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HI Folks

As part of a week-long Food Festival out here in South-west Ireland,
we're holding a family-fund-day-cum-open-air-market event.

As part of the 'craft' attractions, I'm hoping to be able to demonstrate
my stained-glass work.

If all goes to plan, my stall will be backed up against the wall of a
building with mains power, so I was hoping to sneak an extension lead in
through a window and get my mains that way.

As the building in question is Council-owned, there's a good chance that
there may be 'elfin-safety' discussions - so - to avoid being scuppered
by these - what's the consensus on how best to show that the temporaty
installation is safe ? Something simple like a plug-in RCD at the
'inside' end of the cable ??

Power requirements are tiny - 80W for a soldering iron and maybe 100W
for a small grinder.. Providing an earth at the outside end of the cable
might be a challenge as it's a tarmaced car park!

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As the building in question is Council-owned, there's a good chance that
there may be 'elfin-safety' discussions - so - to avoid being scuppered
by these - what's the consensus on how best to show that the temporaty
installation is safe ? Something simple like a plug-in RCD at the
'inside' end of the cable ??


Yes.

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Adrian Brentnall wrote:
HI Folks

As part of a week-long Food Festival out here in South-west Ireland,
we're holding a family-fund-day-cum-open-air-market event.

As part of the 'craft' attractions, I'm hoping to be able to
demonstrate my stained-glass work.

If all goes to plan, my stall will be backed up against the wall of a
building with mains power, so I was hoping to sneak an extension lead
in through a window and get my mains that way.

As the building in question is Council-owned, there's a good chance
that there may be 'elfin-safety' discussions - so - to avoid being
scuppered by these - what's the consensus on how best to show that
the temporaty installation is safe ? Something simple like a plug-in
RCD at the 'inside' end of the cable ??

Power requirements are tiny - 80W for a soldering iron and maybe 100W
for a small grinder.. Providing an earth at the outside end of the
cable might be a challenge as it's a tarmaced car park!

A covered stall?

As someone involved in an annual carnival on council property, the Elfins go
OTT here and stipulate all sorts of nonsense in a contract we have to sign
prior to the event, which we do comply with!. If you ask them, they are
likely to stipulate that all equipment be PAT tested and comply to BSXYZ (or
local equivalent).

"Sneaking" in a lead with the RCD seems a suitable solution since it is not
critical to your stall.

If asked during the event, feign innocence!


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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Adrian Brentnall wrote:
As the building in question is Council-owned, there's a good chance that
there may be 'elfin-safety' discussions - so - to avoid being scuppered
by these - what's the consensus on how best to show that the temporaty
installation is safe ? Something simple like a plug-in RCD at the
'inside' end of the cable ??


Yes.

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Adrian Brentnall wrote:
HI Folks

As part of a week-long Food Festival out here in South-west Ireland,
we're holding a family-fund-day-cum-open-air-market event.

As part of the 'craft' attractions, I'm hoping to be able to
demonstrate my stained-glass work.

If all goes to plan, my stall will be backed up against the wall of a
building with mains power, so I was hoping to sneak an extension lead
in through a window and get my mains that way.

As the building in question is Council-owned, there's a good chance
that there may be 'elfin-safety' discussions - so - to avoid being
scuppered by these - what's the consensus on how best to show that
the temporaty installation is safe ? Something simple like a plug-in
RCD at the 'inside' end of the cable ??

Power requirements are tiny - 80W for a soldering iron and maybe 100W
for a small grinder.. Providing an earth at the outside end of the
cable might be a challenge as it's a tarmaced car park!

A covered stall?


Yes - standard 'slot together' market stall with ginormous tarpaulin
(back end supported by a handy Morris Traveller!) - and probably
attached to the woodcarving guy who's next in line...


As someone involved in an annual carnival on council property, the Elfins go
OTT here and stipulate all sorts of nonsense in a contract we have to sign
prior to the event, which we do comply with!. If you ask them, they are
likely to stipulate that all equipment be PAT tested and comply to BSXYZ (or
local equivalent).


Let's hope they don't want that done - though the grinder is CE-marked
and double-insulated, one of the soldering irons is running on 110v and
is USA-approved rather than CE-approved. They'd probably have a field
day with my somewhat ad-hoc 240 - 110 transformer.... - maybe best to
hide it in a box!

Anyway - the powered kit isn't accessible to the public .....
and I do have my 6.5-million-euro public liabilty insurance..


"Sneaking" in a lead with the RCD seems a suitable solution since it is not
critical to your stall.

If asked during the event, feign innocence!


I always go for ignorance, myself g
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