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sticky mortar ?
Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ?
I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins |
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Jim Hawkins wrote:
Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins What's GRP? And would an epoxy resis (eg araldite) work? -- Tim Watts |
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Tim Watts wrote:
Jim Hawkins wrote: Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins What's GRP? Glass-Reinforced Plastic. The stuff yachts and cruisers - and even minehunters - are made of. And would an epoxy resin (eg araldite) work? Only suitable for very small jobs. |
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Jim Hawkins wrote:
Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Try epoxy mortar. Its expensive, but it sticks like **** and looks like mortar. You wont get cement to stick well to GRP. Jim Hawkins |
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What's GRP? Glass reinforced plastic = fibreglass |
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"Jim Hawkins" writes: Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? The following works when you want to bond mortar onto GRP. Make sure the GRP surface is clean. Mix up some resin (the sort normally used with glass matting for car body repairs). Paint this onto the GRP and sprinkle dry sharp sand onto it, so that the resin sets with the sharp sand partly embedded into it, and partly exposed. Leave the resin to fully set. (If you buy a GRP valley gutter, it comes with these sand strips already down the sides, ready for the pointing mortar.) Mortar will stick to the sand strips, but you should use an additional bonding agent to improve the bond. This is a slurry of pure cement mixed with PVA, painted onto the sand strip. The mortar is then applied whilst the slurry is still tacky. For outside use, you need to use waterproof PVA (EVA) or better still, SBR. You can also use a small amount of this in the mortar mix to improve the tensile strength of the mortar (which is basically what tile cement is), or use tile cement. You will need to modify this technique to allow for doing it all upside down, i.e. with the GPR on the top, rather than the bottom. Also, can't help wondering if just applying the mortar/render without bothering with the GRP at all would solve the problem? -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On 06/11/2011 10:46, Jim Hawkins wrote:
Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Pretty sure one of the new MS polymer grab adhesives would do the job. Sticks Like Sh*t for example. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 06/11/2011 10:46, Jim Hawkins wrote:
Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins I'd be inclined to use Stixall http://www.everbuild.co.uk/products.php?q=stixall -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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Tim Watts wrote: Jim Hawkins wrote: Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins What's GRP? Glass-Reinforced Plastic. The stuff yachts and cruisers - and even minehunters - are made of. Yes - I didn't make the connection out of contexts I personally associate fiberglass with... And would an epoxy resin (eg araldite) work? Only suitable for very small jobs. That's another thing - how big are these treads? Are they just strips and how many - in which case, I might be looking at buying a more industrial container of araldite - or doing some tests with car body filler. -- Tim Watts |
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On Nov 6, 10:46*am, "Jim Hawkins" wrote:
Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins I'm struggling to see what the reason to do that might be. If you want nonstick, thats reaily achieved with an unsmoothed sand surface. Eg brush on cement slurry or varnish and sprinkle on sand. NT |
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Glass reinforced plastic when I last looked, but I guess it could be
something else. Seems an odd choice for steps. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Jim Hawkins wrote: Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins What's GRP? And would an epoxy resis (eg araldite) work? -- Tim Watts |
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On 06/11/2011 17:55, NT wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:46 am, "Jim wrote: Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins I'm struggling to see what the reason to do that might be. If you want nonstick, thats reaily achieved with an unsmoothed sand surface. Eg brush on cement slurry or varnish and sprinkle on sand. NT I assume you meant non-slip, not non-stick! D |
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On Nov 7, 9:41*am, David Hearn wrote:
On 06/11/2011 17:55, NT wrote: On Nov 6, 10:46 am, "Jim *wrote: Is there a cement mortar mix that will stick to GRP ? I need to cover the outside steps leading up to my back door with GRP anti-slip treads, but don't know the best way to fix them. I'd prefer not to use screw fixing. Alternatively, I've wondered if the sort of adhesive used to stick flooring tiles would be suitable. Anyone been there, done that ? Jim Hawkins I'm struggling to see what the reason to do that might be. If you want nonstick, thats reaily achieved with an unsmoothed sand surface. Eg brush on cement slurry or varnish and sprinkle on sand. NT I assume you meant non-slip, not non-stick! D oops NT |
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