Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.

TIA

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Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.

TIA


My neighbour had his 4 bed detached done a couple of years ago by one of the
big 'chains' and it cost him over 4 grand. Neighbour across the road had a
similar sized house done a few months ago, and paid about the same to a
local outfit. I've just had mine done, which is a quite large 5 bed
detached, and that cost me 3 grand to a pair of 'characters', but they are
ones that we know well, and the standard of work and materials was actually
very good. As far as I can tell, they keep their prices down by totally
ignoring elfin safety procedures. They are like a pair of monkeys, using
only ladders. The people who did the guy across the road's house, had a full
set of scaffolding put up, and it took them the better part of a week to do.
I would guess that the cost of the scaffolding alone, would be significant.

I have been told that some of the cheapo outfits that are doing this work,
only clad the existing boards, or don't replace the soffits. Also, there are
different qualities of boards, and of the replacement felting, that goes
under the first couple of rows of tiles, and should be fitted as part of the
job, so your friends should be aware of all that, and keep an eye on how the
job is being done. My neighbour also said that there are different ways that
the corner joins are handled, and some are much better looking than others.
He is a pedantic bugger and insisted on inspecting how mine had been done.
He assured me that they had been done the 'proper' way, whatever that is,
and that he approved of the quality of the whole job !

Arfa

Arfa

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:55:26 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
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Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.

TIA


My neighbour had his 4 bed detached done a couple of years ago by one of the
big 'chains' and it cost him over 4 grand. Neighbour across the road had a
similar sized house done a few months ago, and paid about the same to a
local outfit. I've just had mine done, which is a quite large 5 bed
detached, and that cost me 3 grand to a pair of 'characters', but they are
ones that we know well, and the standard of work and materials was actually
very good. As far as I can tell, they keep their prices down by totally
ignoring elfin safety procedures. They are like a pair of monkeys, using
only ladders. The people who did the guy across the road's house, had a full
set of scaffolding put up, and it took them the better part of a week to do.
I would guess that the cost of the scaffolding alone, would be significant.

I have been told that some of the cheapo outfits that are doing this work,
only clad the existing boards, or don't replace the soffits. Also, there are
different qualities of boards, and of the replacement felting, that goes
under the first couple of rows of tiles, and should be fitted as part of the
job, so your friends should be aware of all that, and keep an eye on how the
job is being done. My neighbour also said that there are different ways that
the corner joins are handled, and some are much better looking than others.
He is a pedantic bugger and insisted on inspecting how mine had been done.
He assured me that they had been done the 'proper' way, whatever that is,
and that he approved of the quality of the whole job !

Arfa

Arfa


Thanks for the info.
It sounds like they're charging near the going rate then, rather than
10x the real cost, which is what I was worried about.

The main problem was these 'characters' claimed they would finish the
work before needing any payment (great sales technique!)
However, once they'd started they asked for money for materials and
started adding 'little extras' which seemed to be way overpriced.

As you say all this being done off one ladder. I'm sure H&S wouldn't
approve.

It's sad when older people get like this. I thought they had more
sense than to give work to total strangers calling at the front door.

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:33:32 +0000, wrote:

Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.

TIA

Had mine done in the summer.

Including drainpipe front and back, that stuff they stick under the
lowest tiles to go into the guttering, and all facias.

£560 took three hours and they came back last month to see if we had
any problems.

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:25:30 GMT, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:33:32 +0000, wrote:

Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.

TIA

Had mine done in the summer.

Including drainpipe front and back, that stuff they stick under the
lowest tiles to go into the guttering, and all facias.

£560 took three hours and they came back last month to see if we had
any problems.

Drat! I don't know how this compares with the work the other poster
described or the one I'm asking about.
However, my rough guess puts the materals alone at £3-400 and took
about 2.5 - 3 days to put up. So I hope we're talking about different
things!

Thanks for posting.

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Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.

TIA


I paid £1100 and it was finished within 2 days. That included the removal
of all the old wood,
and the gutters and pipes etc. Looks quite good. That's for the same size
house.

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Had mine done in the summer.

Including drainpipe front and back, that stuff they stick under the
lowest tiles to go into the guttering, and all facias.

£560 took three hours and they came back last month to see if we had
any problems.

Too be fair, if it only took 3 hours it can't have been much needing to
be done. It was extremely quick and extremely cheap.

Relative and I did ours a few weeks ago - 3 bed semi. Cost £155 for
materials and took a full weekend (gutters, fall pipes, soffits and
facias), starting with nil experience, one double extension and a
single (which was only useful to get on the bit of flat roof at the
rear).

It is neat and professional (according to a pro) plus looks a better
job than has been done on other similar houses around us. We were
quoted figures between £1200 to 1700 to do it.

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

used his keyboard to write :
Drat! I don't know how this compares with the work the other poster
described or the one I'm asking about.
However, my rough guess puts the materals alone at £3-400 and took
about 2.5 - 3 days to put up. So I hope we're talking about different
things!

I think the difficulties of the various house styles and sizes can make
huge differences in the cost. All of the matial suppliers sell pretty
much the same stuff, the same quality, the finished job quality depends
mostly on the installer and there are a lot of cowboys in this game.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:52:09 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Too be fair, if it only took 3 hours it can't have been much needing to
be done. It was extremely quick and extremely cheap.

It was manpower. The firm specialise in this and had people running up
and down ladders like mice, with the boss glowering at them.

They collected half a dozen others down the street and were here a
couple of days in total. The boss was very happy.

I was happy because my house matches the attached one.

)

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Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.

TIA


I paid £1100 and it was finished within 2 days. That included the removal
of all the old wood,
and the gutters and pipes etc. Looks quite good. That's for the same
size house.



If it's any guide, there were four gable ends to deal with on mine, and it
took them 21 lengths of the stuff to complete the job, and a LOT of gutter /
downpipe. I would think that is about twice the amount used on my neighbour
across the street's house. It took them half a day to strip the old off, and
one whole day and a couple of hours of the next day to complete the job. All
removed stuff taken away. Most of the time, just two lads working on it.
Occasionally three, and once for an hour or so, the lad driving the disposal
truck helped for an hour. Also, as someone else said, the boss (one of the
'characters') was back and forth and used our house - with my permission I
might add - to sell his services to others in the street, whom he brought up
at regular intervals to see the standard of work, and to get me to verify
that I had known him and his mate for some time ...

I was happy to oblige in exchange for the price I got on the job. I won't
even begin to tell you the resulting price I got on the window replacements,
which finished up all being rolled up in the same deal ... :-)

Arfa

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Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.


In 2001, we paid about 2 Grand to Everest to have this done, and it was a
complicated job that needed a scaffolding tower in a neighbours garden
because there was no easy access to the soffits above a lean-to with
polycarbonate roof.

This was a 3 bed semi. The old soffits and fascias were made from asbestos
and they properly bagged and took that away as well. We were well pleased
with the job and were expecting it to be a LOT more expensive!

On Nov 2, 4:33*pm, wrote:
Hi all,

how much would you expect to be quoted to replace the guttering and
facias on a 3-bed semi with a single-storey garage?

I know some people who have a couple of 'characters' doing this work
and I'm wondering if they're being ripped off and, if so, by how much.

TIA

We paid about £1,000 for a local small company that did this. They
rushed it, did it badly and used ladders everywhere instead of
scaffolding.

One problem with ladders (apart from the H+S) is that they cut all the
parts into managable lengths so they could lift them more safely.
That left more joints than there needed to be.

Robert

RobertL used his keyboard to write :
One problem with ladders (apart from the H+S) is that they cut all the
parts into managable lengths so they could lift them more safely.
That left more joints than there needed to be.

You have to cut the sophits into very short bits to fit them, but not
the gutters or facias. I did both sides of our semi full lengths with
just one ladder. What I did was bang a nail into the timber at the far
end of the run and used yhe nail as hook from which to lift the facia
and take the weight while it was fixed. Got all the facia in place,
then fitted gutter brackets using a tight string line to get them in
line with the correct fall. Once the brackets are in place, you can
just drop the gutter in the brackets as full lengths. Sophits are just
done in 18" or so wide bits anyway, so there is no problem handling
them.

Cutting it unecessarily would indicate someone who has never tackled it
before.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:55:58 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

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Drat! I don't know how this compares with the work the other poster
described or the one I'm asking about.
However, my rough guess puts the materals alone at £3-400 and took
about 2.5 - 3 days to put up. So I hope we're talking about different
things!

I think the difficulties of the various house styles and sizes can make
huge differences in the cost. All of the matial suppliers sell pretty
much the same stuff, the same quality, the finished job quality depends
mostly on the installer and there are a lot of cowboys in this game.

Turns out the buggers have done a botched job and missed out some of
the work anyway. Luckily the last payment was by cheque, so that's
been cancelled. A professional has been round and said the whole job
should have been less than £900 and what they've done is crap! (my
estimate at materials was way off)
Police and Trading Standards have been informed.
Hopefully they'll never be seen again.

Anyone know how to persuade OAPs NOT to open their door?
I've suggested nailing it shut (bad for H&S) or adding several more
chains (but they just undo them before opening the door anyway!)