On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:32:59 +0100, Rod wrote:

Yuk, not even rinsed so it goes all manky in the bin?

If it's collected frequently enough, is the food left on a can any worse
than the other stuff that ends up in the bin?

Well nothing goes in our landfill bin that will rot, *anything* that will
rot goes to the composter out back. Tins, paper and glass end up in the
green box for the council recycling truck. Plastic bottles and films are
taken to a recycling bank when we go shopping, same with card and juice
cartons.

There is very little going into our landfill bin most is metalised plastic
films as they can't be recycled and other household waste like the hoover
contents. If we managed to get 1/2 a bag full in a week we have thrown a
lot of stuff out...

What? Can't you put the (metal) lid in with the (same metal) tin for
recycling?

Hands up! I should obviously have phrased that to be "separately to
other (non-can) rubbish)".

B-)

I have never made any effort to squash cans because the collecting box
we have is ample for the containers we collect without doing so.

The green box lives outside and 2l ice cream tubs sit nicely in an old
vegetable trolly thing for tins, small hard plastic bits (caps, ring pulls
etc) and foil.

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Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:32:59 +0100, Rod wrote:

Yuk, not even rinsed so it goes all manky in the bin?
If it's collected frequently enough, is the food left on a can any worse
than the other stuff that ends up in the bin?

Well nothing goes in our landfill bin that will rot, *anything* that will
rot goes to the composter out back. Tins, paper and glass end up in the
green box for the council recycling truck. Plastic bottles and films are
taken to a recycling bank when we go shopping, same with card and juice
cartons.

There is very little going into our landfill bin most is metalised plastic
films as they can't be recycled and other household waste like the hoover
contents. If we managed to get 1/2 a bag full in a week we have thrown a
lot of stuff out...

What? Can't you put the (metal) lid in with the (same metal) tin for
recycling?
Hands up! I should obviously have phrased that to be "separately to
other (non-can) rubbish)".

B-)

I have never made any effort to squash cans because the collecting box
we have is ample for the containers we collect without doing so.

The green box lives outside and 2l ice cream tubs sit nicely in an old
vegetable trolly thing for tins, small hard plastic bits (caps, ring pulls
etc) and foil.


Understood about "nothing goes in our landfill bin that will rot", my
reference to not washing cans out was really prior to the recycling systems.

I guess it is individual household arrangements. We find it easier to
take stuff out more or less as we go.

(Really helpful these council systems - our cans/plastics container is
black, green is for paper/card! Isn't there a BS colour coding?)

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
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There is very little going into our landfill bin most is metalised plastic
films as they can't be recycled and other household waste like the hoover
contents.

Vacuum waste usually goes on the compost heap, maybe you don't have wool
carpets?

"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2008-09-15, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:04:35 +0100, Rod wrote:

Which is much more likely nowadays. Instead of touching the cad and lid
just once (to pour out the contents and drop the empty in the bin),

Yuk, not even rinsed so it goes all manky in the bin?

You waste drinking water on rinsing your rubbish? Why?

Because you get pests if you drop unwashed tins in the recycling box.

On 16 Sep 2008 11:22:37 GMT, Huge wrote:

Yuk, not even rinsed so it goes all manky in the bin?

You waste drinking water on rinsing your rubbish? Why?

I wouldn't like to drink the water I use to rinse cans etc, it's just been
used to do the washing up and is about to tipped down the drain...

Reason? So you don't get a house full of fruit flys or 'orrible stench of
rotting food?

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Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:30:25 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

Vacuum waste usually goes on the compost heap, maybe you don't have wool
carpets?

Don't know what they are, they came with the house. More to the point most
of the contents of the hover wouldn't make it into the composter, the wind
would grab 'em and distribute them over me and the fells. As it is I have
to pick a calm day to empty the thing or you end up covered in your own,
and the rest of the families, skin again...

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Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:49:51 +0100, Rod wrote:

I guess it is individual household arrangements. We find it easier to
take stuff out more or less as we go.

If we did that it wouldn't stay there, the wind would have it away. The
green box even with a brick in it has been known to take a walk down the
road and thats starting from one of the most sheltered spots on the lee
side. There is nothing loose lying around up here, loose stuff simply
doesn't stay put.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Bruce wrote:

(Andrew Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
Bruce writes:
I think it probably has. The "lift off" style of can opener which
cuts the side of the can under the rim with a circular blade seems
better suited than a traditional opener with a fixed blade and a hand
driven cog wheel.

I have both these types, however my favourite can opener is one that
resembles the lift off type in form, but has a safety cutter that cuts
through the rim itself. It only ever takes one go to open the can,
and the top is easily lifted off leaving no sharp edges at all.

When I was looking for an opener suitable for a frail person,
I though one of these looked ideal. It wasn't though. Removing
the upper rim loses the upper rigidity of the can, and she
couldn't then pick up the can without squashing it, resulting
in spill over and possible dropping.


Perhaps I wasn't clear, because it doesn't take off the rim. It cuts
*through* the rim. Slightly less than half of the rim goes with the
lid, leaving slightly more than half of it in place on the can. There
is therefore no significant loss of rigidity.

I think the one you bought was probably a "lift off" type, which makes
a cut below the rim and leaves an unsupported edge. I have a couple
of those, but I don't like them because they tend to encourage
spilling some of the can's contents through making a cut lower down.


At last (!) I have found one like mine on eBay:

http://tinyurl.com/4tz5px
or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=120298863766

I recommend it very highly.

Bruce wrote:
Bruce wrote:

(Andrew Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
Bruce writes:
I think it probably has. The "lift off" style of can opener which
cuts the side of the can under the rim with a circular blade seems
better suited than a traditional opener with a fixed blade and a hand
driven cog wheel.

I have both these types, however my favourite can opener is one that
resembles the lift off type in form, but has a safety cutter that cuts
through the rim itself. It only ever takes one go to open the can,
and the top is easily lifted off leaving no sharp edges at all.
When I was looking for an opener suitable for a frail person,
I though one of these looked ideal. It wasn't though. Removing
the upper rim loses the upper rigidity of the can, and she
couldn't then pick up the can without squashing it, resulting
in spill over and possible dropping.

Perhaps I wasn't clear, because it doesn't take off the rim. It cuts
*through* the rim. Slightly less than half of the rim goes with the
lid, leaving slightly more than half of it in place on the can. There
is therefore no significant loss of rigidity.

I think the one you bought was probably a "lift off" type, which makes
a cut below the rim and leaves an unsupported edge. I have a couple
of those, but I don't like them because they tend to encourage
spilling some of the can's contents through making a cut lower down.


At last (!) I have found one like mine on eBay:

http://tinyurl.com/4tz5px
or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=120298863766

I recommend it very highly.


Always found Kuhn Rikon stuff to be pretty well made.

Due to this thread, I decided to test my can opener (branded Culinare)
by opening the small end of a corned beef can. The very small radius
corners are a real challenge. Worked perfectly. Close examination of the
cut showed, exactly as reported by Bruce, that the cut leaves a bit of
rim on the main can and a bit on the removed lid.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Rod wrote:
Bruce wrote:
At last (!) I have found one like mine on eBay:

http://tinyurl.com/4tz5px
or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=120298863766

I recommend it very highly.


Always found Kuhn Rikon stuff to be pretty well made.

Due to this thread, I decided to test my can opener (branded Culinare)
by opening the small end of a corned beef can. The very small radius
corners are a real challenge. Worked perfectly. Close examination of the
cut showed, exactly as reported by Bruce, that the cut leaves a bit of
rim on the main can and a bit on the removed lid.


Thanks Rod.

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:49:47 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Rod
wrote:

Bruce wrote:
Bruce wrote:


Due to this thread, I decided to test my can opener (branded Culinare)
by opening the small end of a corned beef can. The very small radius
corners are a real challenge. Worked perfectly. Close examination of the
cut showed, exactly as reported by Bruce, that the cut leaves a bit of
rim on the main can and a bit on the removed lid.

Is it this one?
http://www.culinare.com/products/det...y_ID=1&index=6

Phil

Phil Addison wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:49:47 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Rod
wrote:

Bruce wrote:
Bruce wrote:

Due to this thread, I decided to test my can opener (branded Culinare)
by opening the small end of a corned beef can. The very small radius
corners are a real challenge. Worked perfectly. Close examination of the
cut showed, exactly as reported by Bruce, that the cut leaves a bit of
rim on the main can and a bit on the removed lid.

Is it this one?
http://www.culinare.com/products/det...y_ID=1&index=6

Phil

Yes, that looks to be the one we have got.

Generally works very well. Just occasionally I have to cut round a bit
of an overlap - i.e. full circle plus a quarter. It clamps onto the can
well.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org