I'm replacing PVC gutter on Victorian, wood fascia boards and was
planning to use stainless steel screws. But I can't find any stainless
roundhead wood screws from Screwfix which makes me think I've got it
wrong somewhere as it must surely be a common job. What is recommended
please?

Oh, and the fascia boards are well-attached and free from rot or major
splits but not thick so I was reckoning on 4x25mm and drilling pilot
holes. (There's scaffolding up for the replacement roof so for once I
won't feel the need for 3 hands.)
--
Robin

On 15 Jan, 07:12, "neverwas" wrote:
I'm replacing PVC gutter on Victorian, wood fascia boards and was
planning to use stainless steel screws. But I can't find any stainless
roundhead wood screws from Screwfix which makes me think I've got it
wrong somewhere as it must surely be a common job. *What is recommended
please?

Oh, and the fascia boards are well-attached and free from rot or major
splits but not thick so I was reckoning on 4x25mm and drilling pilot
holes. *(There's scaffolding up for the replacement roof so for once I
won't feel the need for 3 hands.)
--
Robin

These people will have what you want.

http://www.screwsline.co.uk/index.html

Rob

In article ,
neverwas wrote:
I'm replacing PVC gutter on Victorian, wood fascia boards and was
planning to use stainless steel screws. But I can't find any stainless
roundhead wood screws from Screwfix which makes me think I've got it
wrong somewhere as it must surely be a common job. What is recommended
please?

Suitable brass roundheads should be easy to find. You'll need to drill
the correct pilot hole for them, though.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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neverwas wrote:

I'm replacing PVC gutter on Victorian, wood fascia boards and was
planning to use stainless steel screws. But I can't find any stainless
roundhead wood screws from Screwfix which makes me think I've got it
wrong somewhere as it must surely be a common job. What is recommended
please?

I always use brass countersunk slot head screws for gutter clips.
Doesnt really matter about the length, so long as they are long enough,
there is a void behind the fascia, so longer screws wont push into
anything.
I dont think there is mush wrong with using decent coated steel screws
for such thnings, I've done a few gutters in the last year, and never
had much of a problem getting old corroded screws off, they usually can
be pulled out. They are quite well protected on most roofs, so dont
corrode as much as you'd think, though I'm sticking with the brass for
the time being - a good selling point to customers, but in reality,
there is little difference, especially if you put a dob of paint on each
screw head when they are fitted.
Alan.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
neverwas wrote:
I'm replacing PVC gutter on Victorian, wood fascia boards and was
planning to use stainless steel screws. But I can't find any
stainless roundhead wood screws from Screwfix which makes me think
I've got it wrong somewhere as it must surely be a common job. What
is recommended please?

Suitable brass roundheads should be easy to find. You'll need to drill
the correct pilot hole for them, though.

Need to be careful about the diameter of the brass screws though Dave
especially if living in a 'high' snow or wind area as the load pressures on
gutters can be heavy (although in this case, the plastic would probably
break first).

Cash

In message , A.Lee
writes
neverwas wrote:

I'm replacing PVC gutter on Victorian, wood fascia boards and was
planning to use stainless steel screws. But I can't find any stainless
roundhead wood screws from Screwfix which makes me think I've got it
wrong somewhere as it must surely be a common job. What is recommended
please?

I always use brass countersunk slot head screws for gutter clips.
Doesnt really matter about the length, so long as they are long enough,
there is a void behind the fascia, so longer screws wont push into
anything.
I dont think there is mush wrong with using decent coated steel screws
for such thnings, I've done a few gutters in the last year, and never
had much of a problem getting old corroded screws off, they usually can
be pulled out. They are quite well protected on most roofs, so dont
corrode as much as you'd think, though I'm sticking with the brass for
the time being - a good selling point to customers, but in reality,
there is little difference, especially if you put a dob of paint on each
screw head when they are fitted.

Hmm.. I put a stainless washer under the head if I am using counter sunk
head screws.

Screwfix do stainless pan head self tappers anyway.

regards

--
Tim Lamb

Thanks to all.

I'll start by trying traditional brass roundhead again since I've the
scaffolding to facilitate pilot holes and steel screws to cut the
thread. (Past minor repairs have shown the wood is a bit on the hard
side by my lowly standards).

But I'll also order some s/s just in case: they'll be a good excuse for
me to play some more with this d-i-y thingie.

--
Robin

On 15 Jan, 19:29, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , A.Lee
writes



neverwas wrote:

I'm replacing PVC gutter on Victorian, wood fascia boards and was
planning to use stainless steel screws. But I can't find any stainless
roundhead wood screws from Screwfix which makes me think I've got it
wrong somewhere as it must surely be a common job. *What is recommended
please?

I always use brass countersunk slot head screws for gutter clips.
Doesnt really matter about the length, so long as they are long enough,
there is a void behind the fascia, so longer screws wont push into
anything.
I dont think there is mush wrong with using decent coated steel screws
for such thnings, I've done a few gutters in the last year, and never
had much of a problem getting old corroded screws off, they usually can
be pulled out. They are quite well protected on most roofs, so dont
corrode as much as you'd think, though I'm sticking with the brass for
the time being - a good selling point to customers, but in reality,
there is little difference, especially if you put a dob of paint on each
screw head when they are fitted.

Hmm.. I put a stainless washer under the head if I am using counter sunk
head screws.

Screwfix do stainless pan head self tappers anyway.

regards

--
Tim Lamb

I would be a bit wary about doing that - I take it that this is under
a zinc plated wood screw. If you look at a Galvanic Table, zinc is
very anodic whereas most types of stainless steels are well into the
cathodic end of the table - agreed one or two are quite close to zinc
but how is one to know which type the washers are made of.

Rob

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,
robgraham writes
Hmm.. I put a stainless washer under the head if I am using counter sunk
head screws.

Screwfix do stainless pan head self tappers anyway.

regards

--
Tim Lamb

I would be a bit wary about doing that - I take it that this is under
a zinc plated wood screw. If you look at a Galvanic Table, zinc is
very anodic whereas most types of stainless steels are well into the
cathodic end of the table - agreed one or two are quite close to zinc
but how is one to know which type the washers are made of.

I hadn't considered that aspect; seeing the problem as the contact point
between the screw head and the square section recess (Osma gutter
brackets).

Obviously not an issue with round or pan heads.

BTW what is *yellow passivation*?

regards

--
Tim Lamb

In article ,
neverwas wrote:
Thanks to all.

I'll start by trying traditional brass roundhead again since I've the
scaffolding to facilitate pilot holes and steel screws to cut the
thread. (Past minor repairs have shown the wood is a bit on the hard
side by my lowly standards).

But I'll also order some s/s just in case: they'll be a good excuse for
me to play some more with this d-i-y thingie.

Assuming the guttering is so far up (by the scaffolding comment) I doubt
you'd be able to tell what heads are on the screws. So personally I'd just
use countersunk brass with no washers. At least you should be able to get
those out again if needed - unlike round heads. ;-)

My house is all plastic - but I did a repair on next doors which is the
original cast iron - and the brackets for those used CS brass. Dunno if
they're original of course.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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neverwas wrote:

I'm replacing PVC gutter on Victorian, wood fascia boards and was
planning to use stainless steel screws. But I can't find any stainless
roundhead wood screws from Screwfix which makes me think I've got it
wrong somewhere as it must surely be a common job. What is recommended
please?

Oh, and the fascia boards are well-attached and free from rot or major
splits but not thick so I was reckoning on 4x25mm and drilling pilot
holes. (There's scaffolding up for the replacement roof so for once I
won't feel the need for 3 hands.)


can one use phosphated plasterboard screws for this? The black coating
seems to be quite robust, and the thin shank means they go in easier &
no pilot hole needed. I assume the answer is no, but worth asking


NT