I am about to embark on a fairly major redecorate of hall/stairs/
landing and as part of this am planning to board over the landing with
plywood. I've done this in other rooms and it's created a much better
base for carpets given the state of the floorboards.

The problem I foresee is how to deal with where the board meets the
edge of the landing at the top of the stairs. There is a roughly semi-
circular stair nose here, like on all of the stairs. So I am going to
have a step of 6mm or so which I am anticipating will be obvious.

Can anyone think of a way to deal with this that is fairly
straightforward. I'm thinking if I could get some material of about
the same thickness as the plywood that I can mould to the shape of the
nose - kind of wrap it around the nose, I can eliminate the step. But
I am not sure what would be suitable.

Bob

On Aug 19, 1:09*am, Bob wrote:
I am about to embark on a fairly major redecorate of hall/stairs/
landing and as part of this am planning to board over the landing with
plywood. *I've done this in other rooms and it's created a much better
base for carpets given the state of the floorboards.

The problem I foresee is how to deal with where the board meets the
edge of the landing at the top of the stairs. *There is a roughly semi-
circular stair nose here, like on all of the stairs. *So I am going to
have a step of 6mm or so which I am anticipating will be obvious.

Can anyone think of a way to deal with this that is fairly
straightforward. *I'm thinking if I could get some material of about
the same thickness as the plywood that I can mould to the shape of the
nose - kind of wrap it around the nose, I can eliminate the step. *But
I am not sure what would be suitable.

Bob

Even small variations in step heights are a safety problem. Best go
with 3mm hardboard, and if that seems too thin, replace or turn over
any badly damaged boards.


NT

On 19 Aug, 01:09, Bob wrote:
I am about to embark on a fairly major redecorate of hall/stairs/
landing and as part of this am planning to board over the landing with
plywood. *I've done this in other rooms and it's created a much better
base for carpets given the state of the floorboards.

The problem I foresee is how to deal with where the board meets the
edge of the landing at the top of the stairs. *There is a roughly semi-
circular stair nose here, like on all of the stairs. *So I am going to
have a step of 6mm or so which I am anticipating will be obvious.

Can anyone think of a way to deal with this that is fairly
straightforward. *I'm thinking if I could get some material of about
the same thickness as the plywood that I can mould to the shape of the
nose - kind of wrap it around the nose, I can eliminate the step. *But
I am not sure what would be suitable.

Bob

There is virtually guaranteed to be wiring under a landing. If you put
down ply, it makes access to it very difficult.

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:09:29 -0700 (PDT), Bob wrote:
I am about to embark on a fairly major redecorate of hall/stairs/
landing and as part of this am planning to board over the landing with
plywood. I've done this in other rooms and it's created a much better
base for carpets given the state of the floorboards.

The problem I foresee is how to deal with where the board meets the
edge of the landing at the top of the stairs. There is a roughly semi-
circular stair nose here, like on all of the stairs. So I am going to
have a step of 6mm or so which I am anticipating will be obvious.

Can anyone think of a way to deal with this that is fairly
straightforward. I'm thinking if I could get some material of about
the same thickness as the plywood that I can mould to the shape of the
nose - kind of wrap it around the nose, I can eliminate the step. But
I am not sure what would be suitable.

Bob

Could you sand the edge that will meet the stairs into a taper?
It might end a little bit before the stair starts but so long as
the carpet is a reasonable weight, that should hold it in place.
If it doesn't, a spot of glue (!) to stick the board to the top
stair should do the trick.


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Thanks for the replies so far. Tabby made a good point about the
variation in step height, which was enough to worry me.

Harry's point about wiring under the landing floor is understood but
on the rare occasions that I have had to access under the floor in
other rooms, I haven't found it to be especially onerous to unscrew
the ply. If anything the landing is easier as there tends to be less
furniture to get out of the way and it's smaller than any of the
rooms. However, if I go for Tabby's suggestion of using hardboard, as
this is usually fixed with nails (panel pins) as I understand, it
makes accessibility and re-instatement a bit more difficult.

Having done a bit more research I have a further suggestion. It seems
to be possible to get nosing covers in a variety of materials,
thicknesses and profiles. It occurs to me that if I could get
something suitable with a 6mm depth, I could affix these to all stairs
and put plywood on the treads as well as the landing. This keeps a
consistent rise for all stairs. Obviously this is a lot more work but
if I am prepared to do it, can anyone see any problems?

Thanks,

Bob

Bob wrote:

Thanks for the replies so far. Tabby made a good point about the
variation in step height, which was enough to worry me.

Having done a bit more research I have a further suggestion. It seems
to be possible to get nosing covers in a variety of materials,
thicknesses and profiles. It occurs to me that if I could get
something suitable with a 6mm depth, I could affix these to all stairs
and put plywood on the treads as well as the landing. This keeps a
consistent rise for all stairs. Obviously this is a lot more work but
if I am prepared to do it, can anyone see any problems?

I may have misunderstood, but doesn't your proposal simply move
the problem large step to the bottom of the flight, or do you
also intend to cover the hall floor?

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

On 5 Sep, 07:34, Chris J Dixon wrote:

I may have misunderstood, but doesn't your proposal simply move
the problem large step to the bottom of the flight, or do you
also intend to cover the hall floor?


The original problem as pointed out to me was a potential safety issue
with a change in riser height on the top step. Your point did occur
to me but it seemed to me that this is less of an issue on the bottom
step. Furthermore, the plan is to have a hardwood floor in the hall
and the carpet the stairs and landing so there was going to be a
difference anyway. The thing I am not sure about is in what direction
that difference would be. How does the thickness of the hardwood
flooring over whatever underlay may or may not be needed compare with
carpet plus underlay? If thicker then I can afford a slightly higher
first stair. If thinner then I maybe I would need to think again.

In any case, the plan I proposed is now looking less practical anyway.
When I actually went and looked at the stairs I noticed that the
bottom stair is what I believe is called a Bullnose Step (see
http://www.pearstairs.co.uk/pages/st...y/default.aspx for
an example). So the nose covers I had in mind wouldn't fit this
anyway.

Bob

On Sep 5, 12:16*am, Bob wrote:
Thanks for the replies so far. Tabby made a good point about the
variation in step height, which was enough to worry me.

Harry's point about wiring under the landing floor is understood but
on the rare occasions that I have had to access under the floor in
other rooms, I haven't found it to be especially onerous to unscrew
the ply. *If anything the landing is easier as there tends to be less
furniture to get out of the way and it's smaller than any of the
rooms. *However, if I go for Tabby's suggestion of using hardboard, as
this is usually fixed with nails (panel pins) as I understand, it
makes accessibility and re-instatement a bit more difficult.

Having done a bit more research I have a further suggestion. *It seems
to be possible to get nosing covers in a variety of materials,
thicknesses and profiles. *It occurs to me that if I could get
something suitable with a 6mm depth, I could affix these to all stairs
and put plywood on the treads as well as the landing. *This keeps a
consistent rise for all stairs. *Obviously this is a lot more work but
if I am prepared to do it, can anyone see any problems?

Thanks,

Bob


I'm NT, not Tabby, cuoldnt see how to correct the issue on google
groups.

If its just a small landing and youre carpeting it, does the hardboard
even need fixing down? Carpet and grip rods should hold it


NT

I'm NT, not Tabby, cuoldnt see how to correct the issue on google
groups.

If its just a smalllandingand youre carpeting it, does the hardboard
even need fixing down? Carpet and grip rods should hold it

NT

Yes I think you are probably right. This is starting to look like the
most practical option.

Bob