On Nov 30, 9:55*pm, "Cash"
wrote:
geoff wrote:
In message , Peter smith
writes
Much to my horror I came home to my front door in a state. Someone
had tried levering the door wrecking the front door wood a bit,
still in tgact but will be changed.

The door has a yale lock (cyclinder bit) and a 5 lever yale mortice
lock. I'm planning on contacting a carpenter to put a new door up and
will
varnish it etc.

A couple of questions after having the scare of my life with this.

Werll the security on the door prevented then getting in,

What a silly question

Not for someone who doesn't know about such things surely? *We cannot be
perfect in everything we do - including you!

If they have a tank, no, if they throw a tissue at it , yes

There are those that think a rimlock is the 'state of the art' security
device - simply because the know no better, and I'm sure that you are
lacking knowledge in some areas which would cause you to ask some apparently
stupid question - and I wonder what your response would be when given
answers like that?

Now can you actually answer the OP with some sensible advice?

There is a grey area in between which depends on the quality of the
security door and the determination of the burglar

There is no "grey area" - if the burglar can find an easier target he or she
will - if he or she wants what's in that particular *house, they will gain
entry - regardless of the security on a that property.

is there anything else I can add to the front door security to make
it less attractive to have a go.

Move to a less pikey area

Not all "pikey's" are burglars, the *******s that did us over weren't - they
were in fact locals , and fairly near-neighbours to boot!

Also do carpenters fit the new locks, letter box, peep hole etc to
the new door ?

Why not ask the carpenters ?

There's a useful answer there *- somewhere - because not all (so-called)
carpenters are aware of such things, or even qualified to do so! *I've seen
some barely able to fit a replacement yale lock - let alone a door with all
the security devices.

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Best insurance is 'good neighbours'. Who know you and your life style!
And movements.

We don't socialise with our neighbours very often except for an oft-
nightly cuppa and biscuits, but our very good neighbours opposite
(about 100+ feet) and ourselves keep watch on each others house.
Especially when one is away. And it has quite salutary effect, it
seems, if one, seeing a stranger or delivery person knocking at the
other door, goes out and asks if one can take a message for the
neighbour "Who will be back shortly"! And/or "Can I sign for
something?".

One device we use is a baby monitor with which we listen to the other
house while the other family is away.
We also installed an alarm system with a horn which can be heard over
the baby monitor. And at times one can hear the electric heaters or
the other fridge cut in! Our alarm system only activated once when an
alarmed door was inadvertently opened!

We also leave the remote with our neighbours and they turn on our
porch lights when they arrive home and make sure they do it at
different times!

I also thought about, but did not, finally, extend my alarm sytem to
my vehicle parked in the driveway to blow it's horn if and when the
house alarm triggered. that would have involved a modification to one
of the two key fobs that came with the vehicle.

My neighbour knowing that we were a somewhat computer literate family
also told people locally that we had cameras located so that we were
monitoring and recording activity in and around the house back to
wherever we happened to be world wide!

We also make it be known that we never have anything valuable in the
house; no money or valuables, also that we are 'stingy' (well 'frugal'
anyway!) so we don't own anything that's worthwhile stealing! The
kitchen stove is our, at least third used etc. The fridge around 30
years? The TV was well used when we got it over five years ago and
fixed it for $4! The couple of computers were long ago home assembled
using various bits and the furniture is 20 to 40 years old!
Comfortable and long paid for. And hey it all works! Got two printers
recently for zero and one cam with ink cartridges for an existing
printer; fixed that printer with match stick other day so all is well!

A more affluent friend of our daughter has a house and contents
probably valued at half a million plus (that'd be over a million in
UK!) a few minutes out of town Big house, several; large TVs, three
vehicles etc. and has some 'art work'; so is always looking for a
house sitter when away!

Peter smith wrote:
Much to my horror I came home to my front door in a state. Someone had
tried levering the door wrecking the front door wood a bit, still in
tgact but will be changed.

The door has a yale lock (cyclinder bit) and a 5 lever yale mortice lock.

I'm planning on contacting a carpenter to put a new door up and will
varnish it etc.

A couple of questions after having the scare of my life with this.

Werll the security on the door prevented then getting in, is there
anything else I can add to the front door security to make it less
attractive to have a go.

Also do carpenters fit the new locks, letter box, peep hole etc to the
new door ?

I've got a day off tommorow thankfully so I can call around but I
thought someone here might have some experience in this.

Really was a scare at the thought someone could have got in and done god
knows what and stole my personal things.

Thanks

Dog/ hinge bolts on the hinge side.
5 lever mortice low down and at higher level to prevent kicking in as
well as shoulder charging. Consider rack bolts top and bottom.

On 30 Nov, 21:19, Peter smith
wrote:
Much to my horror I came home to my front door in a state. Someone had
tried levering the door wrecking the front door wood a bit, still in
tgact but will be changed.

The door has a yale lock (cyclinder bit) and a 5 lever yale mortice lock.

I'm planning on contacting a carpenter to put a new door up and will
varnish it etc.

A couple of questions after having the scare of my life with this.

Werll the security on the door prevented then getting in, is there
anything else I can add to the front door security to make it less
attractive to have a go.

Also do carpenters fit the new locks, letter box, peep hole etc to the
new door ?

I've got a day off tommorow thankfully so I can call around but I
thought someone here might have some experience in this.

Really was a scare at the thought someone could have got in and done god
knows what and stole my personal things.

Thanks

Second the hinge bolt suggestion , and three hinges, with all the
screws in them thanks.

Lower mortice is good as well, its the kick zone.

Frame is what gave up time Fire Brigade had to make entry to flat,
next doors panel door split in the middle, Firemans description was
`we had to give it a little push`

Get the repair inset in the frame and screwed right though into wall
behind.

Lights and sound , signs of occupancy even when there is none,
timeswitches and radios left on.

Cheers
Adam

On 30 Nov, 21:19, Peter smith
wrote:
Much to my horror I came home to my front door in a state. Someone had
tried levering the door wrecking the front door wood a bit, still in
tgact but will be changed.

The door has a yale lock (cyclinder bit) and a 5 lever yale mortice lock.

I'm planning on contacting a carpenter to put a new door up and will
varnish it etc.

A couple of questions after having the scare of my life with this.

Werll the security on the door prevented then getting in, is there
anything else I can add to the front door security to make it less
attractive to have a go.

Also do carpenters fit the new locks, letter box, peep hole etc to the
new door ?

I've got a day off tommorow thankfully so I can call around but I
thought someone here might have some experience in this.

Really was a scare at the thought someone could have got in and done god
knows what and stole my personal things.

Thanks

"Multisecure"
four point fixing top bottom and both sides
Lock side with three fixing bolts
very very secure
chris