What amusing phone call might be made to a not very nice bloke and his not
very nice pal, who are re-advertising a car for sale that actually looks
reasonably good, supposedly a lady owner, and only a small milage on it; but
in reality is a worn out piece of rubbish. And they know this full well.

It's easily gone right around the clock. Somebody is going to get really
stung by these dishonest people. So what might one (legally) say in a phone
call to give them a sleepless night and think twice before cheating someone?

On 3 Aug, 15:34, "Dug Wilder" wrote:
Complaint to local trading standards?

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:34:44 +0100, Dug Wilder wrote:

What amusing phone call might be made to a not very nice bloke and his
not very nice pal, who are re-advertising a car for sale that actually
looks reasonably good, supposedly a lady owner, and only a small milage
on it; but in reality is a worn out piece of rubbish. And they know this
full well.

It's easily gone right around the clock. Somebody is going to get really
stung by these dishonest people. So what might one (legally) say in a
phone call to give them a sleepless night and think twice before
cheating someone?

Private sale or trader?

Chris

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Remove prejudice to reply.

If you can get the V5 details etc, you can bring up the last 4-5 years
of MOT in terms of mileage, advisories, failures and so on. That way
you can a) justify your claims and b) make it clear what the real
condition is.

I recall the number of "LCD odometer resetting service companies" is
vastly greater than the actual number of failures would ever require
for the entire world since their introduction. You can check mileage
via many means, from inspection of pedals, seating, bodywork, inside
the sills, battery acid, slop in various components such as bushings
to engine mounts, windscreen wear. UK weather is pretty severe and a
high mileage car will have noticeable weak spots identifiable when
looking around the same model, ie, 40k genuine vs 90k clocked even if
motorway.

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:32:39 -0700, js.b1 wrote:

If you can get the V5 details etc, you can bring up the last 4-5 years
of MOT in terms of mileage, advisories, failures and so on. That way you
can a) justify your claims and b) make it clear what the real condition
is.

I recall the number of "LCD odometer resetting service companies" is
vastly greater than the actual number of failures would ever require for
the entire world since their introduction. You can check mileage via
many means, from inspection of pedals, seating, bodywork, inside the
sills, battery acid, slop in various components such as bushings to
engine mounts, windscreen wear. UK weather is pretty severe and a high
mileage car will have noticeable weak spots identifiable when looking
around the same model, ie, 40k genuine vs 90k clocked even if motorway.

I think the OP already knows the car is misrepresented; he wants to know
what he can do about it.

Chris

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Remove prejudice to reply.

Chris Whelan wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:32:39 -0700, js.b1 wrote:

If you can get the V5 details etc, you can bring up the last 4-5 years
of MOT in terms of mileage, advisories, failures and so on. That way you
can a) justify your claims and b) make it clear what the real condition
is.

I recall the number of "LCD odometer resetting service companies" is
vastly greater than the actual number of failures would ever require for
the entire world since their introduction. You can check mileage via
many means, from inspection of pedals, seating, bodywork, inside the
sills, battery acid, slop in various components such as bushings to
engine mounts, windscreen wear. UK weather is pretty severe and a high
mileage car will have noticeable weak spots identifiable when looking
around the same model, ie, 40k genuine vs 90k clocked even if motorway.

I think the OP already knows the car is misrepresented; he wants to know
what he can do about it.


Dont buy it?

Once bought, unless from someone big enough to sue, its a waste of time
trying.

Chris

On 3 Aug, 15:34, "Dug Wilder" wrote:
What amusing phone call might be made to a not very nice bloke and his not
very nice pal, who are re-advertising a car for sale that actually looks
reasonably good, supposedly a lady owner, and only a small milage on it; but
in reality is a worn out piece of rubbish. And they know this full well.

It's easily gone right around the clock. Somebody is going to get really
stung by these dishonest people. So what might one (legally) say in a phone
call to give them a sleepless night and think twice before cheating someone?

If documentation is dodgy, I think there's a DVLA hotline.

If it's grossly unsafe, talk to the police.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 08:32:39 -0700 (PDT), "js.b1"
wrote:

If you can get the V5 details etc, you can bring up the last 4-5 years
of MOT in terms of mileage, advisories, failures and so on. That way
you can a) justify your claims and b) make it clear what the real
condition is.

By "etc" I assume you mean MOT details?

On 3 Aug, 17:26, The Peeler wrote:
By "etc" I assume you mean MOT details?

Check what the website requires.
I think you need the V5 document & car registration number.

Then you can then bring up the MOT history which would be useful.

Eg, if the MOT history says 118,000miles and they have clocked it to
42,000miles then you can telephone and say "why does the MOT history
say 65,000 97,000 118,000 and the car is advertised as having
42,000miles. Then on to Trading Standards & Police - otherwise it is
one person's word against another, police want some admissable
evidence.

Did it for my own, sadly it does not go back far enough because I know
the mileage was tampered with and tyres changed after purchase. It was
purchased by a dying relative and I got landed with the bill, unable
to sell for anything but little cash value (and a shed load more
besides) and would have liked to have sued the main dealer. The main
dealer went bust anyway soon after. Just after recessions are very
very bad times to buy cars if you are not properly diligent or very
good times if you buy carefully. This is particularly true after easy-
credit took over, because a car listed at £4200 for 3yr old in the
depths of the recession became £6995 straight after - people just
financed the difference. Same on Ebay, a certain laptop was £399 for
years on end, collapsed to £250 in the recession, back to £399 the
year later re credit despite being a year older.

There will be some **** cars around at the moment, tread carefully. It
used to be Porsche where the bills were multiples of £250 for the 944
(as in 2-3x for routine work & repair) and the 911 were multiples of
£500 (as in 2-3x for routine work & repair). Now Common Rail Diesel
can easily land you in what used to be 911 ballpark. Audi servicing
costs are another case entirely, they stuffed themselves rotten create
glass aerofoil palaces and some rather expensive "that can happen to
some".

On Aug 3, 3:34*pm, "Dug Wilder" wrote:
What amusing phone call might be made to a not very nice bloke and his not
very nice pal, who are re-advertising a car for sale that actually looks
reasonably good, supposedly a lady owner, and only a small milage on it; but
in reality is a worn out piece of rubbish. And they know this full well.

It's easily gone right around the clock. Somebody is going to get really
stung by these dishonest people. So what might one (legally) say in a phone
call to give them a sleepless night and think twice before cheating someone?

usually such people have other cars and at least one is illegal.


NT

In message , Dug Wilder
writes
What amusing phone call might be made to a not very nice bloke and his not
very nice pal, who are re-advertising a car for sale that actually looks
reasonably good, supposedly a lady owner, and only a small milage on it; but
in reality is a worn out piece of rubbish. And they know this full well.

It's easily gone right around the clock. Somebody is going to get really
stung by these dishonest people. So what might one (legally) say in a phone
call to give them a sleepless night and think twice before cheating someone?


Paging Adam

Or ... ask in UKRM

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geoff

In article
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Onetap wrote:
On 3 Aug, 15:34, "Dug Wilder" wrote:
Complaint to local trading standards?

Very unlikely they'll have the time to bother over just one example. The
majority of cars sold by certain sectors of the used car trade are
'clocked'.

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*Too many clicks spoil the browse *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

geoff wrote:
In message , Dug Wilder
writes
What amusing phone call might be made to a not very nice bloke and
his not very nice pal, who are re-advertising a car for sale that
actually looks reasonably good, supposedly a lady owner, and only a
small milage on it; but in reality is a worn out piece of rubbish.
And they know this full well. It's easily gone right around the clock.
Somebody is going to get
really stung by these dishonest people. So what might one (legally)
say in a phone call to give them a sleepless night and think twice
before cheating someone?
Paging Adam

Why me? I have no ideas how to stop them with legal methods.

I also once sold a car that was a dangerous heap of ****e.















I covered my back and called it a Ford Sierra in the advert.

--
Adam

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dug Wilder"
saying something like:

What amusing phone call might be made to a not very nice bloke and his not
very nice pal, who are re-advertising a car for sale that actually looks
reasonably good, supposedly a lady owner, and only a small milage on it; but
in reality is a worn out piece of rubbish. And they know this full well.

It's easily gone right around the clock. Somebody is going to get really
stung by these dishonest people. So what might one (legally) say in a phone
call to give them a sleepless night and think twice before cheating someone?

Stuff the legality - phone up and make out you're from Trading
Standards.

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:52:20 GMT, Chris Whelan
wrote:



I think the OP already knows the car is misrepresented; he wants to know
what he can do about it.

I read it that he wants to wind up the vendors.