It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

Any recommendations for materials and supliers in around Bucks
(Aylesbury)?

--
Buzby
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot"

HI

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

I'm doing a similar thing out here in Ireland - the supplier poited me
at a special type of box section called 'Condri' - which is apparently a
fabric applied to the underside of the box section

http://www.tegral.ie/metalforming/p-ai-condri.asp

It adds about 30% to the cost of the sheeting - but if it saves
everything from getting dripped on then it's worth it...

I also have one of the prefabricated metal sheds (Yardmaster) -
which has conventional metal sheeting on it - I lined the inside of that
with expanded polystyrene to insulate and reduce the condensation..

Adrian

Adrian wrote:

HI

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

I'm doing a similar thing out here in Ireland - the supplier poited
me at a special type of box section called 'Condri' - which is
apparently a fabric applied to the underside of the box section

http://www.tegral.ie/metalforming/p-ai-condri.asp

It adds about 30% to the cost of the sheeting - but if it saves
everything from getting dripped on then it's worth it...

I also have one of the prefabricated metal sheds (Yardmaster) -
which has conventional metal sheeting on it - I lined the inside of
that with expanded polystyrene to insulate and reduce the
condensation..

Thanks for that - oddly enough I'm in the middle of putting up a
yardmaster shed - got it half built - roof done - sides up - then a
gale came and wrecked the sides - need to order some more bits and get
the roof on PDQ!!



--
Buzby
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot"

"Adrian" wrote in message
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HI

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

I'm doing a similar thing out here in Ireland - the supplier poited me at
a special type of box section called 'Condri' - which is apparently a
fabric applied to the underside of the box section

http://www.tegral.ie/metalforming/p-ai-condri.asp

It adds about 30% to the cost of the sheeting - but if it saves everything
from getting dripped on then it's worth it...

Yes, that's true - I can vouch for it's effectiveness. It's like a flock
coating on the underside. I have it on a steel profile sheet roof and have
never had a drip off it over two winters. When we fitted it we were
advised to strip the coating back about 100mm from the ends of the sheets at
the eaves so that any water dripping over the edge of the sheet wouldn't get
absorbed into the coating and creep back up.

You can read about it here
http://www.planwell.co.uk/roofing/products/permadri.php


Neil

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
HI

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

I'm doing a similar thing out here in Ireland - the supplier poited me at
a special type of box section called 'Condri' - which is apparently a
fabric applied to the underside of the box section

http://www.tegral.ie/metalforming/p-ai-condri.asp

It adds about 30% to the cost of the sheeting - but if it saves everything
from getting dripped on then it's worth it...

I have seen similar stuff.. it absorbs the condensation.
However there must be a limit to how much it can hold and will drip if it is
reached.
I don't know if it would last a few days with ice/snow on the roof and a
thaw started without dripping.
You could put a dehumidifier in if it started to drip so it dried out.

HI Buzby

Buzby wrote:
Adrian wrote:

HI

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?
I'm doing a similar thing out here in Ireland - the supplier poited
me at a special type of box section called 'Condri' - which is
apparently a fabric applied to the underside of the box section

http://www.tegral.ie/metalforming/p-ai-condri.asp

It adds about 30% to the cost of the sheeting - but if it saves
everything from getting dripped on then it's worth it...

I also have one of the prefabricated metal sheds (Yardmaster) -
which has conventional metal sheeting on it - I lined the inside of
that with expanded polystyrene to insulate and reduce the
condensation..

Thanks for that - oddly enough I'm in the middle of putting up a
yardmaster shed - got it half built - roof done - sides up - then a
gale came and wrecked the sides - need to order some more bits and get
the roof on PDQ!!


I'm not 100% impressed with my Yardmaster shed.
It's the big 'garage' one - absolute pain to assemble - had to go buy
extra screws (while the roof was half on & half off!) 'cos they didn't
supply enough of them - and there were numerous pressings without the
necessary holes punched.....

Replacing it is on my 'to do' list....
Having said that - it was cheap - but if I'd know how tacky is was going
to be I'd have saved my money and done the job properly... once....g

Adrian

HI Neil

Neil wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
HI

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?
I'm doing a similar thing out here in Ireland - the supplier poited me at
a special type of box section called 'Condri' - which is apparently a
fabric applied to the underside of the box section

http://www.tegral.ie/metalforming/p-ai-condri.asp

It adds about 30% to the cost of the sheeting - but if it saves everything
from getting dripped on then it's worth it...

Yes, that's true - I can vouch for it's effectiveness. It's like a flock
coating on the underside. I have it on a steel profile sheet roof and have
never had a drip off it over two winters. When we fitted it we were
advised to strip the coating back about 100mm from the ends of the sheets at
the eaves so that any water dripping over the edge of the sheet wouldn't get
absorbed into the coating and creep back up.

You can read about it here
http://www.planwell.co.uk/roofing/products/permadri.php



Ah - that's interesting - thanks.....
My project is just a little sort of 'lean-to' on the end of a 12' x 24'
timber shed / studio. It'll cover up the rather ugly/exposed well-head &
associated electrickery, and give me somewhere to store the heavyweight
market stall equipment & the ride-on mower - thus releasing some space
in the other (Yardmaster) tin shed so there's somewhere to work and
store 'stuff'. Ain't life complicated ? g

Did the magic coating just peel off ? Stanley knife across the sheeting
& then tug ? g

Thanks
Adrian

HI Dennia

dennis@home wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
...
HI

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

I'm doing a similar thing out here in Ireland - the supplier poited me
at a special type of box section called 'Condri' - which is apparently
a fabric applied to the underside of the box section

http://www.tegral.ie/metalforming/p-ai-condri.asp

It adds about 30% to the cost of the sheeting - but if it saves
everything from getting dripped on then it's worth it...

I have seen similar stuff.. it absorbs the condensation.
However there must be a limit to how much it can hold and will drip if
it is reached.
I don't know if it would last a few days with ice/snow on the roof and a
thaw started without dripping.
You could put a dehumidifier in if it started to drip so it dried out.


All possibilities, I guess.... but we don;t get snow out here.....

Part of the new structure will be over our drinking water wellhead (when
we've had a good dose of rain the water actually overflows up the
well-shaft of its own accord g) - but I was going to arrange some kind
of semi-sealed arrangement round there and add some air-vents in the
side of the lean-to to try and reduce the opportunities for condensation..

Adrian

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

Any recommendations for materials and supliers in around Bucks
(Aylesbury)?

I've done a couple of garages using insulated box section steel sheets,
and been very happy with the results. These are the things you see
being used for new builds on industrial estates and the like. Kingspan
is one well-known brand, but there are several more. They come in
various thicknesses of both steel and insulation, two or three outside
finish materials, and many colours. Some types clip together, but most
are fastened with Tek screws through the valleys. You might have
trouble managing 33ft sheets, but if it slopes the other way you're
laughing. End joints are OK, but need to be over a purlin and well
sealed. If the roof is reasonably accurate (no big hollows), you could
perhaps use a slightly lower pitch than the makers recommend, say down
to 3-4 degrees, particularly if you've only got side laps, and you seal
them. As with all roof work, correct detailing of verges and eaves is
vital.

Keep an eye on ebay for sheets, as there seem to be a number of
suppliers who pick up surplus sheets from big contracts, but beware of
"from" prices - colours and thicknesses may be mixed, and lengths may
not be what you're after.

Not the cheapest solution, but you'll have a warm and drip-free garage.



--
Kevin Poole
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"Adrian" wrote in message
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HI Neil

Neil wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
HI

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?
I'm doing a similar thing out here in Ireland - the supplier poited me
at a special type of box section called 'Condri' - which is apparently a
fabric applied to the underside of the box section

http://www.tegral.ie/metalforming/p-ai-condri.asp

It adds about 30% to the cost of the sheeting - but if it saves
everything from getting dripped on then it's worth it...

Yes, that's true - I can vouch for it's effectiveness. It's like a flock
coating on the underside. I have it on a steel profile sheet roof and
have never had a drip off it over two winters. When we fitted it we
were advised to strip the coating back about 100mm from the ends of the
sheets at the eaves so that any water dripping over the edge of the sheet
wouldn't get absorbed into the coating and creep back up.

You can read about it here
http://www.planwell.co.uk/roofing/products/permadri.php



Ah - that's interesting - thanks.....
My project is just a little sort of 'lean-to' on the end of a 12' x 24'
timber shed / studio. It'll cover up the rather ugly/exposed well-head &
associated electrickery, and give me somewhere to store the heavyweight
market stall equipment & the ride-on mower - thus releasing some space in
the other (Yardmaster) tin shed so there's somewhere to work and store
'stuff'. Ain't life complicated ? g

Did the magic coating just peel off ? Stanley knife across the sheeting &
then tug ? g

No it was stuck on very well. We had some gun wash (low quality cellulose
thinners) to hand so it was - score with Stanley knife, slap on some
thinners with a paintbrush, and it just slid off. I would definitely use
the same stuff again on a roof. We do get snow/frost here (north Scotland)
but snow soon slides of a tin roof with any pitch and as soon as the sun
gets to the frost it melts. As I say, I've never seen any drips of damp
patches.

Neil

On 14 Jan, 10:23, "Buzby" wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

Any recommendations for materials and supliers in around Bucks
(Aylesbury)?

--
Buzby
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot"

Just to throw in another option, I used Onduline for a shed roof
recently and have been impressed. I laid it over OSB board. I was
going to felt but the cost for Onduline was no greater than the
materials for three layers of felt and the installation effort was
minimal in comparison.

Rob

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

Any recommendations for materials and supliers in around Bucks
(Aylesbury)?

Worth a look for all sorts of roofing stuff
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...c%26a+plastics


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:

Buzby wrote:
It's new roof time for ther garage - the concrete sheets have had it
and it's leaking like a sieve.

It's a gently sloping roof approx 33 x 15 foot - I was thinking
possibly of a box section metal roofing for this but apparently they
'sweat' and drip?

Any recommendations for materials and supliers in around Bucks
(Aylesbury)?

Worth a look for all sorts of roofing stuff
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...oq=C&A&hl=en-G
B&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GFRG_en-GBGB210GB210&q=c%26a+plastics

Thanks - just what I was after - also realistic delivery charges!

--
Buzby
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot"