I want to fit a garden tap for my Mother. Just about the only place I can
plumb into is the washing machine feed. The copper pipe disappears straight
into the wall so I can't tee into the copper.

Is there such a beast that has a male washing machine connector at one end,
female at the other and something like a 15mm copper connector that I can
take off to the garden tap?
Just in case I'm not making sense, remove the washing machine hose and fit a
tee piece. Replace the hose and have a feed to the tap.

Regards

Periproct wrote:

I want to fit a garden tap for my Mother. Just about the only place I can
plumb into is the washing machine feed. The copper pipe disappears
straight into the wall so I can't tee into the copper.

Is there such a beast that has a male washing machine connector at one
end, female at the other and something like a 15mm copper connector that I
can take off to the garden tap?
Just in case I'm not making sense, remove the washing machine hose and fit
a tee piece. Replace the hose and have a feed to the tap.

Why not remove the WM tap from the pipe, add a short length of pipe with a
tee piece, refit the tap to the end of the extended pipe and take the feed
to the outside tap off the tee.

--
Mike Clarke

"Mike Clarke" wrote in message
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Periproct wrote:

I want to fit a garden tap for my Mother. Just about the only place I can
plumb into is the washing machine feed. The copper pipe disappears
straight into the wall so I can't tee into the copper.

Is there such a beast that has a male washing machine connector at one
end, female at the other and something like a 15mm copper connector that
I
can take off to the garden tap?
Just in case I'm not making sense, remove the washing machine hose and
fit
a tee piece. Replace the hose and have a feed to the tap.

Why not remove the WM tap from the pipe, add a short length of pipe with a
tee piece, refit the tap to the end of the extended pipe and take the feed
to the outside tap off the tee.

Sometimes I feel so dumb. :-) Thanks for that advice.

It is a compression fitting on there at the moment with very little exposed
15mm pipe to play with. I guess hacksaw carefully through the olive and open
it up with a screwdriver. Then a bit of Boss White to make sure.

In message , Periproct
writes


"Mike Clarke" wrote in message
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Periproct wrote:

I want to fit a garden tap for my Mother. Just about the only place I can
plumb into is the washing machine feed. The copper pipe disappears
straight into the wall so I can't tee into the copper.

Is there such a beast that has a male washing machine connector at one
end, female at the other and something like a 15mm copper connector
that I
can take off to the garden tap?
Just in case I'm not making sense, remove the washing machine hose
and fit
a tee piece. Replace the hose and have a feed to the tap.

Why not remove the WM tap from the pipe, add a short length of pipe with a
tee piece, refit the tap to the end of the extended pipe and take the feed
to the outside tap off the tee.

Sometimes I feel so dumb. :-) Thanks for that advice.

It is a compression fitting on there at the moment with very little
exposed 15mm pipe to play with. I guess hacksaw carefully through the
olive and open it up with a screwdriver. Then a bit of Boss White to
make sure.

Just undo the compression fitting and replace with a compression
T-piece leaving the nut and olive in place

Take 5 minutes out just to think it through properly


--
geoff

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Periproct"
saying something like:

Why not remove the WM tap from the pipe, add a short length of pipe with a
tee piece, refit the tap to the end of the extended pipe and take the feed
to the outside tap off the tee.

Sometimes I feel so dumb. :-) Thanks for that advice.

Or re-use the existing olive and nut, just wrap some ptfe tape around
the olive. I only suggest this to avoid stressing a stub of pipe, but it
should work perfectly well, with one proviso - the protruding stub of
copper after the olive should be short enough to allow the olive/ptfe to
seat and seal properly into the leg of the new T. Sometimes older
fittings are quite deep and the protruding copper is too long, needing a
trim with a junior hacksaw.

Mike Clarke wrote:
Periproct wrote:

I want to fit a garden tap for my Mother.

Sounds a bit drastic. Normally catheters have much smaller taps fitted.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Mike Clarke wrote:
Periproct wrote:

I want to fit a garden tap for my Mother.

Sounds a bit drastic. Normally catheters have much smaller taps fitted.

:-) I think at her age my Mum might appreciate having a tap fitted.

On 5 July, 00:06, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

Or re-use the existing olive and nut, just wrap some ptfe tape around
the olive.

Boss white - much better.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember 1501
saying something like:

On 5 July, 00:06, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

Or re-use the existing olive and nut, just wrap some ptfe tape around
the olive.

Boss white - much better.

Oh yes, no problem on new fits. I tend to use the tape if it's an old
olive being re-used.

In article ,
Grimly Curmudgeon writes:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember 1501
saying something like:

On 5 July, 00:06, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

Or re-use the existing olive and nut, just wrap some ptfe tape around
the olive.

Boss white - much better.

Oh yes, no problem on new fits. I tend to use the tape if it's an old
olive being re-used.

Note that the sealing surfaces of a compression fitting should have
absolutely nothing on them. I sometimes use one turn of PTFE as a
lubricant on the thread, but being careful to keep it out of the
sealing surfaces. (Never use anything on a gas compression fitting,
because it's impossible to prove you haven't got in on the sealing
surfaces.)

If the sealing surface has been damaged (e.g. by a sealant having
been applied in the past), and it's not replaceable, then you may
have to continue using a sealant for ever more.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember (Andrew
Gabriel) saying something like:


Note that the sealing surfaces of a compression fitting should have
absolutely nothing on them.

shrug
No skin off my nose. I do what I've found works, and damn the theory.

On 6 July, 11:42, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

No skin off my nose. I do what I've found works, and damn the theory.

You've made a home-made compression-washer joint. It's a joint, not a
bad sort either, but it's not a metal-to-metal compression joint any
more.

Personally I wouldn't do this. Not because switching away from metal-
to-metal is so bad (it's only domestic plumbing, so pressures,
temperatures and hazards are low) but because PTFE has cold flow
behaviour under strain. Compared to elastomers, it's a poor choice of
sealing washer. It works for threads because the surface is wide and
the gap is thin. It's much less good over olives because the sealing
area is narrower and mostly thicker. It'll seal, but it won't last as
long as a metal-metal joint.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Dingley
saying something like:

No skin off my nose. I do what I've found works, and damn the theory.

You've made a home-made compression-washer joint. It's a joint, not a
bad sort either, but it's not a metal-to-metal compression joint any
more.

Thousands of joints, no leaks.
Thanks for the lecture, anyway.