Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush ...
but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me till I
bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with the
push buttons, and the side flush ?

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:28:48 +0100, "Matthew.Ridges"
wrote:
Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush ...
but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me till I
bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with the
push buttons, and the side flush ?


For about £21 you can buy a kit to convert your handle flush cistern
to push button. The brand is Wirquin and the kit is called "Flushing
kit Dual FRONT".

It offers a dual flush and a fast, quiet inlet valve.

I recently fitted one. The flush is very powerful and this means the
short flush is enough to clear almost anything. The long flush is
only rarely needed so this saves a lot of water - ideal if you are on
a water meter.

There is also a single flush version but that would waste an awful lot
of water.

The inlet valve fills the cistern very quickly indeed and is much
faster (and quieter) than the average ball valve. It is suitable for
low and high pressure systems. The flush valve has an internal
overflow so, if water regulations allow, there is no need for an
external spout.

The push button can be fixed flush or surface mounted depending on the
diameter of the fixing hole in the front of your cistern. Our
cistern, which dates from the mid-1990s, has a small fixing hole so
the push button had to be surface mounted. No worries, though,
because it looks neat either way.

£21 from B&Q.

"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:28:48 +0100, "Matthew.Ridges"
wrote:
Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush ...
but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me till I
bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with
the
push buttons, and the side flush ?


For about £21 you can buy a kit to convert your handle flush cistern
to push button. The brand is Wirquin and the kit is called "Flushing
kit Dual FRONT".

It offers a dual flush and a fast, quiet inlet valve.

I recently fitted one. The flush is very powerful and this means the
short flush is enough to clear almost anything. The long flush is
only rarely needed so this saves a lot of water - ideal if you are on
a water meter.

There is also a single flush version but that would waste an awful lot
of water.

The inlet valve fills the cistern very quickly indeed and is much
faster (and quieter) than the average ball valve. It is suitable for
low and high pressure systems. The flush valve has an internal
overflow so, if water regulations allow, there is no need for an
external spout.

The push button can be fixed flush or surface mounted depending on the
diameter of the fixing hole in the front of your cistern. Our
cistern, which dates from the mid-1990s, has a small fixing hole so
the push button had to be surface mounted. No worries, though,
because it looks neat either way.

£21 from B&Q.



I love you Bruce, you have gotten me out of bother

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:04:46 +0100, "Matthew.Ridges"
wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:28:48 +0100, "Matthew.Ridges"
wrote:
Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush ...
but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me till I
bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with
the
push buttons, and the side flush ?


For about £21 you can buy a kit to convert your handle flush cistern
to push button. The brand is Wirquin and the kit is called "Flushing
kit Dual FRONT".

It offers a dual flush and a fast, quiet inlet valve.

I recently fitted one. The flush is very powerful and this means the
short flush is enough to clear almost anything. The long flush is
only rarely needed so this saves a lot of water - ideal if you are on
a water meter.

There is also a single flush version but that would waste an awful lot
of water.

The inlet valve fills the cistern very quickly indeed and is much
faster (and quieter) than the average ball valve. It is suitable for
low and high pressure systems. The flush valve has an internal
overflow so, if water regulations allow, there is no need for an
external spout.

The push button can be fixed flush or surface mounted depending on the
diameter of the fixing hole in the front of your cistern. Our
cistern, which dates from the mid-1990s, has a small fixing hole so
the push button had to be surface mounted. No worries, though,
because it looks neat either way.

£21 from B&Q.



I love you Bruce,


Steady, now! ;-)


you have gotten me out of bother


It worked for me. SWMBO loves me to bits - for now.

Trouble is, she volunteered me to fit one for one of her friends. :-(

Matthew.Ridges wrote:
Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush ...
but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me till I
bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with the
push buttons, and the side flush ?

By dual flush, are you saying you want (a) both the push buttons on top
as well as the side lever? (why?)

Or do you want (b) a cistern which gives the option of two flush volumes
(large and small), but operated by a side lever?

I think the answer's no on both counts, but clarification might help
someone else answer you.

David

"Lobster" wrote in message
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Matthew.Ridges wrote:
Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush
... but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me
till I bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with
the push buttons, and the side flush ?

By dual flush, are you saying you want (a) both the push buttons on top as
well as the side lever? (why?)

Thats it ... erm because I bought a standard one that already has a lever
and my wife wanted one with push button, so I thought heck best of both
worlds lol.. Ok and I lost the receipt to return it and just get the push
button one. I was hoping to perhaps get a lid with the buttons on and just
switch it and the bits inside and stick a rubber bung in the lever hole ..

Or do you want (b) a cistern which gives the option of two flush volumes
(large and small), but operated by a side lever?

I think the answer's no on both counts, but clarification might help
someone else answer you.

David

"Matthew.Ridges" wrote in message
...

"Lobster" wrote in message
news:bh2Sn.44490$s16.11026@hurricane...
Matthew.Ridges wrote:
Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush
... but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me
till I bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with
the push buttons, and the side flush ?

By dual flush, are you saying you want (a) both the push buttons on top
as well as the side lever? (why?)

Thats it ... erm because I bought a standard one that already has a lever
and my wife wanted one with push button, so I thought heck best of both
worlds lol.. Ok and I lost the receipt to return it and just get the push
button one. I was hoping to perhaps get a lid with the buttons on and just
switch it and the bits inside and stick a rubber bung in the lever hole ..

Or do you want (b) a cistern which gives the option of two flush volumes
(large and small), but operated by a side lever?

I think the answer's no on both counts, but clarification might help
someone else answer you.

David





Buttons and levers operate totally different types of flush mechanisms - so
having both is not going to be possible

"Lobster" wrote in message
news:bh2Sn.44490$s16.11026@hurricane...
Matthew.Ridges wrote:
Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush
... but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me
till I bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with
the push buttons, and the side flush ?

By dual flush, are you saying you want (a) both the push buttons on top as
well as the side lever? (why?)

Or do you want (b) a cistern which gives the option of two flush volumes
(large and small), but operated by a side lever?

I think the answer's no on both counts, but clarification might help
someone else answer you.

David


The original cisterns fitted to all three toilets in my house when it was
built 25 years ago, were dual flush types, but operated by a standard right
mounted handle. You merely pressed and let go for the short flush, or
pressed and held for longer than perhaps 2 seconds, for the long flush. So
the answer to (b) was certainly a "yes" back then. I would have thought that
such handle flushing mechs would still be available now ??

Ah yes. Here you go and cheaper than the B&Q option mentioned by Bruce

http://www.cisternfittings.co.uk/del...yphon-25-p.asp

Looks like I got the operating sequence for long and short flush backwards
though ... :-)

Arfa

Arfa Daily wrote:

The original cisterns fitted to all three toilets in my house when it was
built 25 years ago, were dual flush types, but operated by a standard
right mounted handle. You merely pressed and let go for the short flush,
or pressed and held for longer than perhaps 2 seconds, for the long flush.
So the answer to (b) was certainly a "yes" back then. I would have thought
that such handle flushing mechs would still be available now *??

Ah yes. Here you go and cheaper than the B&Q option mentioned by Bruce

http://www.cisternfittings.co.uk/del...yphon-25-p.asp

Looks like I got the operating sequence for long and short flush
backwards though ... * *:-)

No, I distinctly remember the one in our last house working as you
described. There was a small hole in the top of the big bulgy bit of the
body, if you let go of the handle the hole let air in and broke the syphon
action when the water level fell to the level of the hole but if you kept
the handle pressed the plunger blocked the hole and the water in the
cistern flushed out until it was empty. The one in the link you gave either
uses a different method or they've got the description back to front.

I seem to remember them being banned for some odd reason though.

--
Mike Clarke

"Mike Clarke" wrote in message
news
Arfa Daily wrote:

The original cisterns fitted to all three toilets in my house when it was
built 25 years ago, were dual flush types, but operated by a standard
right mounted handle. You merely pressed and let go for the short flush,
or pressed and held for longer than perhaps 2 seconds, for the long
flush.
So the answer to (b) was certainly a "yes" back then. I would have
thought
that such handle flushing mechs would still be available now ??

Ah yes. Here you go and cheaper than the B&Q option mentioned by Bruce

http://www.cisternfittings.co.uk/del...yphon-25-p.asp

Looks like I got the operating sequence for long and short flush
backwards though ... :-)

No, I distinctly remember the one in our last house working as you
described. There was a small hole in the top of the big bulgy bit of the
body, if you let go of the handle the hole let air in and broke the syphon
action when the water level fell to the level of the hole but if you kept
the handle pressed the plunger blocked the hole and the water in the
cistern flushed out until it was empty. The one in the link you gave
either
uses a different method or they've got the description back to front.

I seem to remember them being banned for some odd reason though.

--
Mike Clarke

I have two as you describe. On installing them a blue plug can be removed -
this allows the siphon to be broken due to air being admitted if the plunger
is not blocking it. Holding the handle down causes part of the mechanism to
block this air admittance hole.

I wish you could recall why they might have been banned.

"Mike Clarke" wrote in message
news
Arfa Daily wrote:

The original cisterns fitted to all three toilets in my house when it was
built 25 years ago, were dual flush types, but operated by a standard
right mounted handle. You merely pressed and let go for the short flush,
or pressed and held for longer than perhaps 2 seconds, for the long
flush.
So the answer to (b) was certainly a "yes" back then. I would have
thought
that such handle flushing mechs would still be available now ??

Ah yes. Here you go and cheaper than the B&Q option mentioned by Bruce

http://www.cisternfittings.co.uk/del...yphon-25-p.asp

Looks like I got the operating sequence for long and short flush
backwards though ... :-)

No, I distinctly remember the one in our last house working as you
described. There was a small hole in the top of the big bulgy bit of the
body, if you let go of the handle the hole let air in and broke the syphon
action when the water level fell to the level of the hole but if you kept
the handle pressed the plunger blocked the hole and the water in the
cistern flushed out until it was empty. The one in the link you gave
either
uses a different method or they've got the description back to front.

I seem to remember them being banned for some odd reason though.

--
Mike Clarke

I have two as you describe. On installing them a blue plug can be removed -
this allows the siphon to be broken due to air being admitted if the plunger
is not blocking it. Holding the handle down causes part of the mechanism to
block this air admittance hole.

I wish you could recall why they might have been banned.

John wrote:


"Mike Clarke" wrote in message
news

[snip]

No, I distinctly remember the one in our last house working as you
described. There was a small hole in the top of the big bulgy bit of the
body, if you let go of the handle the hole let air in and broke the
syphon action when the water level fell to the level of the hole but if
you kept the handle pressed the plunger blocked the hole and the water in
the cistern flushed out until it was empty. The one in the link you gave
either
uses a different method or they've got the description back to front.

I seem to remember them being banned for some odd reason though.

--
Mike Clarke

I have two as you describe. On installing them a blue plug can be removed
- this allows the siphon to be broken due to air being admitted if the
plunger is not blocking it. Holding the handle down causes part of the
mechanism to block this air admittance hole.

I wish you could recall why they might have been banned.

I could well be wrong but I think there was a theory that they actually
wasted water rather than saving it. From what I remember it was along the
lines that many people didn't realise that you needed to hold the handle
down for a full flush so when they gave the handle a quick press and
release it didn't clear the solids so they just kept on flushing many times
to get things cleared.

--
Mike Clarke

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:26:55 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
wrote:

Ah yes. Here you go and cheaper than the B&Q option mentioned by Bruce
http://www.cisternfittings.co.uk/del...yphon-25-p.asp


But my recommended option included both the fill valve *and* the
flushing valve.

The flushing valve alone cost about £11.

"Matthew.Ridges" wrote in message
...
Hmmm I bought a new toilet with the usual handle on the right to flush ...
but my wife wanted a push button one which she neglected to tell me till I
bought this one from B&Q.

I've lost the receipt aswell now doh!

Soooo to keep her indoors quiet can I have a dual flush lol toilet with
the push buttons, and the side flush ?

If you have not fitted it, it is still in the same condition as you bought
it in, and you paid on a card, then this should be ample proof of purchase,
especially if you are going to buy a different one from the same place...

Toby...