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Tacky rubber/plastics
I've noticed that a couple of bits of my car seem to be undergoing some
kind of chemical change. The volume control on the radio and the door of the glove box are slightly tacky to the touch. Having seen what happens to the drive belts of film projectors and the seals of old cameras when the rubber perishes, I'd like to stop this process before it goes any further. What's actually going on, and what might help retard it? Daniele -- Kraftwerk Consolation Night 20.00 1st March 2013 Chapter Arts Centre Cardiff Eight different live ensembles playing the songs of Kraftwerk to ease the disappointment of being unable to get tickets to see them in London |
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On 02/01/2013 10:26, D.M. Procida wrote:
I've noticed that a couple of bits of my car seem to be undergoing some kind of chemical change. The volume control on the radio and the door of the glove box are slightly tacky to the touch. Having seen what happens to the drive belts of film projectors and the seals of old cameras when the rubber perishes, I'd like to stop this process before it goes any further. What's actually going on, and what might help retard it? You can't do much to slow it down as environmental as factors like UV and ozone are mainly responsible for causing the rubbery plastic to depolymerise. My Psion3 failed exactly the same way - ultimately the plastic turned into black goo which dripped off like potty putty. Best bet is to apply something inert and powdery to soak up the tackiness or overcoat it with something that isn't tacky at all. I have never found a satisfactory solution to the demise of such plastics. Replacing the failing parts with new ones might be the best bet. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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Dunno but I've had it happen to tape recorder belts, white cane handles and
a pressure roller in a tape deck, in the latter case the eventual result was one morning a pile of goo in the machine and just the metal centre on the spindle. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "D.M. Procida" wrote in message ... I've noticed that a couple of bits of my car seem to be undergoing some kind of chemical change. The volume control on the radio and the door of the glove box are slightly tacky to the touch. Having seen what happens to the drive belts of film projectors and the seals of old cameras when the rubber perishes, I'd like to stop this process before it goes any further. What's actually going on, and what might help retard it? Daniele -- Kraftwerk Consolation Night 20.00 1st March 2013 Chapter Arts Centre Cardiff Eight different live ensembles playing the songs of Kraftwerk to ease the disappointment of being unable to get tickets to see them in London |
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Not sure what these are made of, I'd have said rubber, but I suppose there
are these days so many inbetweeny type materials its had to classify. Obviously some kind of bonding is involved that comes unbonded at the molecular level. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Martin Brown" wrote in message ... On 02/01/2013 10:26, D.M. Procida wrote: I've noticed that a couple of bits of my car seem to be undergoing some kind of chemical change. The volume control on the radio and the door of the glove box are slightly tacky to the touch. Having seen what happens to the drive belts of film projectors and the seals of old cameras when the rubber perishes, I'd like to stop this process before it goes any further. What's actually going on, and what might help retard it? You can't do much to slow it down as environmental as factors like UV and ozone are mainly responsible for causing the rubbery plastic to depolymerise. My Psion3 failed exactly the same way - ultimately the plastic turned into black goo which dripped off like potty putty. Best bet is to apply something inert and powdery to soak up the tackiness or overcoat it with something that isn't tacky at all. I have never found a satisfactory solution to the demise of such plastics. Replacing the failing parts with new ones might be the best bet. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On 02/01/2013 17:04, Brian Gaff wrote:
Dunno but I've had it happen to tape recorder belts, white cane handles and a pressure roller in a tape deck, in the latter case the eventual result was one morning a pile of goo in the machine and just the metal centre on the spindle. Brian Latest is the grippy bit of my electric toothbrush. Not sure how old it is but the rechargeable battery only now lasts hours intead of days |
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In message , Brian Gaff
writes Dunno but I've had it happen to tape recorder belts, white cane handles and a pressure roller in a tape deck, in the latter case the eventual result was one morning a pile of goo in the machine and just the metal centre on the spindle. Same thing happened to the seed metering/dispensers on a range of agricultural seed drills:-( They seemed to last about 10 years before metamorphosing to a pile of mush:-( Set for my drill was about £400! -- Tim Lamb |
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:04:47 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:
Dunno but I've had it happen to tape recorder belts, white cane handles and a pressure roller in a tape deck, in the latter case the eventual result was one morning a pile of goo in the machine and just the metal centre on the spindle. BTDT, many a time: http://www.patooie.com/temp/roller.jpg I don't think there's a known cure for it, and nor is it necessarily down to environmental conditions (such as humidity or exposure to UV). Best advice I've got for the OP is to start searching for replacement parts from a donor vehicle. cheers Jules |
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Jules Richardson wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:04:47 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote: Dunno but I've had it happen to tape recorder belts, white cane handles and a pressure roller in a tape deck, in the latter case the eventual result was one morning a pile of goo in the machine and just the metal centre on the spindle. BTDT, many a time: http://www.patooie.com/temp/roller.jpg I don't think there's a known cure for it, and nor is it necessarily down to environmental conditions (such as humidity or exposure to UV). Best advice I've got for the OP is to start searching for replacement parts from a donor vehicle. I think that we're paying for the recent mania for soft-touch plastics all over the place. Daniele -- Kraftwerk Consolation Night 20.00 1st March 2013 Chapter Arts Centre Cardiff Eight different live ensembles playing the songs of Kraftwerk to ease the disappointment of being unable to get tickets to see them in London |
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In message , Brian Gaff
writes I actually had a pair of shoes do this. the soles were supposed to be made of a special advanced composite for better grip.. Well I guess if its sticky they were right about hat! Likewise. Early '70's pair of suede *brothel creepers*. I had been down on the shop floor doing some tests for residual magnetism in a bearing component (magnetic chuck followed by tunnel de-magnetiser) when I was called to give a report to assembled managers in the conference room. After the meeting my boss invited me to go and clean up the floor where I had been sitting! Lubricating oil had destroyed the soles of my shoes. Around that time, it was discovered that the air line oil used to lubricate pneumatic cylinders interfered with the piston seals which all had to be changed to a *high nitrile* version. Rather makes you wonder what the oil did to your lungs! -- Tim Lamb |
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