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On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 04:04:59 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q"
wrote: Prices displayed to consumers *must* include VAT inclusive prices with equal prominence to ex-VAT prices (price marking order 2004). There's probably some loophole that allows some traders to get away with not doing so, like requiring you to be members of their club, or giving you an account number and deeming you to be a business customer. Not a few websites will do this, log in as a business customer and you get the ex-VAT prices (with the VAT added alongside), log in as a public and you get the VAT inclusive price (with the ex-VAT alongside) Still nothing that prevents wholesalers selling to the public. AFAIK no law, but they can choose not to. |
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On Wednesday, August 4th, 2010 at 06:11:29h +0100, James explained:
I've got the bibles written for a third series That seems like quite a revelation but I'm not sure if I own the rights. Oh dear, that is too bad. I was even wondering if perhaps there woule ever be the possibility of a pair of movies (in 3D of course) for Earthsearch I and II. My dear wife keeps jealous tabs on the appalling rubbish I used to write in the 1980 Of rather higher quality than much of the rubbish which is churned out today for TV, and what little is left of radio drama though. Incidentally, if you do not mind me asking, even if it has been asked before, did you ever perchance watch the CTV series "The Starlost" in the 1970s? |
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"Mark" wrote in message
... On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:42:14 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Mark wrote: On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:41:49 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: You see the lunacy under which we labour? That rule was introduced under a tory government. I don't recall suggesting it wasn't. Just confirms the dopeyness of a company running its own pension scheme, as opposed to none or contracting with a pensions co. to provide a service to their employees. You did use the word "labour" in your post. I know it had a small "l" but I did think it may be illuding to the party that introduced it. How very peculiar. labour (vb) 1. Strive and make an effort to reach a goal 2. Work hard 3. Undergo the efforts of childbirth I think meaning (1) was intended, with just a taste of (2) Were we all 'torying' under Thatcher and Major? What are we doing now? Condemming? -- Max Demian |
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On Wednesday, August 4th, 2010 at 12:43:16h +0100, Albert Ross wrote:
AFAIK no law, but they can choose not to. In fact under the laws of England and Wales, there is no requirement for a retailer to sell any of their displayed goods to any individual or company, except maybe if discrimination is on the basis of that which has been legislated to be illegal. |
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, Man at B&Q writes On Aug 4, 11:37*am, Tim Streater wrote: In article , *Roger wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 01:44:48 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q" wrote: On Aug 3, 5:06*pm, Michaelangelo wrote: Man at B&Q burst on the scene, and said: Care to post a link to some evidence of the veracity of your claim? Think VAT. What about VAT? My understanding is that retailers /must/ show a VAT inclusive price but there is no such requirement for wholesalers. BICBW. But if a wholesaler (or anyone else, AFAIK), quotes a price and *doesn't* say that it's ex-VAT, then it's deemed to include VAT. Which is why all comics from places like ScrewFix carefully point out that their prices are ex-VAT. Prices displayed to consumers *must* include VAT inclusive prices with equal prominence to ex-VAT prices (price marking order 2004). There's probably some loophole that allows some traders to get away with not doing so, like requiring you to be members of their club, or giving you an account number and deeming you to be a business customer. Still nothing that prevents wholesalers selling to the public. Those yellow signs (on all of the lamp poles in the carpark) almost certainly tell you what the restrictions are. Unfortunately, it is a known fact that people tend not to look upward so, no matter how prominent they are, such signs could easily be missed. A nice large, un-missable sign at the entrance would give the shopper no excuse for not knowing when he had outstayed his welcome. -- Ian |
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On Aug 4, 2:02*pm, Ian Jackson
wrote: In message , Man at B&Q writes On Aug 4, 11:37*am, Tim Streater wrote: In article , *Roger wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 01:44:48 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q" wrote: On Aug 3, 5:06*pm, Michaelangelo wrote: Man at B&Q burst on the scene, and said: Care to post a link to some evidence of the veracity of your claim? Think VAT. What about VAT? My understanding is that retailers /must/ show a VAT inclusive price but there is no such requirement for wholesalers. BICBW. But if a wholesaler (or anyone else, AFAIK), quotes a price and *doesn't* say that it's ex-VAT, then it's deemed to include VAT. Which is why all comics from places like ScrewFix carefully point out that their prices are ex-VAT. Prices displayed to consumers *must* include VAT inclusive prices with equal prominence to ex-VAT prices (price marking order 2004). There's probably some loophole that allows some traders to get away with not doing so, like requiring you to be members of their club, or giving you an account number and deeming you to be a business customer. Still nothing that prevents wholesalers selling to the public. Those yellow signs (on all of the lamp poles in the carpark) almost certainly tell you what the restrictions are. Unfortunately, it is a known fact that people tend not to look upward so, no matter how prominent they are, such signs could easily be missed. A nice large, un-missable sign at the entrance would give the shopper no excuse for not knowing when he had outstayed his welcome. -- Ian Eh? |
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J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, August 4th, 2010 at 12:43:16h +0100, Albert Ross wrote: AFAIK no law, but they can choose not to. In fact under the laws of England and Wales, there is no requirement for a retailer to sell any of their displayed goods to any individual or company, except maybe if discrimination is on the basis of that which has been legislated to be illegal. Indeed. However there is a law that says if you display it at a given price, you must honour that price if you sell at all '90% off Rolls Royces' is fair, as long as you are always out of stock when they call. |
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Man at B&Q wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:24 am, Roger wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 01:44:48 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q" wrote: On Aug 3, 5:06 pm, Michaelangelo wrote: Man at B&Q burst on the scene, and said: Care to post a link to some evidence of the veracity of your claim? Think VAT. What about VAT? My understanding is that retailers /must/ show a VAT inclusive price but there is no such requirement for wholesalers. BICBW. What has that got to do with the (so far unsubstantiated) claim that a wholesaler in the UK is not allowed to sell to the general public? Nothing whatsoever. You may or may not do so. At whatever prices you like. However if you have a 'trade price list' you can IIRC refuse to sell to customers at that price, on the grounds that they are noty v9olume buyers like your trade customers are. In my BM, they never ever publish trade prices. These are negiotiable if you have an account, however. MBQ |
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Max Demian wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message ... On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:42:14 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Mark wrote: On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:41:49 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: You see the lunacy under which we labour? That rule was introduced under a tory government. I don't recall suggesting it wasn't. Just confirms the dopeyness of a company running its own pension scheme, as opposed to none or contracting with a pensions co. to provide a service to their employees. You did use the word "labour" in your post. I know it had a small "l" but I did think it may be illuding to the party that introduced it. How very peculiar. labour (vb) 1. Strive and make an effort to reach a goal 2. Work hard 3. Undergo the efforts of childbirth I think meaning (1) was intended, with just a taste of (2) Were we all 'torying' under Thatcher and Major? What are we doing now? Condemming? I hope so. |
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