We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss it.
It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door - exactly
where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see people
coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because for some
reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for. I've just had
a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be what they must
teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss it.
It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door - exactly
where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see people
coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because for some
reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for. I've just had
a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be what they must
teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

most people now call you on your mobile to say they are outside your door
rather than ring the bell and maybe disturb you.

I don't understand ............

--

MarkBR

Oh I'm glad you posted this. I get this as well. In fact my bell has to be
pushed quite hard but not excessively so, so not only do I get the double
glazed knock but also the wimpy push brigade as well. I explained that my
bell push is perfectly normal, its old and hence needs mor than a gnats wing
to press it though.
I have a door phone as well and this seems to confuse them when my
disembodied voice appears on a little speaker box. Where have these peaople
been broaght up?

Brian

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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss it.
It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door - exactly
where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see people
coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because for some
reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for. I've just had
a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be what they must
teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

On Monday, July 2, 2012 10:28:15 AM UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Oh I'm glad you posted this. I get this as well. In fact my bell has to be
pushed quite hard but not excessively so, so not only do I get the double
glazed knock but also the wimpy push brigade as well. I explained that my
bell push is perfectly normal, its old and hence needs mor than a gnats wing
to press it though.
I have a door phone as well and this seems to confuse them when my
disembodied voice appears on a little speaker box. Where have these peaople
been broaght up?

Dragged up, maybe put a note next to it saying "DO NOT Push Hard" might work ;-)
Years ago I used to hang importent message upside down on doors and windows or make really bad spelling mistakes and them someone would come up and say you've put it up the wrong way of spelt it wrongly so I asked them what was wrong and then I'd say well at least you read it.
A notice which says please close the door behind you seems to work better upside down or perhaps that's just with students ;-)


Brian

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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss it.
It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door - exactly
where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see people
coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because for some
reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for. I've just had
a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be what they must
teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
Jethro_uk wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show him that
yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button. They
never do, it's a disease.
--
Davey.

On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show him that
yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button. They
never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't heard. I've
rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to answer. Now I ring the
bell & also use the knocker/bang on the door.



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show him that
yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button. They
never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't heard. I've
rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to answer. Now I ring the
bell & also use the knocker/bang on the door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses that
can be seem?

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 15:14:44 +0100
The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can
miss it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the
door - exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there,
because for some reason very few people seem to know what a
doorbell is for. I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the
glass which seems to be what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show him
that yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button.
They never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't heard.
I've rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to answer. Now I
ring the bell & also use the knocker/bang on the door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses
that can be seem?


Our area has names instead of numbers, but the comment is still valid.
Last winter, I walked past a courier driver trying to find a house, but
it was after dark, and not all names could be seen. He eventually found
where to make his delivery. The next day, in daylight, I saw that the
house in question has a dark wooden sign, with the house name engraved
into that, and it hangs in front of the porch light.
Duh!
--
Davey.

On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:54:28 +0100, Davey
wrote:

Our area has names instead of numbers, but the comment is still valid.
Last winter, I walked past a courier driver trying to find a house, but
it was after dark, and not all names could be seen. He eventually found
where to make his delivery. The next day, in daylight, I saw that the
house in question has a dark wooden sign, with the house name engraved
into that, and it hangs in front of the porch light.
Duh!

Any experienced courier has a torch for exactly that.

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
news
On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show him that
yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button. They
never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't heard. I've
rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to answer. Now I ring the
bell & also use the knocker/bang on the door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses that can
be seem?

Yeah, it's a hell of a problem with garage/yard sales and for pizza delivery
apes.

A decent GPS helps heaps now tho.

On 02/07/2012 15:14, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show him that
yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button. They
never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't heard. I've
rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to answer. Now I ring the
bell & also use the knocker/bang on the door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses that
can be seem?


Mine is carefully painted on the opal cover of a light next to my front
gate. It is probably the only number in our road that can be read after
dark.

Colin Bignell

Huge wrote:
On 2012-07-02, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you
can miss it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side
of the door - exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can
see people coming up the path. That way, I know they are
there, because for some reason very few people seem to know
what a doorbell is for. I've just had a guy pathetically
tapping the glass which seems to be what they must teach
nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show
him that yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes
upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button.
They never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't
heard. I've rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to
answer. Now I ring the bell & also use the knocker/bang on the
door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses
that can be seem?

That would be a Nanny State law I would support. Every premises has to
have a number that can be seen from the street.

(Although I'd struggle; My house doesn't have a number and the nearest
public road is a 1/4 mile away.)

I believe it is already a law. But I cannot find a reference to it ATM.
(maybe Robin can help on this one)

Of course it's dead easy to find the numbers on a crappy housing estate.
They gloss paint the numbers on their walls.

--
Adam

On 02/07/2012 17:51, ARWadsworth wrote:
Huge wrote:
On 2012-07-02, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you
can miss it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side
of the door - exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can
see people coming up the path. That way, I know they are
there, because for some reason very few people seem to know
what a doorbell is for. I've just had a guy pathetically
tapping the glass which seems to be what they must teach
nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show
him that yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes
upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button.
They never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't
heard. I've rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to
answer. Now I ring the bell & also use the knocker/bang on the
door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses
that can be seem?

That would be a Nanny State law I would support. Every premises has to
have a number that can be seen from the street.

(Although I'd struggle; My house doesn't have a number and the nearest
public road is a 1/4 mile away.)

I believe it is already a law. But I cannot find a reference to it ATM.
(maybe Robin can help on this one)

I don't think its a law, however they were suggesting making it so a few
years ago.

Of course it's dead easy to find the numbers on a crappy housing estate.
They gloss paint the numbers on their walls.

Nah, it's on the bins kept at the front of the house!

SteveW

On 02/07/2012 17:51, ARWadsworth wrote:
Huge wrote:
On 2012-07-02, The Medway wrote:
On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you
can miss it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side
of the door - exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can
see people coming up the path. That way, I know they are
there, because for some reason very few people seem to know
what a doorbell is for. I've just had a guy pathetically
tapping the glass which seems to be what they must teach
nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show
him that yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes
upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button.
They never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't
heard. I've rung many& waited like a lemon for someone to
answer. Now I ring the bell& also use the knocker/bang on the
door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses
that can be seem?

That would be a Nanny State law I would support. Every premises has to
have a number that can be seen from the street.

(Although I'd struggle; My house doesn't have a number and the nearest
public road is a 1/4 mile away.)

I believe it is already a law. But I cannot find a reference to it ATM.
(maybe Robin can help on this one)

Of course it's dead easy to find the numbers on a crappy housing estate.
They gloss paint the numbers on their walls.

That's so the take away delivery man can get there before the pizza goes
cold :-)

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 2 Jul 2012 16:11:30 GMT, Huge wrote:

(Although I'd struggle; My house doesn't have a number and the nearest
public road is a 1/4 mile away.)

Niether do we and the road doesn't have an offical name. It does have
number U something or other.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 03/07/2012 07:59, Huge wrote:
On 2012-07-02, Dave wrote:
On 2 Jul 2012 16:11:30 GMT, Huge wrote:

(Although I'd struggle; My house doesn't have a number and the nearest
public road is a 1/4 mile away.)

Niether do we and the road doesn't have an offical name.

The road my drive leads to has different names at either end, and we don't
know where it changes. After problems with the Fire Brigade not being
able to find us (someone torched a (presumably) stolen car at the end
of our drive) we asked about getting some road signs but the council
are still debating what to do. My wife suggested putting up a sign at
one end saying "Whatsit Road leading to Thingummy Lane" and at the
other end "Thungummy Lane leading to Whatsit Road". This is apparently
too clever for the council.

Still, at least the FB know how to find us now.


One place I lived in the early 1970s had missing road names. With my
father, I made our own in the style of cast iron road names, using
hardboard, from which we made GRP moulds, from which we made the name
plates, using self coloured GRP; black for the letters and surrounds and
white for the background. When I passed that way a year or so ago, they
were still there.

Colin Bignell

On Monday, July 2, 2012 5:11:30 PM UTC+1, Huge wrote:
On 2012-07-02, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show him that
yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button. They
never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't heard. I've
rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to answer. Now I ring the
bell & also use the knocker/bang on the door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses that
can be seem?

That would be a Nanny State law I would support. Every premises has to
have a number that can be seen from the street.

I agree with that and I'd like the same done for roads too. Far too often I find myself trying to find somewhere in London and even teh road name can;t be found until yuo walk to the very end anyway. I asl think all shops should have numbers as again I've walked down a major road not knowing which direction to walk in because so few shops have numbers.


(Although I'd struggle; My house doesn't have a number and the nearest
public road is a 1/4 mile away.)


--
Today is Pungenday, the 37th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3178
"If there is anyone here who I have not insulted, I beg their
pardon." Johannes Brahms (1833-97).

On 03/07/2012 13:48, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2012 5:11:30 PM UTC+1, Huge wrote:
On 2012-07-02, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 15:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 02/07/2012 10:29, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:10 GMT
wrote:

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

He will undoubtedly say "They never work". And you will show him that
yours does, and he will ignore the next one he comes upon.
So sad. Mine works, too, if anybody bothers to push the button. They
never do, it's a disease.

You would be surprised how many either don't work or aren't heard. I've
rung many & waited like a lemon for someone to answer. Now I ring the
bell & also use the knocker/bang on the door.



Oh. And why don't people ever put piggin numbers on their houses that
can be seem?

That would be a Nanny State law I would support. Every premises has to
have a number that can be seen from the street.

I agree with that and I'd like the same done for roads too. Far too often I find myself trying to find somewhere in London and even teh road name can;t be found until yuo walk to the very end anyway. I asl think all shops should have numbers as again I've walked down a major road not knowing which direction to walk in because so few shops have numbers.

Equally I wish all companies, shops, venues, etc. would put their number
on their communications. My wife was meeting old workmates at a pub the
only details we could get from directories and webpages were pub name,
road and phonenumber. I phoned and asked them which number the pub was
and they seemed very suprised and didn't know, so they had to ask
someone else - I needed to know as our approach would have been to the
middle of the road, it's at least four miles long and I didn't want to
be driving up and down looking for it.

SteveW

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss it.
It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door - exactly
where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see people
coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because for some
reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for. I've just had
a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be what they must
teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great with
those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC)
Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great
with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.
--
Davey.

On 02/07/2012 11:25, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC)
Gordon wrote:

In ,
wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great
with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.

It probably reads "PULL" on the knob thats why they wil get confused.
:-) you need to change the wording to text speak!

And what about knockers?



Brian

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Blind user, so no pictures please!
"Davey" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC)
Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great
with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.
--
Davey.

In article ,
Davey wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC)
Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great
with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.

Actually, the biggest problem is that people outside can't hear the
doorbell inside (2 heavy old doors in the way), so they end up knocking
too. Will rememdy that one day - fairly easy with those wireless units
now..

Gordon

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:21:42 +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article , Davey
wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Gordon Henderson
wrote:

In article , Jethro_uk
wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great
with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.

Actually, the biggest problem is that people outside can't hear the
doorbell inside (2 heavy old doors in the way), so they end up knocking
too. Will rememdy that one day - fairly easy with those wireless units
now..

Gordon

I have a sounder in the porch. They would know this if they tried USING
THE DOORBELL ....

"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:21:42 +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article , Davey
wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Gordon Henderson
wrote:

In article , Jethro_uk
wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great
with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.

Actually, the biggest problem is that people outside can't hear the
doorbell inside (2 heavy old doors in the way), so they end up knocking
too. Will rememdy that one day - fairly easy with those wireless units
now..

Gordon

I have a sounder in the porch. They would know this if they tried USING
THE DOORBELL ....

But its not surprising that they dont try that at every door
on the off chance that a few like you have done that.

On 02/07/2012 11:25, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC)
Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss
it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door -
exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because
for some reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for.
I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be
what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great
with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.

And what would they make of the old style mechanical turn ones?

SteveW

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 20:01:59 +0100
SteveW wrote:

On 02/07/2012 11:25, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC)
Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can
miss it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the
door - exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there,
because for some reason very few people seem to know what a
doorbell is for. I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the
glass which seems to be what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the
door. (Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but
works great with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to
be pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.

And what would they make of the old style mechanical turn ones?

SteveW

Absolutely nothing, they wouldn't have a clue what they were for.
Again, so sad.
--
Davey.

On 02/07/2012 22:50, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 20:01:59 +0100
SteveW wrote:

On 02/07/2012 11:25, Davey wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC)
Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can
miss it. It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the
door - exactly where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see
people coming up the path. That way, I know they are there,
because for some reason very few people seem to know what a
doorbell is for. I've just had a guy pathetically tapping the
glass which seems to be what they must teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.
We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the
door. (Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but
works great with those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to
be pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon
Now you're really going to confuse them! Sounds nice, too.
And what would they make of the old style mechanical turn ones?

SteveW
Absolutely nothing, they wouldn't have a clue what they were for.
Again, so sad.


A true fact for you. 1 person in 32 doors knocked will happily have an
appointment for a DG sales visit.
1 in 3 appointments will buy.
That is why they do door to door.

It is not important which DG company is involved. That is an industry fact.

The favourite saying from a punter ' I dont delieve in credit'

As he sits in a House he is paying for monthly .

My reply to that was 'I can assure you Credit is real'.

I don't do it any more. But it was fun, and genuinely rewarding. I
worked for a proper company that did what they said they would.

The obvious answer to this is touch technology.
Two versions. 1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen sensor
and then the taps operate the door bell.
2. The handle is designed like those handles on digital radios that when you
touch them something happens, in this case the doorbell.

I have noticed that on porches most callers try the door.
Brian

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From the sofa of Brian Gaff -

Blind user, so no pictures please!
"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss it.
It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door - exactly
where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see people
coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because for some
reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for. I've just had
a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be what they must
teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great with
those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

Gordon

On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:12:04 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen sensor
and then the taps operate the door bell.

I wonder if a burglar alarm window sensor(*) could be used to detect such
rapping and sound a remote bell or WHY?

(*) Vibration rather than break glass.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 02/07/2012 13:52, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:12:04 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen sensor
and then the taps operate the door bell.
I wonder if a burglar alarm window sensor(*) could be used to detect such
rapping and sound a remote bell or WHY?

(*) Vibration rather than break glass.

THe answer to this is simple. Most door bell that don't work look like
they should work. therefore there is no way of telling if a bell is or
is not working.

To press and wait is fine if the bell works but useless if it is not
working.

So press and knock will normally get a result but some tired / fed up
people just knock because that always makes a sound.

If you are expecting to knock 250 doors and the time waiting becomes
important. At 30 seconds more each that equals 125 minuets wasted or 2
hours on your working day.

I did door knocking for a dg company so I know what it is like. also how
many people block the house door with cars etc.

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:38:10 +0100, Gary wrote:

On 02/07/2012 13:52, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:12:04 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen sensor and then
the taps operate the door bell.
I wonder if a burglar alarm window sensor(*) could be used to detect
such rapping and sound a remote bell or WHY?

(*) Vibration rather than break glass.

THe answer to this is simple. Most door bell that don't work look like
they should work. therefore there is no way of telling if a bell is or
is not working.

To press and wait is fine if the bell works but useless if it is not
working.

So press and knock will normally get a result but some tired / fed up
people just knock because that always makes a sound.

If you are expecting to knock 250 doors and the time waiting becomes
important. At 30 seconds more each that equals 125 minuets wasted or 2
hours on your working day.

I did door knocking for a dg company so I know what it is like. also how
many people block the house door with cars etc.

Your theory sounds fine, but doesn't explain the increasing majority of
callers who *only* knock. Which won't be heard in the garden.

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:38:10 +0100, Gary wrote:

THe answer to this is simple. Most door bell that don't work look like
they should work. therefore there is no way of telling if a bell is or
is not working.

Anybody who installs a doorbell that can't be heard to be working from
the door needs their head examining.

TBH if DG or other salesmen came round here I'd want a doorbell that
selectively didn't work.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen
sensor and then the taps operate the door bell.

I wonder if a burglar alarm window sensor(*) could be used
to detect such rapping and sound a remote bell or WHY?

Yep, but it makes more sense to use an external PIR instead
because that will go off even if they knock on the wood of
the door, or the door has no glass at all.

(*) Vibration rather than break glass.

They arent as common. external PIRs are a lot more common.

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:05:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Dave Liquorice wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen
sensor and then the taps operate the door bell.

I wonder if a burglar alarm window sensor(*) could be used
to detect such rapping and sound a remote bell or WHY?

Yep, but it makes more sense to use an external PIR instead
because that will go off even if they knock on the wood of
the door, or the door has no glass at all.

And every time a cat passes the door.

(*) Vibration rather than break glass.

They arent as common. external PIRs are a lot more common.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

On 02/07/2012 13:52, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:12:04 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen sensor
and then the taps operate the door bell.

I wonder if a burglar alarm window sensor(*) could be used to detect such
rapping and sound a remote bell or WHY?

As anyone I want to visit me has a key, I favour WHY, in the form of a
sound effect such a large dog barking or door bell followed by a baby
crying.

Colin Bignell

Brian Gaff wrote

The obvious answer to this is touch technology.

Nope.

Two versions. 1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen sensor
and then the taps operate the door bell.

Lot easier said than done, particularly with the 8'x8' patio
door that’s my front door.

2. The handle is designed like those handles on digital radios that when
you touch them something happens, in this case the doorbell.

Still doesn’t help when the ape just knocks on the solid
part of the door, when there is no glass in the door.

Makes a lot more sense to just use an external PIR
instead and then they don’t even have to knock at all.

Better if the bell isnt audible from outside the door tho,
otherwise the local brats can find it amusing to play with.

I have noticed that on porches most callers try the door.

I doubt it.

Gordon Henderson wrote
Jethro_uk wrote

We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss it.
It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door - exactly
where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see people
coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because for some
reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for. I've just had
a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be what they must
teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

We have a Georgian style "pull" knob right in the middle of the door.
(Cast in brass from the original designs alledgedly, but works great with
those wireless senders!)

A lot of people don't realise it's a door bell and that it has to be
pulled...

Not surprising, but ...

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

Brian Gaff wrote

The obvious answer to this is touch technology.

Nope.

Two versions. 1: The glass on the door is set up as a touch screen
sensor and then the taps operate the door bell.

Lot easier said than done, particularly with the 8'x8' patio
door thats my front door.

Are you a fat ******* then?

Nope, thats what all the doors are, 13 of them in fact,
5 in the main room thats where the front door is.

Its passive solar, stupid.

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 22:56:32 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

Lot easier said than done, particularly with the 8'x8' patio
door that’s my front door.

Are you a fat ******* then?

It's a big pallet. The one that carried the corrugated tin his shack
is made from.

"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
We have a fully working doorbell. I really can see how you can miss it.
It's about 4'6" off the ground on the lock side of the door - exactly
where you would expect to find it.

Luckily, I work in a front room, facing the street, so I can see people
coming up the path. That way, I know they are there, because for some
reason very few people seem to know what a doorbell is for. I've just had
a guy pathetically tapping the glass which seems to be what they must
teach nowadays.

I must ask the next numpty why they didn't use the doorbell.

Many of the delivery apes dont because they see so many that dont work.