Sorry, me again. I also need a cheap shower to replace our rubbish bath. Can
you suggest for that too? I saw one in Argos ( shower base and enclosure)
and it had good reviews but husband said that Argos write their own reviews
and pretend they are consumers. Is this correct?

The shower will be my birthday present.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
whiskeyomega wrote:

Sorry, me again. I also need a cheap shower to replace our rubbish
bath. Can you suggest for that too? I saw one in Argos ( shower base
and enclosure) and it had good reviews but husband said that Argos
write their own reviews and pretend they are consumers. Is this
correct?
The shower will be my birthday present.

On reading all your recent posts, it seems to me that what you want for
Christmas is a new *husband*!
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"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
whiskeyomega wrote:

Sorry, me again. I also need a cheap shower to replace our rubbish
bath. Can you suggest for that too? I saw one in Argos ( shower base
and enclosure) and it had good reviews but husband said that Argos
write their own reviews and pretend they are consumers. Is this
correct?
The shower will be my birthday present.

On reading all your recent posts, it seems to me that what you want for
Christmas is a new *husband*!
--
Cheers,
Roger

Considering the OPs earlier posts about her husband I agree.

Adam

ARWadsworth wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
whiskeyomega wrote:

Sorry, me again. I also need a cheap shower to replace our rubbish
bath. Can you suggest for that too? I saw one in Argos ( shower
base and enclosure) and it had good reviews but husband said that
Argos write their own reviews and pretend they are consumers. Is
this correct?
The shower will be my birthday present.

On reading all your recent posts, it seems to me that what you want
for Christmas is a new *husband*!
--
Cheers,
Roger

Considering the OPs earlier posts about her husband I agree.

He seems to be the biggest problem in your life - get rid of him. This is
not a rehersal.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"whiskeyomega" @invalid
wibbled on Monday 21 December 2009 09:23

Sorry, me again. I also need a cheap shower to replace our rubbish bath.
Can
you suggest for that too? I saw one in Argos ( shower base and enclosure)
and it had good reviews but husband said that Argos write their own
reviews and pretend they are consumers. Is this correct?

No entirely. I've written a review and had it show up. Of course that
doesn't mean they aren't "loading" the review site - that would be
incredibly hard to verify. But I have seen a fair few negative comments so
some of the reviews at least are likely genuine.

The shower will be my birthday present.

Personally, I would do a wider bit of research. The shower would take some
amount of time/money/effort to install so it is worth buying a decent one.

The first thing to do is set some parameters.

Is there an existing electric shower or wiring for one? If so, what is the
current (amps) setting on the breaker/fuse? Showers come in various power
ratings from about 7.5kW (will have a dreadfully feeble but usable flow) to
10.5kW or more which will be fairly decent.

7.5kw means 7500/230(V) = 32A circuit (just)

10.5kw means 10500/230 = 45A circuit.

The circuit must be protected by an RCD (earth leakage breaker) or RCBO
(combined "fuse" and RCD). This can be put in a small add-on box if there's
no room in the consumer unit.

Some showers are very simple - you adjust temperature by adjusting the flow
rate. Other people using taps *may* affect the temperature of your shower,
depending on plumbing.

Fancier and more expensive showers would regulate the temperature properly
avoiding this problem, though these are much rarer beasts.

eg:

http://www.applied-energy.com/en/red...cts/range/1814
Which is truely thermostatically controlled and operates over a wide range
of mains water pressures (0.7 to 10 bar).

Do you have excessively high or low water pressure - some showers cannot
cope with more than 6 bar and there are houses operating at higher pressures
(mine included).

If you go all the way to this:

http://www.tlc-
direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Showers_Index/Showers/Triton_T300SI_Wireless/index.html

You can simplify the plumbing and wiring considerably as the shower unit is
in the loft or a cupboard in the next room.

Don't forget that you need a double pole shower isolator pull cord somewhere
suitable in the bathroom or nearby (or DP wall switch if outside the
bathroom).

On an aside, have a look here for some bits about bathroom electrics:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...room_Electrics

Having decided on "fancy vs non-fancy" and the power level, personally I
would look at some with known names, eg Triton, Redring. Sure others will
suggest some additional makes.

Then it's pretty much down to budget. Will the electrics and plumbing be
done by professionals? If so, extra money on a quality shower may be a small
incremental increase.

HTH

Tim

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Tim W
wibbled on Monday 21 December 2009 10:29


Sorry - I misread that, I think... You wanted a "shower enclosure" rather
than a shower?

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"Tim W" wrote in message
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Tim W
wibbled on Monday 21 December 2009 10:29


Sorry - I misread that, I think... You wanted a "shower enclosure" rather
than a shower?

Yes, a shower enclosure. There is a shower in place already.

Tim W wrote:
"whiskeyomega" @invalid
wibbled on Monday 21 December 2009 09:23

Sorry, me again. I also need a cheap shower to replace our rubbish bath.
Can
you suggest for that too? I saw one in Argos ( shower base and enclosure)
and it had good reviews but husband said that Argos write their own
reviews and pretend they are consumers. Is this correct?

No entirely. I've written a review and had it show up. Of course that
doesn't mean they aren't "loading" the review site - that would be
incredibly hard to verify. But I have seen a fair few negative comments so
some of the reviews at least are likely genuine.

The shower will be my birthday present.

Personally, I would do a wider bit of research. The shower would take some
amount of time/money/effort to install so it is worth buying a decent one.

The first thing to do is set some parameters.

Is there an existing electric shower or wiring for one? If so, what is the
current (amps) setting on the breaker/fuse? Showers come in various power
ratings from about 7.5kW (will have a dreadfully feeble but usable flow) to
10.5kW or more which will be fairly decent.

7.5kw means 7500/230(V) = 32A circuit (just)

10.5kw means 10500/230 = 45A circuit.

The circuit must be protected by an RCD (earth leakage breaker) or RCBO
(combined "fuse" and RCD). This can be put in a small add-on box if there's
no room in the consumer unit.

Some showers are very simple - you adjust temperature by adjusting the flow
rate. Other people using taps *may* affect the temperature of your shower,
depending on plumbing.

Fancier and more expensive showers would regulate the temperature properly
avoiding this problem, though these are much rarer beasts.

eg:

http://www.applied-energy.com/en/red...cts/range/1814
Which is truely thermostatically controlled and operates over a wide range
of mains water pressures (0.7 to 10 bar).

Do you have excessively high or low water pressure - some showers cannot
cope with more than 6 bar and there are houses operating at higher pressures
(mine included).

If you go all the way to this:

http://www.tlc-
direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Showers_Index/Showers/Triton_T300SI_Wireless/index.html

You can simplify the plumbing and wiring considerably as the shower unit is
in the loft or a cupboard in the next room.

Don't forget that you need a double pole shower isolator pull cord somewhere
suitable in the bathroom or nearby (or DP wall switch if outside the
bathroom).

On an aside, have a look here for some bits about bathroom electrics:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...room_Electrics

Having decided on "fancy vs non-fancy" and the power level, personally I
would look at some with known names, eg Triton, Redring. Sure others will
suggest some additional makes.

Then it's pretty much down to budget. Will the electrics and plumbing be
done by professionals? If so, extra money on a quality shower may be a small
incremental increase.

HTH

Tim

When you talk of showers I assume a cabinet in the bathroom, probably
replacing the bath, which is connected to the ordinary hot and cold
water supplies. These need a plumber and builder to install and will
cost you, in NZ, at least $2000 all up. You do the conversion. There
are gas heated gizmos which screw onto the wall but need both gas and
water supplies. There are also be electrically heated gizmos that do
the same job but not as well. If you have the money and co-operation
toss out the bath and install a proper plumbed in shower. Operating
costs are less than those of a bath and they are much more pleasant to use.

R

"whiskeyomega" wrote:

Sorry, me again. I also need a cheap shower to replace our rubbish bath. Can
you suggest for that too? I saw one in Argos ( shower base and enclosure)
and it had good reviews but husband said that Argos write their own reviews
and pretend they are consumers. Is this correct?

The bathroom equipment I have had from Argos has been of very poor
quality, so I wouldnt buy a shower surround from them unless you can see
it first.

I've had 3 enclosures from these people:
http://www.bathroomevolution.co.uk/cat--Showers--Showers.html

All have been good quality, and no missing/broken parts.

This one is my favourite, and looks really good when fitted:
http://www.bathroomevolution.co.uk/i...meless-Pentago
nal-shower-enclosure-+-free-tray--F-314_800.html


Alan.

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"whiskeyomega" writes:
Sorry, me again. I also need a cheap shower to replace our rubbish bath. Can
you suggest for that too? I saw one in Argos ( shower base and enclosure)
and it had good reviews but husband said that Argos write their own reviews
and pretend they are consumers. Is this correct?

The shower will be my birthday present.

Easiest way (cheapest because of least labour) would be to fit
a shower over your bath, and add a shower curtain or a shower
screen which hinges out of the way if you don't want it there
all the time. Also get an anti-slip shower mat.

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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
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In article ,
"whiskeyomega" writes:


The shower will be my birthday present.

Easiest way (cheapest because of least labour) would be to fit
a shower over your bath, and add a shower curtain or a shower
screen which hinges out of the way if you don't want it there
all the time. Also get an anti-slip shower mat.

I have a shower over the bath. I want rid of the cr*p avacado bath ( I would
like to get rid of the lot but OH says that is wasteful since it is "good
and works". Good eco warrior as he is, if it works , you cant have new.

The bath is stained. I can never get it clean. I hate the colour. I would
like a new one. He wont change the bath but did say I could have a shower in
place of it ( so that when I become infirm I wont have to leg over the bath
and possibly fall down). I have taken the offer because its the best I will
get.

He will fix it. He can do this. It was his job.

I am not allowed a new shower. We have a red ring ( 15+ years old) over the
bath) which can be used . I cam allowed no more than £500 including all
fittings/ wastes etc. for this shower unit.

whiskeyomega wrote:

He wont change the bath but did say I could have a
shower in place of it ( so that when I become infirm I wont have to leg
over the bath and possibly fall down).

Blimey, didn't you say elsewhere that you're only 50? That's younger
than my mum, and she's not an "old person" in need of bathing adaptation
any time soon.

Afraid I don't have any specific advice on shower cubicles, but good
luck with the project and I second most of the advice and opinions on
your recalcitrant boat-anchor of an OH.

Pete

whiskeyomega wrote:

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"whiskeyomega" writes:


The shower will be my birthday present.

Easiest way (cheapest because of least labour) would be to fit
a shower over your bath, and add a shower curtain or a shower
screen which hinges out of the way if you don't want it there
all the time. Also get an anti-slip shower mat.

I have a shower over the bath. I want rid of the cr*p avacado bath ( I
would like to get rid of the lot but OH says that is wasteful since it
is "good and works". Good eco warrior as he is, if it works , you cant
have new.

The bath is stained. I can never get it clean. I hate the colour. I
would like a new one. He wont change the bath but did say I could have a
shower in place of it ( so that when I become infirm I wont have to leg
over the bath and possibly fall down). I have taken the offer because
its the best I will get.

He will fix it. He can do this. It was his job.

I am not allowed a new shower. We have a red ring ( 15+ years old) over
the bath) which can be used . I cam allowed no more than £500 including
all fittings/ wastes etc. for this shower unit.

Try a shub. It has the footprint of a shower and stands half the height
of a bath. You can sit in the thing at a pinch.

R

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Roger Dewhurst
saying something like:

I am not allowed a new shower. We have a red ring ( 15+ years old) over
the bath) which can be used . I cam allowed no more than £500 including
all fittings/ wastes etc. for this shower unit.

Try a shub. It has the footprint of a shower and stands half the height
of a bath. You can sit in the thing at a pinch.

Sounds like a job for a Sh'tower.