There are 40 million people on the internet in the UK and only 1500 of them post to Usenet? (Actually fewer than that, given that a some of them will be sock puppets). Is there some way we could make Usenet more popular? (Not "Facebook" popular, but if we could get some new blood in - I suspect most Usenet users are getting on...) Hmm; Someone's just claimed the first post made on a Raspberry Pi. (* Likely before that - if volumes fall too far, the existing providers will drop out. Still, we could carry on as a hobbyist "service", I suppose.) I hate to say it, could there be a DIY-banter style web interface - but one that did not have all the crap associated with the existing web interface sites? In fact, simply a recreation of a typical news reader on a web page. I have yet to see a web forum that is not a slow horrid thing to use... it really ought to be possible to do something responsive these days that allows proper threaded conversations. I suppose even an email list server could do it these days - it would not be that onerous to receive a full group feed, and email progs like TB can do threaded email as well. No reason we could not have group access built into the FAQ page either I suppose. Or a Facebook Usenet page? :-) Or feed uk.d-i-y into Twitter? For DIY that can be done in 140 characters... ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 05/04/2013 10:55, Huge wrote:
On 2013-04-05, polygonum wrote: On 05/04/2013 08:41, Huge wrote: On 2013-04-05, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artÃ*culo , Petter Gustad escribió: Great! I hate to use all those web based forums. +1 It's so inefficient to point, click, type, paste, and copy in the browser. And you can't killfile idiots and trolls. I agree, but Usenet is dying. ( Not for another year - paid my Berlin sub the other day. :-) Well, me too. I like Usenet, for all kinds of reasons, but someone showed me a depressing graph of traffic analysis for the uk.* groups (I wish I could find it again! Ah, here we go ...) http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/spoolstats/ It's not so much the steady decline in volumes, although if continued, Usenet will be gone by 2016(*), but the 'number of posters' figures. There are 40 million people on the internet in the UK and only 1500 of them post to Usenet? (Actually fewer than that, given that a some of them will be sock puppets). Is there some way we could make Usenet more popular? (Not "Facebook" popular, but if we could get some new blood in - I suspect most Usenet users are getting on...) Hmm; Someone's just claimed the first post made on a Raspberry Pi. (* Likely before that - if volumes fall too far, the existing providers will drop out. Still, we could carry on as a hobbyist "service", I suppose.) Traffic on uk.d-i-y is still holding strong though... 7.5k posts / month for the last 12 months. in fact a rise from 2007, but not quite up to the peak of 10k at the end of 2004. If not using the new google groups, this may still work: http://groups.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/about The all time posting figures are interesting: 24492 23878 22336 21456 16034 15966 13688 12038 11291 11130 from which we can conclude: TNP is winning since he has more than one posting address... Andy Hall is still doing well is spite of being deceased! and I obviously spend too much time here -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 05/04/13 14:55, John Rumm wrote:
On 05/04/2013 10:55, Huge wrote: On 2013-04-05, polygonum wrote: On 05/04/2013 08:41, Huge wrote: On 2013-04-05, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artÃ*culo , Petter Gustad escribió: Great! I hate to use all those web based forums. +1 It's so inefficient to point, click, type, paste, and copy in the browser. And you can't killfile idiots and trolls. I agree, but Usenet is dying. ( Not for another year - paid my Berlin sub the other day. :-) Well, me too. I like Usenet, for all kinds of reasons, but someone showed me a depressing graph of traffic analysis for the uk.* groups (I wish I could find it again! Ah, here we go ...) http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/spoolstats/ It's not so much the steady decline in volumes, although if continued, Usenet will be gone by 2016(*), but the 'number of posters' figures. There are 40 million people on the internet in the UK and only 1500 of them post to Usenet? (Actually fewer than that, given that a some of them will be sock puppets). Is there some way we could make Usenet more popular? (Not "Facebook" popular, but if we could get some new blood in - I suspect most Usenet users are getting on...) Hmm; Someone's just claimed the first post made on a Raspberry Pi. (* Likely before that - if volumes fall too far, the existing providers will drop out. Still, we could carry on as a hobbyist "service", I suppose.) Traffic on uk.d-i-y is still holding strong though... 7.5k posts / month for the last 12 months. in fact a rise from 2007, but not quite up to the peak of 10k at the end of 2004. If not using the new google groups, this may still work: http://groups.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/about The all time posting figures are interesting: 24492 23878 22336 21456 16034 15966 13688 12038 11291 11130 from which we can conclude: TNP is winning since he has more than one posting address... Care to say what on earth that means? I certainly don't have more than one posting address right now. I was at b.c till someone pointed out it was not net friendly Andy Hall is still doing well is spite of being deceased! and I obviously spend too much time here -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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Rumm writes On 05/04/2013 10:55, Huge wrote: On 2013-04-05, polygonum wrote: On 05/04/2013 08:41, Huge wrote: On 2013-04-05, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Petter Gustad escribió: Great! I hate to use all those web based forums. +1 It's so inefficient to point, click, type, paste, and copy in the browser. And you can't killfile idiots and trolls. I agree, but Usenet is dying. ( Not for another year - paid my Berlin sub the other day. :-) Well, me too. I like Usenet, for all kinds of reasons, but someone showed me a depressing graph of traffic analysis for the uk.* groups (I wish I could find it again! Ah, here we go ...) http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/spoolstats/ It's not so much the steady decline in volumes, although if continued, Usenet will be gone by 2016(*), but the 'number of posters' figures. There are 40 million people on the internet in the UK and only 1500 of them post to Usenet? (Actually fewer than that, given that a some of them will be sock puppets). Is there some way we could make Usenet more popular? (Not "Facebook" popular, but if we could get some new blood in - I suspect most Usenet users are getting on...) Hmm; Someone's just claimed the first post made on a Raspberry Pi. (* Likely before that - if volumes fall too far, the existing providers will drop out. Still, we could carry on as a hobbyist "service", I suppose.) Traffic on uk.d-i-y is still holding strong though... 7.5k posts / month for the last 12 months. in fact a rise from 2007, but not quite up to the peak of 10k at the end of 2004. If not using the new google groups, this may still work: http://groups.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/about The all time posting figures are interesting: 24492 23878 22336 21456 16034 15966 13688 12038 11291 11130 from which we can conclude: TNP is winning since he has more than one posting address... Andy Hall is still doing well is spite of being deceased! and I obviously spend too much time here I don't suppose that adding and makes much difference since I now spend considerably less time in here -- geoff |
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