On Apr 27, 12:46 pm, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 27, 12:24 pm, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
wrote:

Very good post, I have not seen it set out like that before. It brings
it all down to earth and into perspective. We go need people with a
successful track record to take us out of the Credit Crunch. Once
again, excellent.
Sadly, none of those exist in the Labour Party.

I go on record and results.The OPs post was factually correct and well
put for once cutting through the flannel we hear all about us. We do
need stability and experience to take us out of this depression, not
some green public schoolboys in charge. That is the last thing we
need. Brown did run the economy brilliantly and we all befitted. He
was the architect of the world-wide recovery. These are difficult
times. People should sit back, reassess and look at the gravity of the
world situation we are in. Use common sense. We need the right man for
the job and Brown is the man. We need Gordon Brown's experience to
guide us out. I can't think of anyone else who can do the job. These
are serious times and we cannot be flippant.

Indeed, so vote the *******s out. They have great experience in wrecking
the country and stifling initiative. Just look at their track records
and their CVs. Do YOU want an MP who is an independent aromatherapy
consultant?

better stick with the bent devious slimy duplicitous ****wits we've
got now....eh?

JimK

"This is your Captain speaking. I am sorry, but we are about to crash,
since I allowed the aircraft to run out of fuel.

But don't worry, I am just the sort of experienced safe pair of hands
you need to get us down safely, and I will be personally taking charge
of the evacuation, and fire fighting, since I have more experience in
****ing in the wind than all of the rest of the cabin crew put together.

Oh, and don't listen to that young shaver in the cabin. Being able to
fly an F16 and having won the Red Bull air races is no substitute for
sitting the in the cockpit of a 747 or wandering down the aisle in my
smart uniform, letting the autopilot do all the work, and forgetting to
look at the fuel gauges.

Finally, I give you my personal commitment to ensure that if the plane
goes down, we all die equally horribly. A Fair and Equal policy will not
allow me to rescue one person if I cannot rescue all. So once I have got
out of the burning plane, there will be a period of consultation done by
an independent Quango, and, if its conclusion is that we cannot rescue
everyone, you will all be left to die horribly. But fairly."

Gordon "A Fairer Airline" Brown..

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

You can't buff an economy for 11 years!!!

Neither can you polish a turd - doesn't stop you trying, though.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...

You can see

It really is quite comical to read how some of you sycophantically think
that a Tory government full of Hurray Henry's who all go to the same private
schools, will sort things out for the country. Let us play a little quiz for
all the political morons out there. Answers on a postcard to the editors of
the Dail Mail, Daily Express, and that comic for the flat forehead society,
the Sun reader. The prize will be two weeks all found in downtown Bagdad.

1. Which party took us into Europe on the basis that there would not be any
artificial trade barriers. All these countries would come to our aid if we
got into trouble!! We joined, and they did not help us, So much for the
Tories taking us into Rurope.

2. Which chancellor came out of No 10 downing street looking like Kermit the
frog on speed to tell the world in general and the British people in
particular, that he had just lost all our foreign currency reserves, and
that interest rates would now go up to 16%!!!!!

3. Which government was it, that if you wanted to speak to your local MP,
you first had to apply for a prison visitors pass!

4. Which prime minister was it who was banging on about the virtues of the
married family, whilst at the same time he was doing just that with one of
his married junior ministers!

5. Which government was it who used to play pass the parcel in the corridors
of Westminster, and whoever caught the parcel, was rewarded with a big wedge
of crisp new fivers!

6. Which government minister was found hanging from a beam in fishnet
stockings and red lace underwear, with a pair of female tights pulled over
his head and an orange stuck in his mouth!

7. Which prime minister said outside of no 10 Downing Street to all the
population, and I quote, "Where there is dischord, let me bring harmony",
and weeks later there were some of the biggest riots ever seen in Britain!

8. Which government was it, that after receiving detailed intelligence from
the secret service, prevaricated, and then had to send a flotilla to the
South Atlantic where three hundred men were to remain dead!

9. Name the Lord, who had to resign because of it!

10. Who introduced the Poll Tax - as daft as the window tax?

11. To those who read the Sun, I'll give you a clue. The political colour
you are looking for is not-red, yellow,green, or red and white. Look up and
you,ll see it just past the clouds, and there's lots of it.

Please, no more claptrap about how wonderful the Tories will be. Some of us
know better, as all we have to do is look at their record:

Look at the appalling Tory record:

* Cardboard cities - and they didn't care, blaming the victims
* Mass unemployment - Horrendous levels.
* Devastation of industry - One fifth of industry went under Thatcher and
Major.
* Devastation of economic growth creating infrastructure - It was
privatized. E.g., Thatcher said the railways and mines were losing money.
They were not as they were a part of the wealth creating process. She was so
dumb her and her party could not see that.
* Private Profit and Socialised Debts - Thatcher privatized the rail tracks
creating Railtrack and of course it went bust having to be replaced by a
Network Rail and non-profit organisation setup by Tony Blair. Small
investors were ripped off and taxpayer picking up the bill yet again.
privatized profits and socialized debts when they have creamed off and ran.
* North Sea Oil Wasted - A total wasting of the greatest legacy left to us -
North Sea Oil. The revenue from the oil was not invested into the country,
in education, training and industry, just used for dole money in failed
economic theories.
* Failed Economic Theories -Implementing the silly Thatcher neo-capitalism
that was bound to fail and did with the Credit Crunch.
* The Poll Tax introduced. It cause riots. They had to change it and
introduced the Council Tax. Another tax as daft as the window tax. If you
put a conservatory on your house they tax you.
* etc
* etc
* etc

They keep spouting CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE. On matters that need change, the
electoral system and the constitution, and introducing a meritocracy
eliminating the Eton/Harrow/Oxbridge privildged ruling class, they offer
none at all.

The Tories have no intention of changing the current privileged ruling class
Eton/Harrow/Oxbridge system. They are just shuffling deckchairs on the
Titanic. Everything they do hits icebergs.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

Remember we won the world cup under a
Labour government.

What do you mean 'we', white man?

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

You can't buff an economy for 11 years!!!

Neither can you polish a turd - doesn't stop you trying, though.

Once again for the hard of thinking, "You can't buff an economy for 11
years!!!"

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

Remember we won the world cup under a
Labour government.

What do you mean 'we', white man?

A team out of the UK. We... Do you know where we live?

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
news
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

You can't buff an economy for 11 years!!!

Neither can you polish a turd - doesn't stop you trying, though.

Once again for the hard of thinking, "You can't buff an economy for 11
years!!!"

That'd be a whoosh, then.

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
news
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
news
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

You can't buff an economy for 11 years!!!

Neither can you polish a turd - doesn't stop you trying, though.

Once again for the hard of thinking, "You can't buff an economy for 11
years!!!"

That'd be a whoosh, then.

Once again for the hard of thinking, "You can't buff an economy for 11
years!!!" The longest and highest economic growth in UK history.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
.. .
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

Remember we won the world cup under a
Labour government.

What do you mean 'we', white man?

A team out of the UK. We... Do you know where we live?

Britain won the Wold Cup? When was that, then?

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
. ..
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

Remember we won the world cup under a
Labour government.

What do you mean 'we', white man?

A team out of the UK. We... Do you know where we live?

Britain won the Wold Cup? When was that, then?

1966.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
...


2. Which chancellor came out of No 10 downing street looking like Kermit
the frog on speed to tell the world in general and the British people in
particular, that he had just lost all our foreign currency reserves,


That was Gordon Brown when he sold off the gold reserves at a discount.


3. Which government was it, that if you wanted to speak to your local MP,
you first had to apply for a prison visitors pass!

The current one.


4. Which prime minister was it who was banging on about the virtues of the
married family, whilst at the same time he was doing just that with one of
his married junior ministers!

Just shows he was human.


I won't bother with the rest as its all drivel.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

Remember we won the world cup under a
Labour government.

What do you mean 'we', white man?

A team out of the UK. We... Do you know where we live?

Britain won the Wold Cup? When was that, then?

1966.

LOL.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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2. Which chancellor came out of No 10 downing street looking like Kermit
the frog on speed to tell the world in general and the British people in
particular, that he had just lost all our foreign currency reserves,

That was Gordon Brown

WRONG! Nil points

3. Which government was it, that if you wanted to speak to your local MP,
you first had to apply for a prison visitors pass!

The current one.

WRONG!

4. Which prime minister was it who was banging on about the virtues of
the married family, whilst at the same time he was doing just that with
one of his married junior ministers!

Just shows he was human.

WRONG! He was destroying other families by shagging their wives.

I won't bother with the rest

Do not bother as you are a sycophanic Little Middle England loser.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
m...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

Remember we won the world cup under a
Labour government.

What do you mean 'we', white man?

A team out of the UK. We... Do you know where we live?

Britain won the Wold Cup? When was that, then?

1966.

LOL.

I laughed myself when we beat the Germans

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:25:16 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

Inflation has been around 2 or 3% for some years before Blair took over.
And the first thing they did was a raid on Pensions, then Brown sold a
lot of our gold at rock bottom prices, etc etc.

Inflation was completely out of control under the Tories for almost
all of their reign - despite huge oil revenues and selling off the
family silver they ****ed it against the wall in a truly spectacular
way. The "raid on pensions" is close to immaterial. If your pension
failed to meet expectations then blame the rampant inflation of the
Tories, the lack of growth in the economy, the lack of investment in
infrastructure during the years of massive oil wealth when
unemployment was deemed acceptable for a whole generation.

The sale of gold might have been mistimed, but the government
shouldn't be speculating in precious metals. Gold in the bank does
sweet **** all to improve the prosperity of the country. It doesn't
feed people, or provide them with jobs, or new schools, or new
hospitals or anything worthwhile.

Going back to RPI

13 years of Labour
RPI increase for 1997-2010 36%

Last 10 years of Tory rule
RPI increase 1987-1997 55%

17 years of Tory rule
RPI increase for 1980-1997 236%

Last 13 years of Tory rule
RPI increase for 1984-1997 77%

Source ONS
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBas....asp?vlnk=7172

But don't let facts get in the way of your rabidly misguided views.


--

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

Very good post, I have not seen it set out like that before. It brings
it all down to earth and into perspective. We go need people with a
successful track record to take us out of the Credit Crunch. Once
again, excellent.

I see Drivel's got his sockpuppets out.

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

Very good post, I have not seen it set out like that before. It brings
it all down to earth and into perspective. We go need people with a
successful track record to take us out of the Credit Crunch. Once
again, excellent.

I see Drivel's got his sockpuppets out.

Madness indeed.

"The Other Mike" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:25:16 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

Inflation has been around 2 or 3% for some years before Blair took over.
And the first thing they did was a raid on Pensions, then Brown sold a
lot of our gold at rock bottom prices, etc etc.

Inflation was completely out of control under the Tories for almost
all of their reign - despite huge oil revenues and selling off the
family silver they ****ed it against the wall in a truly spectacular
way. The "raid on pensions" is close to immaterial. If your pension
failed to meet expectations then blame the rampant inflation of the
Tories, the lack of growth in the economy, the lack of investment in
infrastructure during the years of massive oil wealth when
unemployment was deemed acceptable for a whole generation.

The sale of gold might have been mistimed, but the government
shouldn't be speculating in precious metals. Gold in the bank does
sweet **** all to improve the prosperity of the country. It doesn't
feed people, or provide them with jobs, or new schools, or new
hospitals or anything worthwhile.

Going back to RPI

13 years of Labour
RPI increase for 1997-2010 36%

Last 10 years of Tory rule
RPI increase 1987-1997 55%

17 years of Tory rule
RPI increase for 1980-1997 236%

Last 13 years of Tory rule
RPI increase for 1984-1997 77%

Source ONS
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBas....asp?vlnk=7172

But don't let facts get in the way of your rabidly misguided views.

Realistically Labour just about got over the massive Tory mess they
inherited when the Credit Crunch hit us.

By the time Labour came to power the Tory dirty was done.

The Rich Got Richer With a Sub-Underclass Created

Tory work had been done by the time Labour took control, with the rich
creaming off resources showing little enterprise whatsoever, taking rent for
land, and selling land for large sums, of which they did nothing to increase
the land values. The rich got richer and a sub-underclass created.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"dennis@home" wrote in message
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
om...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

Remember we won the world cup under a
Labour government.

What do you mean 'we', white man?

A team out of the UK. We... Do you know where we live?

Britain won the Wold Cup? When was that, then?

1966.

LOL.

I laughed myself when we beat the Germans


The "Anyone But England" T Shirts are selling as fast as deep fried Mars
bars in Scotland.

Adam

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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The "Anyone But England" T Shirts are selling as fast as deep fried Mars
bars in Scotland.

Fantastic. Such chips on shoulders. tsk!

Doctor Drivel wrote:

Our resident Chav,

Drivel

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

Our resident Chav,

Drivel

Doctor Drivel please. Get it right. How is the ASBO going?

Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:

Our resident Chav

Drivel

Doctor Drivel please. Get it right.

I think you could get elevated to Professor Drivel for today's
outpourings ...

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:

Our resident Chav

Drivel

Doctor Drivel please. Get it right.

I think you could get elevated to Professor Drivel for today's outpourings
...

Thank you.

Steve Firth wrote:
Doctor Drivel wrote:

All

**** off, you are a plantpot.

Thanks for that Steve, I was struggling about to answer him/her.

Dave

Doctor Drivel wrote:

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

All

**** off, you are a plantpot.

When did plantpots get the vote?

Do they allowed tagged people to vote?

Are you aware what parsing is?

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
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Steve Firth wrote:
Doctor Drivel wrote:

All

**** off, you are a plantpot.

Thanks for that Steve, I was struggling about to answer him/her.

I blame the Tories in their poor education. This one could even find simple
words. Appalling.

"Dave" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

All

**** off, you are a plantpot.

When did plantpots get the vote?

Do they allowed tagged people to vote?

Are you aware what parsing is?


I still blame the Tories for this man's poor education.

ARWadsworth wrote:


That was Gordon Banks not Gordon Brown.

"Safe as the Bank of England" when he was in goal


Just for a moment I misread that as Gordon Brown... in gaol

Andy

On 27 Apr, 00:01, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
saying something like:

The best we have had is Blair/Brown. They took the country from a basket
case under the Tories into one of the world's strongest economies. The pound
was the world strongest currency for about 10 years.

Built on sand, you idiot.

Because the

In message , ARWadsworth
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

All

**** off, you are a plantpot.

When did plantpots get the vote?

Do they allowed tagged people to vote?


Why not?
Prisoners can vote.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...dorder/5126647
/Prisoners-to-get-right-to-vote-after-140-years-following-European-rulin
g.html

What about sectioned loonies like drivel, though ?

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geoff

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:06:09 +0100 Dennis@home wrote :
That was Gordon Brown when he sold off the gold reserves at a
discount.

No he gave loads of Brits the chance to make a killing g

If you look at the gold price, the real condemnation should be the
governments who held on to it for decades whilst the price went
nowhere, in the meantime borrowing billions at interest rates that
are much higher than now.

http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/gold-pf.html

If Conservative chancellors are so clever and have crystal balls,
why didn't sell off all the UK's gold in 1987 and buy it back at
half the price twelve years later? ... In the meantime having
made/saved a fortune in interest.

--
Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on' Melbourne, Australia
www.superbeam.co.uk www.eurobeam.co.uk www.greentram.com

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , ARWadsworth
writes

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

All

**** off, you are a plantpot.

When did plantpots get the vote?

Do they allowed tagged people to vote?


Why not?
Prisoners can vote.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...dorder/5126647
/Prisoners-to-get-right-to-vote-after-140-years-following-European-rulin
g.html

What about sectioned loonies like drivel, though ?

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geoff

Well they could have pretend votes. As long as nursie keeps quiet about it
then they would not know any better.

Just sign your name next to the candidate you want to stalk, and hey presto
a big X appears.

Adam

In message , Doctor Drivel
writes

Bwahahahah... Brown would have trouble putting together a sentence.

What I wrote was FACT!!! Yours was stupid opinionated clap-trap.

The most successful government in modern times is the Blair/Brown
government.
FACT!!! FACT!!! FACT!!!!

You misspelt

FUKT!!! FUKT!!! FUKT!!!



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geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
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What about sectioned loonies like drivel, though ?

Maxie makes and entrance. Fantastic! How the Paddy Band going Maxie? Do you
still wear turned down wellies?

"geoff" wrote in message
news
FUKT!!! FUKT!!! FUKT!!!

Maxie, is that a song you sing in the Paddy band? Fantastic.

In message , Donwill
writes
On 26/04/2010 22:15, Doctor Drivel wrote:
All Labour have to do is tell the facts about their record. snipped
The rest is DRIVEL.
Congratulations, first in the killfile in uk.d-i-y.
Don

You can't boot the cabaret ...

The only downside if this thread is that I find myself having to agree
with dennis

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geoff

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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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"stuart noble" wrote in message
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Roberts wrote:
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Doctor Drivel
wibbled on Monday 26 April 2010 22:15

All Labour have to do is tell the facts about their record, which is
superb. The Hurray Henry Tories shadow cabinet are all from the
same few
schools.

Hi Group
When it is announced that the rich have got richer and the poor got
poorer, it is time for this so-called Labour government to go. I
think they should be called New Tories not New Labour.
Having been in the Army under Eton educated officers I could not
vote for a gang of useless twits who were almost incapeable of
looking after themselves - the senior NCOs had to step in and run things
Robbie

If the Thatcher/Blair years have taught us anything, it should be
that a hung parliament is the way to go. Let them squabble and horse
trade for a few years so that they can't actually change anything.

I can't wait for the election to finish then we can get down to the
serious and important issues of the day such as the SA World Cup
finals and a summer holiday with the girlfriend.

..and Gordon Brown still in charge. Remember we won the world cup
under a Labour government.


Sorry adam - this just ain't going to happen

the cycloptic loser is history



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geoff