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Next door, who rents and myself, bought, are contemplating replacing the
wire link fence between us as a joint venture. Looking at a wooden fence
closer to the houses, it looks like the fence belongs to the owner of
the rented property. The posts are on her side of the fence.

Two questions...

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original
posts were put in the ground around early 1978.

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the future?

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Next door, who rents and myself, bought, are contemplating replacing the
wire link fence between us as a joint venture. Looking at a wooden fence
closer to the houses, it looks like the fence belongs to the owner of
the rented property. The posts are on her side of the fence.

Two questions...

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original
posts were put in the ground around early 1978.


Something like this?

http://www.alton-gardencentre.co.uk/...cm-x-183cm.php

That's 3' high.

A quick trip to the garden centre could be in order - those guys often
deliver.

For more privacy you can get verticals on both sides, offset, which also
make a better wind buffer than flat panels (slow the wind rather than
create turbulance).

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the
future?

Dave


Only if one or the other of you gets all numpty and legal down the line. It
could I suppose cause an argument when it falls down as to who gets to
replace it. Might be easier to agree that the current notional fence owner
remains so, if you happen to know that? Or just arrange that the posts go
on the side of the person who's willing to take sole charge of it should
things go pear shaped.

Make a verbal agreement now at least and at least you'll have something to
fall back on. Legal people might have a different opinion but I'd go with a
certain amount of common sense unless you like paying solicitors

Nice when people can cooperate in a shared interest

Cheers

Tim

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On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:18:12 +0100, Tim S wrote:
Dave coughed up some electrons that declared:

Next door, who rents and myself, bought, are contemplating replacing the
wire link fence between us as a joint venture. Looking at a wooden fence
closer to the houses, it looks like the fence belongs to the owner of
the rented property. The posts are on her side of the fence.

Two questions...

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original
posts were put in the ground around early 1978.


Something like this?

http://www.alton-gardencentre.co.uk/...cm-x-183cm.php

That's 3' high.

A quick trip to the garden centre could be in order - those guys often
deliver.

For more privacy you can get verticals on both sides, offset, which also
make a better wind buffer than flat panels (slow the wind rather than
create turbulance).

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the
future?

Dave


Only if one or the other of you gets all numpty and legal down the line. It
could I suppose cause an argument when it falls down as to who gets to
replace it. Might be easier to agree that the current notional fence owner
remains so, if you happen to know that? Or just arrange that the posts go
on the side of the person who's willing to take sole charge of it should
things go pear shaped.

Make a verbal agreement now at least and at least you'll have something to
fall back on. Legal people might have a different opinion but I'd go with a
certain amount of common sense unless you like paying solicitors

Nice when people can cooperate in a shared interest

Cheers

Tim

By convention a side fence is the responsibility of _one_ of the neighbours - with
the other neighbour coughing up for the other fence on their other side and so-on
up/down the road. If I were in your position I'd check (possibly with another
neighbour on your other side, if there is one) what the local practice is. So far
as getting "numpty and legal" goes, don't forget it's not really your tenant
neighbour's decision, their landlord may want to have their say, too.
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So far as getting "numpty and legal"
goes, don't forget it's not really your tenant neighbour's decision, their
landlord may want to have their say, too.


A very good point...
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Dave wrote:

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original
posts were put in the ground around early 1978.


A neighbour has just put up some of

http://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/pa...&fmc=AA&fnc=CD

Looks very nice...and I'm impressed with other jacksons stuff (they are
local to me which helps - but they deliver country wide I think)

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the future?


Surely it's actually the landlords fence? They may have a view (they may
well not care if they are getting a new fence for free of course!)

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Tim S wrote:
Dave coughed up some electrons that declared:

Next door, who rents and myself, bought, are contemplating replacing the
wire link fence between us as a joint venture. Looking at a wooden fence
closer to the houses, it looks like the fence belongs to the owner of
the rented property. The posts are on her side of the fence.

Two questions...

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original
posts were put in the ground around early 1978.


Something like this?

http://www.alton-gardencentre.co.uk/...cm-x-183cm.php


Yes, I think that is what we are thinking about.

That's 3' high.

A quick trip to the garden centre could be in order - those guys often
deliver.


Since we already have the posts in the ground, I thought about getting
some treeted timber and creating the horizontals and fitting the
verticals myself. Shouldn't cost that much and we can make the fence a
little bit higher, say 4 foot.

For more privacy you can get verticals on both sides, offset, which also
make a better wind buffer than flat panels (slow the wind rather than
create turbulance).


It's not the privacy I am looking for, but the breakdown of the wind. I
did this on the fence at the other side of the garden many years ago and
it is in need of repair now.

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the
future?

Dave


Only if one or the other of you gets all numpty and legal down the line. It
could I suppose cause an argument when it falls down as to who gets to
replace it. Might be easier to agree that the current notional fence owner
remains so, if you happen to know that? Or just arrange that the posts go
on the side of the person who's willing to take sole charge of it should
things go pear shaped.

Make a verbal agreement now at least and at least you'll have something to
fall back on. Legal people might have a different opinion but I'd go with a
certain amount of common sense unless you like paying solicitors

Nice when people can cooperate in a shared interest


Many thanks for that

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On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:18:12 +0100, Tim S wrote:
Dave coughed up some electrons that declared:

Next door, who rents and myself, bought, are contemplating replacing the
wire link fence between us as a joint venture. Looking at a wooden fence
closer to the houses, it looks like the fence belongs to the owner of
the rented property. The posts are on her side of the fence.

Two questions...

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original
posts were put in the ground around early 1978.

Something like this?

http://www.alton-gardencentre.co.uk/...cm-x-183cm.php

That's 3' high.

A quick trip to the garden centre could be in order - those guys often
deliver.

For more privacy you can get verticals on both sides, offset, which also
make a better wind buffer than flat panels (slow the wind rather than
create turbulance).

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the
future?

Dave

Only if one or the other of you gets all numpty and legal down the line. It
could I suppose cause an argument when it falls down as to who gets to
replace it. Might be easier to agree that the current notional fence owner
remains so, if you happen to know that? Or just arrange that the posts go
on the side of the person who's willing to take sole charge of it should
things go pear shaped.

Make a verbal agreement now at least and at least you'll have something to
fall back on. Legal people might have a different opinion but I'd go with a
certain amount of common sense unless you like paying solicitors

Nice when people can cooperate in a shared interest

Cheers

Tim

By convention a side fence is the responsibility of _one_ of the neighbours - with
the other neighbour coughing up for the other fence on their other side and so-on
up/down the road. If I were in your position I'd check (possibly with another
neighbour on your other side, if there is one) what the local practice is. So far
as getting "numpty and legal" goes, don't forget it's not really your tenant
neighbour's decision, their landlord may want to have their say, too.


We have very good relations with them, I can't see them arguing about it.

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Dave wrote:

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original
posts were put in the ground around early 1978.


A neighbour has just put up some of

http://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/pa...&fmc=AA&fnc=CD


They look good, but I am not so sure they will do the job I want.

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the future?


Surely it's actually the landlords fence? They may have a view (they may
well not care if they are getting a new fence for free of course!)


Well, we got a very good fence off them when they fenced the path they
also own at the bottom of my garden. I complained and they turned round
and said that they wanted a continuous fence.

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Next door, who rents and myself, bought, are contemplating replacing the
wire link fence between us as a joint venture. Looking at a wooden fence
closer to the houses, it looks like the fence belongs to the owner of the
rented property. The posts are on her side of the fence.

Two questions...

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any higher
than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't fancy panels,
but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original posts were put
in the ground around early 1978.

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the
future?


I'm replacing the fence between us and the neighbour,both rent.
Landlord is paying for materials and I'm installing.
Satisfactory all round.


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They look good, but I am not so sure they will do the job I want.


heh, they do all the parts to make your own as well. Probably easier to
source locally though

Surely it's actually the landlords fence? They may have a view (they may
well not care if they are getting a new fence for free of course!)


Well, we got a very good fence off them when they fenced the path they
also own at the bottom of my garden. I complained and they turned round
and said that they wanted a continuous fence.


ah, fairy snuff

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Dave wrote:
Next door, who rents and myself, bought, are contemplating replacing the
wire link fence between us as a joint venture. Looking at a wooden fence
closer to the houses, it looks like the fence belongs to the owner of
the rented property. The posts are on her side of the fence.

Two questions...

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The original
posts were put in the ground around early 1978.

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the future?


You probably ought to look at the deeds of your properties - it's often
stated explicitly in there who owns the fences and who's responsible for
maintaining them. So I presume that if you go 50:50 on replacing the
existing one, then that doesn't change that. Might that be an issue
with a future owner of one of the properties?

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Dave wrote:
Next door, who rents and myself, bought, are contemplating replacing
the wire link fence between us as a joint venture. Looking at a wooden
fence closer to the houses, it looks like the fence belongs to the
owner of the rented property. The posts are on her side of the fence.

Two questions...

1 What would be the best fence to put up. I don't see it being any
higher than 4 foot, or it will block light into our garden? I don't
fancy panels, but more soething like verticals, spaced out. The
original posts were put in the ground around early 1978.

2 Will the common errection of the fence have any come backs in the
future?


You probably ought to look at the deeds of your properties - it's often
stated explicitly in there who owns the fences and who's responsible for
maintaining them. So I presume that if you go 50:50 on replacing the
existing one, then that doesn't change that. Might that be an issue
with a future owner of one of the properties?


The only problem with that, is that the deeds were so badly drawn up.
No. 28 is the house where we have agreed to re do the fence and it is
her landlords. We are No. 29 and the T on the deeds points to out lounge
wall that is the party wall with No. 30.

You couldn't make this up.

Dave
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