A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I
re-designed the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea
that were listed as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip (and
spent about 2 hours) to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy well
aren't 10mm thick - they come as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is 10mm, the
glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Dave

"NoSpam" wrote in message
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A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I re-designed
the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea that were listed
as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip (and spent about 2 hours)
to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy well aren't 10mm thick - they come
as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is 10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Dave

Have you tried a shopfitter, or a catering equipment supplier ? Most shop
shelves that are glass are 10mm toughened, and so is the glass in counter
display fridges, which often have shelves in them as well. If neither of
those has anything laying scrap up the corner of their warehouse that they
would sell you, they might be able to point you at a tame glass supplier
that they use.

Arfa

NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

I've had toughened glass (not that thick though, to be fair) from a
local upvc window supplier/fabricator. I can't recall what it cost me,
but it certainly wasn't prohibitive compared with the equivalent in
standard glass. Maybe you just need to keep looking?

David

Lobster wrote:
NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

I've had toughened glass (not that thick though, to be fair) from a
local upvc window supplier/fabricator. I can't recall what it cost me,
but it certainly wasn't prohibitive compared with the equivalent in
standard glass. Maybe you just need to keep looking?

David
Order what you want from your local glass supplier. They are a good
source of free info - e.g. the toughening fire polishes the edges so you
probably don't need to have them bevelled. It takes two or three days
as they have to be sent away to be toughened.

Malcolm

"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I re-designed
the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea that were listed
as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip (and spent about 2
hours) to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy well aren't 10mm thick -
they come as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is 10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm.
Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Glue the two together?
You can get super glue for glass *if* you can get them together without
trapping air.

Dave

Malcolm wrote:
Lobster wrote:
NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

I've had toughened glass (not that thick though, to be fair) from a
local upvc window supplier/fabricator. I can't recall what it cost
me, but it certainly wasn't prohibitive compared with the equivalent
in standard glass. Maybe you just need to keep looking?

David
Order what you want from your local glass supplier. They are a good
source of free info - e.g. the toughening fire polishes the edges so you
probably don't need to have them bevelled. It takes two or three days
as they have to be sent away to be toughened.

Malcolm

I was quoted £51 *per shelf* by my local glass supplier, a couple of
others suggested by people here when I last asked quoted £32 and £40.
Presumably it's so expensive because it's a special run so I was hoping
to find a source of "off the shelf" shelves. I need six or eight so 50
quid each is just a tad too high.

Dave

dennis@home wrote:


"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I
re-designed the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea
that were listed as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip
(and spent about 2 hours) to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy
well aren't 10mm thick - they come as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is
10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Glue the two together?
You can get super glue for glass *if* you can get them together without
trapping air.

Dave


Hmm, good lateral thinking but the front edge and much of the side edges
will be on display. I'm also going to put an LED strip along the back so
they need to be a single piece of glass.

D

"NoSpam" wrote in message
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dennis@home wrote:


"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I
re-designed the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea
that were listed as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip (and
spent about 2 hours) to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy well
aren't 10mm thick - they come as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is 10mm, the
glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Glue the two together?
You can get super glue for glass *if* you can get them together without
trapping air.

Dave


Hmm, good lateral thinking but the front edge and much of the side edges
will be on display. I'm also going to put an LED strip along the back so
they need to be a single piece of glass.

It wont have much effect on the leds.

Be even more lateral.. put a thin stainless steel sheet in between.
Then it will look nice and you can have two colours of leds.

NoSpam wrote:

dennis@home wrote:


"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I
re-designed the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea
that were listed as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip
(and spent about 2 hours) to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy
well aren't 10mm thick - they come as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is
10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Glue the two together?
You can get super glue for glass *if* you can get them together without
trapping air.

Dave


Hmm, good lateral thinking but the front edge and much of the side edges
will be on display. I'm also going to put an LED strip along the back so
they need to be a single piece of glass.


It seems that you want an unusual, high quality, one-off bespoke product
but are not prepared to pay for it.

£32 each for eight of these sounds like a reasonable price.

Bruce wrote:
NoSpam wrote:

dennis@home wrote:

"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I
re-designed the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea
that were listed as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip
(and spent about 2 hours) to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy
well aren't 10mm thick - they come as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is
10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?
Glue the two together?
You can get super glue for glass *if* you can get them together without
trapping air.
Dave
Hmm, good lateral thinking but the front edge and much of the side edges
will be on display. I'm also going to put an LED strip along the back so
they need to be a single piece of glass.


It seems that you want an unusual, high quality, one-off bespoke product
but are not prepared to pay for it.

£32 each for eight of these sounds like a reasonable price.


As I said earlier, I'm looking for an "off the shelf" shelf - i.e.
something that is not bespoke - because the bespoke price is
surprisingly high.

NoSpam wrote:
Bruce wrote:

It seems that you want an unusual, high quality, one-off bespoke product
but are not prepared to pay for it.

£32 each for eight of these sounds like a reasonable price.


As I said earlier, I'm looking for an "off the shelf" shelf - i.e.
something that is not bespoke - because the bespoke price is
surprisingly high.


Then you need to change your ideas to suit what is available at a price
that you are prepared to pay.

Bruce wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
Bruce wrote:
It seems that you want an unusual, high quality, one-off bespoke product
but are not prepared to pay for it.

£32 each for eight of these sounds like a reasonable price.

As I said earlier, I'm looking for an "off the shelf" shelf - i.e.
something that is not bespoke - because the bespoke price is
surprisingly high.


Then you need to change your ideas to suit what is available at a price
that you are prepared to pay.

Thanks for your advice

NoSpam wrote:
Bruce wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
Bruce wrote:
It seems that you want an unusual, high quality, one-off bespoke product
but are not prepared to pay for it.

£32 each for eight of these sounds like a reasonable price.

As I said earlier, I'm looking for an "off the shelf" shelf - i.e.
something that is not bespoke - because the bespoke price is
surprisingly high.


Then you need to change your ideas to suit what is available at a price
that you are prepared to pay.

Thanks for your advice


You're welcome. I take no pleasure seeing someone going round and round
in ever decreasing circles.

NoSpam wrote:

Malcolm wrote:
Lobster wrote:
NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

I was quoted £51 *per shelf* by my local glass supplier, a couple of
others suggested by people here when I last asked quoted £32 and £40.
Presumably it's so expensive because it's a special run so I was hoping
to find a source of "off the shelf" shelves. I need six or eight so 50
quid each is just a tad too high.

Those prices are about right. I paid £47 for a 6mm piece approx 600 x
500mm toughened.
This from the cheapest glass supplier I have ever found.
8 or 10mm is rather thicker than standard, plus you double the price for
toughened, so you wont get anything any cheaper IMO.
Alan.
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NoSpam wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Lobster wrote:
NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

I've had toughened glass (not that thick though, to be fair) from a
local upvc window supplier/fabricator. I can't recall what it cost
me, but it certainly wasn't prohibitive compared with the equivalent
in standard glass. Maybe you just need to keep looking?

David
Order what you want from your local glass supplier. They are a good
source of free info - e.g. the toughening fire polishes the edges so
you probably don't need to have them bevelled. It takes two or three
days as they have to be sent away to be toughened.

Malcolm

I was quoted £51 *per shelf* by my local glass supplier, a couple of
others suggested by people here when I last asked quoted £32 and £40.
Presumably it's so expensive because it's a special run so I was hoping
to find a source of "off the shelf" shelves. I need six or eight so 50
quid each is just a tad too high.

Dave
check out closing down or post winter sales in sheds.

You may find half a dozen 'bathroom shelves' of the rightish size..

Bruce wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
Bruce wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
Bruce wrote:
It seems that you want an unusual, high quality, one-off bespoke product
but are not prepared to pay for it.

�32 each for eight of these sounds like a reasonable price.

As I said earlier, I'm looking for an "off the shelf" shelf - i.e.
something that is not bespoke - because the bespoke price is
surprisingly high.


Then you need to change your ideas to suit what is available at a price
that you are prepared to pay.

Thanks for your advice


You're welcome. I take no pleasure seeing someone going round and round
in ever decreasing circles.


True enough. When I enquired about glass shelves the glazier
recommended non-toughened glass. I've little idea whether that would
be ok or not, just his say do. Certainly far cheaper.


NT

"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I re-designed
the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea that were listed
as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip (and spent about 2 hours)
to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy well aren't 10mm thick - they come
as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is 10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

ever thought of sticking 2 together?

wrote:

True enough. When I enquired about glass shelves the glazier
recommended non-toughened glass. I've little idea whether that would
be ok or not, just his say do. Certainly far cheaper.

There is some truth in that - toughened is very brittle on the edges -
tap it on the edge with a sharp object, and it shatters. Normal glass
wont be bothered by small taps.

The obvious downside using normal glass is that ii breaks into large
pieces, so possibly a stabbing hazard if it were to break.

Alan.
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R wrote:
"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I re-designed
the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea that were listed
as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip (and spent about 2 hours)
to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy well aren't 10mm thick - they come
as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is 10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

ever thought of sticking 2 together?

It's Groundhog Day

David

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:24:13 +0000, A.Lee wrote:

The obvious downside using normal glass is that ii breaks into large
pieces, so possibly a stabbing hazard if it were to break.

Agreed I'd not want normal glass for shelves for that very reason.

Is laminated an option?

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 23/02/2009 14:38 NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/Shelving/C...elf/invt/54534
near enough? They have others.

--
F

F wrote:
On 23/02/2009 14:38 NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/Shelving/C...elf/invt/54534
near enough? They have others.


Thanks for the suggestion but it's only 200 deep and the absolute
minimum depth I can cope with is 300, preferably a little more. They do
have one with a curved front but it's only 240 deep at max.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:24:13 +0000, A.Lee wrote:

The obvious downside using normal glass is that ii breaks into large
pieces, so possibly a stabbing hazard if it were to break.

Agreed I'd not want normal glass for shelves for that very reason.

Is laminated an option?


Probably not if you want to shine LEDs through it.

Lobster wrote:
R wrote:

ever thought of sticking 2 together?

It's Groundhog Day


Ever thought of sticking 2 together?

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:24:13 +0000, A.Lee wrote:

The obvious downside using normal glass is that ii breaks into large
pieces, so possibly a stabbing hazard if it were to break.

Agreed I'd not want normal glass for shelves for that very reason.

Is laminated an option?

Lam is particularly weak. If you want the safety effect on the bits
holding together when broken, which is all laminated offers, then
plain glass with a safety film on the underside would be much
stronger.


NT

NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?


Have you considered Perspex?

"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
F wrote:
On 23/02/2009 14:38 NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/Shelving/C...elf/invt/54534
near enough? They have others.


Thanks for the suggestion but it's only 200 deep and the absolute minimum
depth I can cope with is 300, preferably a little more. They do have one
with a curved front but it's only 240 deep at max.

Why not redesign the unit so the rear portion is wood?
Then you have somewhere to hide the wires and can recess the LEDs into it
better.
Something like two uprights with slots cut into it for the glass and a
wooden infill between about 100 mm deep to support the rear of the HiFi?

dennis@home wrote:


"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
F wrote:
On 23/02/2009 14:38 NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/Shelving/C...elf/invt/54534
near enough? They have others.


Thanks for the suggestion but it's only 200 deep and the absolute
minimum depth I can cope with is 300, preferably a little more. They
do have one with a curved front but it's only 240 deep at max.

Why not redesign the unit so the rear portion is wood?
Then you have somewhere to hide the wires and can recess the LEDs into
it better.
Something like two uprights with slots cut into it for the glass and a
wooden infill between about 100 mm deep to support the rear of the HiFi?

My initial idea was to build something like this
http://www.standsunique.com/productr...wall/index.htm so an in-fill
would not be possible, unless the top of the wall bracket spanned the
in-fill - I could weld-up something but I don't think the result would
look elegant. Having failed to find standard shelves and discovered the
cost of custom shelves I had moved-on to exactly what you suggest. The
amplifier is about 400mm deep (including cable space) and the outer
edges of the feet are 300mm apart, so realistically the minimum glass
depth is 300mm.
I've just noticed that the Ikea ÄNGA shelf is 10x550x300 (for £14.68)
but has a metal strip on the short edges - I'll buy one and see if I can
easily get the metal strip off.

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
Lobster wrote:
R wrote:

ever thought of sticking 2 together?

It's Groundhog Day


Ever thought of sticking 2 together?

Could stick 2 together

"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I re-designed
the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea that were listed
as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip (and spent about 2 hours)
to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy well aren't 10mm thick - they come
as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is 10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Dave

Thinking outside the box a bit again Dave, might something like this be of
any use ?

http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/avs...questid=474572

Arfa

Arfa Daily wrote:
"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
A while ago I asked about suppliers of toughened glass shelves, but
everywhere I went wanted an arm and both legs for specials. I re-designed
the project to use some "off the shelf" shelves from Ikea that were listed
as 600x350x10. Today I drove a 40 mile round trip (and spent about 2 hours)
to buy them and guess what - they bl**dy well aren't 10mm thick - they come
as a pack of 2 and the *pack* is 10mm, the glass is 4 or 5mm. Bl**dy Ikea!

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Dave

Thinking outside the box a bit again Dave, might something like this be of
any use ?

http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/avs...questid=474572

Arfa



A good try Arfa - thanks! I've had a look at a couple of similar things
but they're all too wide.

But - I think it's solved. There are three possible solutions now (if
anyone cares): the metal edging comes off the Ikea Anga shelves fairly
easily (and the edges are polished) so for £15 that's an easy answer, or
I got quite a good quote from ARB glass in Southampton (much cheaper
than anyonen else).
However, when I looked more closely at the Anga shelf it comes with a
sliding bracket so I think I can bolt this to a bit of vertical angle
(suitably painted/covered) and end-up with adjustable depth shelves.

Thanks for all the suggestions. As you were chaps!

D

NoSpam wrote:

I'm back to my original quest - where can I get some 8 or 10mm thick
toughened glass shelves (about 550x350) at a sensible price?

Don't suppose you're still looking, but I did notice in Homebase some
12mm thick glass shelves, I think 600x300 and 500x200 but can't see them
on their website.