I need a wood glue with reasonable open time (genuine 5mins to get
clamps on and ensure square) and moisture resistant. Bostik's website
doesn't list the open time for green/blue bottle evo-stik, bizarrely.
It is for dowels & biscuits, cupboards, panels etc.

Anyone a suggestion? Evo-stik blue bottle?

js.b1 wrote:
I need a wood glue with reasonable open time (genuine 5mins to get
clamps on and ensure square) and moisture resistant. Bostik's website
doesn't list the open time for green/blue bottle evo-stik, bizarrely.
It is for dowels & biscuits, cupboards, panels etc.

Anyone a suggestion? Evo-stik blue bottle?

All of the PVA and Cascamite types of glue will give you what you want. Try
Unibond, I've used that for over 40 years with no problems (Evo-stik does
the same)!

Remember, that to get the best results and least problems, always do a 'dry'
assembly first as this will expose any gaps and imperfections in the job and
may give some ideas on a better cramping sequence.

Once you have done this and marked everything in a proper assembly
sequence - then glue and cramp - and it often pays to put a piece of
newspaper between the work and cramps (or temporary bearers) to prevent
accidental 'sticking'.

Cash

On 24/01/2010 22:40, js.b1 wrote:
I need a wood glue with reasonable open time (genuine 5mins to get
clamps on and ensure square) and moisture resistant. Bostik's website
doesn't list the open time for green/blue bottle evo-stik, bizarrely.
It is for dowels& biscuits, cupboards, panels etc.

Anyone a suggestion? Evo-stik blue bottle?

Aerolite 306? 5 to 25 minutes open.

http://www.axminster.co.uk/sessionID/NLO/product-Aerolite-306-Glue-21177.htm

Expensive. Maybe not suitable for your requirements.

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Rod

Noted re replies.

Assuming after clamping that some cupping forces a slight gap
(unlikely, but possible), would a polyurethane glue with long open
time like Gorilla Glue be suitable?

If not, evo-stik is quick to pickup locally.

js.b1 wrote:
I need a wood glue with reasonable open time (genuine 5mins to get
clamps on and ensure square) and moisture resistant. Bostik's website
doesn't list the open time for green/blue bottle evo-stik, bizarrely.
It is for dowels & biscuits, cupboards, panels etc.

Anyone a suggestion? Evo-stik blue bottle?
Hot glue gun?

woss wrong with PVA?

On 25 Jan, 01:05, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
js.b1 wrote:
I need a wood glue with reasonable open time (genuine 5mins to get
clamps on and ensure square) and moisture resistant. Bostik's website
doesn't list the open time for green/blue bottle evo-stik, bizarrely.
It is for dowels & biscuits, cupboards, panels etc.

Anyone a suggestion? Evo-stik blue bottle?

Hot glue gun?

woss wrong with PVA?

Hot glue has almost zero open time in my experience. PVA - well there
are waterproof PVA's, and new ones coming onto the market.

The OP doesn't say what the job is, but I use PU now quite
extensively. It has adequate open time, is waterproof and will fill a
gap though this is by foaming and is not as strong as a tight joint.
I get the gunnable tubes which makes application easy. The only
downside is that it isn't water soluble so plastic gloves are a must
when assembling. Another plus is that it will stick to metal as well.

If you don't like PU go the Cascamite route though you will need to
find the current name for it. It fills gaps strongly.

Rob

On Jan 25, 9:53*am, robgraham wrote:
The OP doesn't say what the job is

Kitchen cupboard frames made of PAR european oak, joined by dowel
joint (Joint Genie) & some biscuit jointing. Final finish will be Osmo
hardwax oil.

Until I get the clamps I can not test how tightly I can close the
small gaps due to cupping/twist. However from just squeezing with my
hands and a steel rule for guidance the worst gap closes down to a
thickness of a graduation line with daylight visible through.

If you don't like PU go the Cascamite route though you will need to
find the current name for it. *It fills gaps strongly.

Noted, sounds like cascamite may be the better choice.

On 25 Jan, 15:06, "js.b1" wrote:

Kitchen cupboard frames made of PAR european oak, joined by dowel
joint (Joint Genie) & some biscuit jointing.

Titebond II (not III) for general, with PVA (builder's generic,
slightly thinned) in a lemon-nozzle bottle for the biscuits.

Wouldn't touch PU with a bargepole, although admittedly Gorilla is one
of the better ones.

On Jan 25, 4:04*pm, Andy Dingley wrote:
On 25 Jan, 15:06, "js.b1" wrote:
Kitchen cupboard frames made of PAR european oak, joined by dowel
joint (Joint Genie) & some biscuit jointing.

Titebond II (not III) for general, with PVA (builder's generic,
slightly thinned) in a lemon-nozzle bottle for the biscuits.

Noted, Titebond II ordered. Thanks.