.. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and folds
back to secure.

What are they called? Are they still legal? Can you still buy them?

ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on
difficult surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one side.

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Lose (rhymes with fuse) is a verb, the opposite of find. Loose (rhymes
with juice) is an adjective, the opposite of tight.

On Thursday, August 9, 2012 3:34:11 PM UTC+1, Pete Shew wrote:
.. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and folds
back to secure.

What are they called? Are they still legal? Can you still buy them?
ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on
difficult surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one side.

Memory says they were called buckle clips - there's someone on eBay selling them but although googling shows there are people who claim to make them I've not seen them on sale for quite some time. I guess the extra time taken to do up the buckle made them a non-preferred method.

On Aug 9, 3:34*pm, Pete Shew wrote:
* .. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and folds
back to secure.

What are they called? Are they still legal? Can you still buy them?

ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on
difficult surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one side.

They're uninsulated, so no longer compliant for mains use, but afaik
still allowed for lower voltage.

I've not seen them in decades, no idea where to get them.


NT

On 09/08/2012 16:27, NT wrote:
On Aug 9, 3:34 pm, Pete Shew wrote:
.. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and folds
back to secure.

What are they called? Are they still legal? Can you still buy them?

ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on
difficult surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one side.

They're uninsulated, so no longer compliant for mains use, but afaik
still allowed for lower voltage.

I've not seen them in decades, no idea where to get them.


NT

Thanks both. Buckle was the keyword, but only adhesive versions seem to
be readily available. Pity about the non compliance as they can be much
neater when you "have" to surface mount. (I;m not sure how a finger in
contact with a metal strap in contact with T&E is worse than just a
finger in contact with the T&E.

I suppose it could be made to comply if the straps were all connected
with a suitable CPC :-)

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Lose (rhymes with fuse) is a verb, the opposite of find. Loose (rhymes
with juice) is an adjective, the opposite of tight.

Pete Shew wrote:

ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on difficult
surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one side.

If you're putting the latter clips into brick/masonry, there are small grey
plastic plugs available which help enormously. These look like miniature
test-tubes in shape, maybe 1/2" long and are usually sold in boxes from the
same displays as the assorted cable clips. You fit them to the masonry by
drilling a narrow hole of sufficient depth then tapping in the plug. The
plug has a fine central hole which then takes the cable-clip's nail and
holds it securely.

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Pete Shew wrote:

ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on difficult
surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one side.

If you're putting the latter clips into brick/masonry, there are small grey
plastic plugs available which help enormously. These look like miniature
test-tubes in shape, maybe 1/2" long and are usually sold in boxes from the
same displays as the assorted cable clips. You fit them to the masonry by
drilling a narrow hole of sufficient depth then tapping in the plug. The
plug has a fine central hole which then takes the cable-clip's nail and
holds it securely.

Aka "pin plugs" eg Tower:

http://www.cef.co.uk/catalogue/categ...ammerfix-range

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On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:27:06 -0700 (PDT), NT
wrote:

On Aug 9, 3:34*pm, Pete Shew wrote:
* .. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and folds
back to secure.

What are they called?

Buckle clips.

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:34:11 +0100, Pete Shew
wrote:

.. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and folds
back to secure.

What are they called? Are they still legal? Can you still buy them?

ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on
difficult surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one side.


http://www.saren.co.uk/cabletiesclips.htm

Pete Shew wrote:
.. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and
folds back to secure.

What are they called? Are they still legal? Can you still buy them?

http://www.saren.co.uk/cabletiesclips.htm

suggests you can still buy them. I know of no reason why they should be
illegal.

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On 09/08/2012 16:27, NT wrote:
On Aug 9, 3:34 pm, Pete Shew wrote:
.. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and folds
back to secure.

What are they called? Are they still legal? Can you still buy them?

ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on
difficult surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one side.

They're uninsulated, so no longer compliant for mains use, but afaik
still allowed for lower voltage.

I can't at the moment think of any specific regulation that would
prevent their use...


I've not seen them in decades, no idea where to get them.

Can't say I liked them much anyway.


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On 09/08/2012 22:25, John Rumm wrote:
On 09/08/2012 16:27, NT wrote:
On Aug 9, 3:34 pm, Pete Shew wrote:
.. the sort that had a nail or screw through the strap with a slot at
one end. the other end goes round the cable, through the slot and folds
back to secure.

What are they called? Are they still legal? Can you still buy them?

ISTM that, especially the screw ones, are much more forgiving on
difficult surfaces than the plastic ones with an obo(?) nail on one
side.

They're uninsulated, so no longer compliant for mains use, but afaik
still allowed for lower voltage.

I can't at the moment think of any specific regulation that would
prevent their use...


I've not seen them in decades, no idea where to get them.

Can't say I liked them much anyway.

I can see why someone getting paid for a job doesn't like them as they
must take quite a bit longer to install, but they look a lot neater to
me, so for DIY they seem to be a good choice in exposed areas.

--
Pete
Lose (rhymes with fuse) is a verb, the opposite of find. Loose (rhymes
with juice) is an adjective, the opposite of tight.